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Annabel Ascher's avatar

This is not at all like 1-6. It is unruly, violent, and wrongheaded, but these twerps are not trying to overturn an election. They are not trying to hang the vice president and kill congressional democrats. They are trying and generally failing to push their universities around and bully them over Israel.

The protests are also not at all like ours in the 1960s and early 70s. We were protesting a war that our country was actively engaged in. It was killing our brothers, lovers, and husbands. And over something that was no real threat to our country. The Vietcong were not chanting "death to America" and trying to export communism, no matter what McNamara. And in the end we WON--because we had skin in the game. Too many American families were impacted.

In contrast--these demonstrations cherry pick the outrage, and the fact that it is Gaza they care about and Israel they demonize speaks volumes in a world full of potential grievances. It is NOT OUR WAR. No matter what any particular American believes, we have nothing with any teeth to say about it. And terrorizing American Jews is blatant antisemitism. No matter what their excuse might be.

But we must also see who benefits. The Vietnamese had no intention of exporting communism to the United States. But the :Global Infatida" crowd means it when they chant "Death to America". And now they are teaching our "best and brightest" to chant it too, against their own country, as they sit in privilege at our finest institutions of higher learning. The fact that it is a cause celebre excuses neither the ignorance nor the bad behavior.

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Nancy Kimberlin's avatar

It may not be OUR WAR but it is OUR taxes that are providing Israel with the weapons to destroy Gaza.

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Heather Kirk's avatar

But, Anabel, we are supplying the weapons being used to bomb the Palestinians.

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Sabine Hahn's avatar

I take it you haven't listened to a single student to really find out what they ask for, have you?

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Paula Dufour's avatar

War anywhere draws energy and resources away from solving important problems humans face. Do you want a world where violence is used to obtain goals rather than finding solutions that though not optimal are at least workable? Small nongovernmental groups are at a distinct disadvantage when dealing with a sovereign nation, even a small one.

The issues we face were understood long ago. First it gave birth to the League of Nations which failed because of it's structure. Then came the United Nations. It has failed because of it's structure. The less powerful were to be protected by the Charter which the powerful also had to sign. But one flaw was the powerful were busy misleading the powerless. A signature didn't carry weight between a sovereign nation's internal political changes.

Ukraine has been modern example of that failure. Now, the stateless Palestinians are too. It is globalism versus isolationism as well. The Pacific and Atlantic Oceans no longer provide protection from nation state attacks or even business and tourist activities spreading deadly disease. Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) has been recognized as a mental illness.

We need to honor our commitments to the world and understand that our success depends on everyone's efforts. We are one family, one earth, and one future.

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Sabine Hahn's avatar

Sorry to say, but to a large degree the UN fails because of the US vetoes.

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Paula Dufour's avatar

I'm not referring to just this conflict. The permanent members of the Security Council bear responsibility both for stabilizing and unfortunately destabilizing the member nations.

Also, there is no obligation to provide citizens from member countries to implement the resolutions of the UN removing the teeth from any resolution. What nation(s) would go into Gaza and protect Palestinians from the military decisions of Hamas or Israel? Who would enforce the ceasefire? Who would implement the decisions or the IRC and the ICC? Who would be the independent investigator? Who would protect the journalist and aid workers? Who would police the Black Market,?

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