To Catch a Thief; a liar and bully; a rapist, misogynist, racist, antisemite, and cruel beyond measure; children in cages; incompetent and ignorant; to catch the insurrectionist ex-president who paid a porn star with hush money; to actually indict him, the real-estate hustler, former president, Donald J. Trump and the porn star, Stormy D…
To Catch a Thief; a liar and bully; a rapist, misogynist, racist, antisemite, and cruel beyond measure; children in cages; incompetent and ignorant; to catch the insurrectionist ex-president who paid a porn star with hush money; to actually indict him, the real-estate hustler, former president, Donald J. Trump and the porn star, Stormy Daniels, now that’s a story!
“The weaponization of the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head,” DeSantis said. “The [billionaire donor George] Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney [Alvin Bragg] has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal misconduct. Yet, now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent.”
In his statement Thursday, DeSantis said the state would “not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.”
The consequences of this indictment not only for Trump but, most importantly, for the US. The MAGA movement is out to destroy the state, and the Republican Party is in its hands. What of the country that didn’t catch the lying, thief for fifty years, whose system and voters elected him as President? Is the US also in MAGA’s hands or will Americans wakeup and the so-called ‘Rule of Law’ fulfil its mission and save our so-called Democracy?
‘The sinister forces trying to kill America have done everything they can to stop me, to silence you, and to turn this nation into a socialist dumping ground for criminals, junkies, Marxists, thugs, radicals, and dangerous refugees that no other country wants. No other country wants them. If those opposing us succeed, our once beautiful U.S.A. will be a failed country that no one will even recognize. A lawless, open borders, crime-ridden, filthy, communist nightmare. That’s what it’s going and that’s where it’s going. . . . That’s why I’m standing before you, because we are going to finish what we started. We started something that was a miracle. We’re going to complete the mission. We’re going to see this battle through to ultimate victory.’
“I think the unprecedented indictment of a former president of the United States on a campaign finance issue is an outrage,” Pence said Thursday night in an interview on CNN. “This will only further serve to divide our country.”
I don't want to use an expletive; how about calling him a 'weirdo'? What do you think, Pat?
Outrage or outage? More like an outing. Except that in NYC everybody knew.
More like the end of the very, very long fuse to an almost unending chain reaction, indictment upon indictment upon indictment.
Time to read or reread Henry Fielding's remarkable novel, The Life and Death of Jonathan Wild the Great, a biography of London's erstwhile crime boss, the greatest criminal of the age AND a deadly satire of England's 18th century Bibi Netanyahu, Robert Walpole.
Note that Fielding was not only a great novelist and the dominant playwright of his age but London's chief magistrate and the founder of London's first police force, the Bow Street Runners.
To end on a cautionary note, Fielding's deadly satires failed to unseat Walpole, one of history's grandmasters of political corruption... Read:
Pence is a sorry excuse for a person with no backbone. Trump wanted to have him hung and and he’s trying to talk around it.
This guy will never get two votes in a primary if he runs for president.
Why is everybody still afraid to stand up to trump? They all hate him and if they had stuck together he would have been done for a long time ago.! Amen!
Exactly!! They ARE afraid to stand up to him. Whether they like him or not is irrelevant to them. He's the disruption they crave. And we can't ever lose track of that.
Among Trump supporters, paying off a prostitute is not, likely, viewed as weird. In fact, it probably makes him look good to them. Hey, he is a regular guy.
PS 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)
Why did you call her a prostitute? Do you know that for a fact?
Well, just think about it...between Stormy and the former Playboy Bunny, tfg paid $280k for a couple of brief rolls in the hay. The fact that payment was delayed and included a post-hoc nondisclosure clause doesn't change the fact that when the money changed hands, those two became perhaps the highest paid hookers in modern history and he became one of the most notorious johns in recent memory.
Nathan, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the case - this payoff money wasn’t for the sex, which seems to be kind of like exciting sordid click-bait for some people. The money was to keep the women from selling their stories during the campaign; i.e., it was hush money. That doesn’t make either woman one of the highest paid “hookers” in modern history, or a “hooker” at all. Porn stars are just that: porn stars, not prostitutes. I’m not saying they might not also take money for sex; they might, but we should not make those kind of assumptions. It’s misogynistic to do so. I think that’s the point Fern is trying to make, although I don’t want to put words into her mouth.
Stormy accepted money for staying silent about her affair with tRump, which deprived the voting public of needed information a few days before the election. That's a crime in my book. She was complicit in the hush money payment and should be on trial as well. should be on trial as well.
'Hooker' is a word for prostitute. I have not read anywhere, except written here by a couple of uninformed males, that they were or are prostitutes. You may not care to read my post just before yours, so I am copying it for your edification: 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)
My comment was about Pence not about 'Trump supporters'. Were they threatened with death during the 1/6 attack on The Capitol? Pence was VP under Trump. Have you paid attention to Pence's behavior and public statements?
Jeeze Fern you are a formidable foe. And Pencey is still playing coy boy, like a baby kangaroo playing peekaboo. Now you see me now you don’t. I’m trying here to contain myself. No I’m not. I haven’t crashed into the “Old Man of the See” yet, but looking forward to adding his insight to yours. Between Peter and you it’s a feast fest. Like Odysseus I want to chain myself to the mast and hear the Siren’s song.
One thing sticks in my mind concerning this indictment: We need to remember (and continually reiterate) that Donald Trump is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers. Of course the obvious irony of this pronouncement of Innocence is the unabashed pronouncement of the “obvious” GUILT of DA Bragg, George Soros, the Demonic Left, etc.
Paul, I agree. That’s the bedrock of our judicial system, that one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I’m feeling as gleeful as everyone else! But Trump is entitled to the same protections under law as everyone else. I fervently hope he is also subject to the same penalties as everyone else, when he breaks the law and it’s proven in court that he has done so. Without that, I think we are lost.
Exactly, KR. I am willing to give Trump a fair trial. (That kinda takes away that whole “weaponization” argument that Trump Nation is promoting.) The more Patriotic we can be about our judicial system the more we can demonstrate to Trump Nation how REAL Patriots behave in such circumstances.
DJT sure didn’t care about the innocence of the Central Park Five. His indictment is necessary for the rule of law to prevail-even if he’s not convicted.
No, Trump did not care about the innocence of the Central Park Five. I DO NOT WANT to be like Trump. Currently, Trump & Trump Nation views their “opposition” as GUILTY until “proven” INNOCENT. I REFUSE to be like Trump & Trump Nation.
Paul, Trump's innocence or guilt of civil and criminal charges will be determined in a court of law, not by the opinion of pundits and members of the public.
To Catch a Thief; a liar and bully; a rapist, misogynist, racist, antisemite, and cruel beyond measure; children in cages; incompetent and ignorant; to catch the insurrectionist ex-president who paid a porn star with hush money; to actually indict him, the real-estate hustler, former president, Donald J. Trump and the porn star, Stormy Daniels, now that’s a story!
“The weaponization of the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head,” DeSantis said. “The [billionaire donor George] Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney [Alvin Bragg] has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal misconduct. Yet, now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent.”
In his statement Thursday, DeSantis said the state would “not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.”
The consequences of this indictment not only for Trump but, most importantly, for the US. The MAGA movement is out to destroy the state, and the Republican Party is in its hands. What of the country that didn’t catch the lying, thief for fifty years, whose system and voters elected him as President? Is the US also in MAGA’s hands or will Americans wakeup and the so-called ‘Rule of Law’ fulfil its mission and save our so-called Democracy?
‘The sinister forces trying to kill America have done everything they can to stop me, to silence you, and to turn this nation into a socialist dumping ground for criminals, junkies, Marxists, thugs, radicals, and dangerous refugees that no other country wants. No other country wants them. If those opposing us succeed, our once beautiful U.S.A. will be a failed country that no one will even recognize. A lawless, open borders, crime-ridden, filthy, communist nightmare. That’s what it’s going and that’s where it’s going. . . . That’s why I’m standing before you, because we are going to finish what we started. We started something that was a miracle. We’re going to complete the mission. We’re going to see this battle through to ultimate victory.’
___Donald J. Trump
Thank you Fern. His own words.
Now, how about Pence's verdict:
“I think the unprecedented indictment of a former president of the United States on a campaign finance issue is an outrage,” Pence said Thursday night in an interview on CNN. “This will only further serve to divide our country.”
I don't want to use an expletive; how about calling him a 'weirdo'? What do you think, Pat?
Outrage or outage? More like an outing. Except that in NYC everybody knew.
More like the end of the very, very long fuse to an almost unending chain reaction, indictment upon indictment upon indictment.
Time to read or reread Henry Fielding's remarkable novel, The Life and Death of Jonathan Wild the Great, a biography of London's erstwhile crime boss, the greatest criminal of the age AND a deadly satire of England's 18th century Bibi Netanyahu, Robert Walpole.
Note that Fielding was not only a great novelist and the dominant playwright of his age but London's chief magistrate and the founder of London's first police force, the Bow Street Runners.
To end on a cautionary note, Fielding's deadly satires failed to unseat Walpole, one of history's grandmasters of political corruption... Read:
https://www.britainexpress.com/History/Walpole-Administration.htm
Doesn't it somehow sound so very familiar?
And you thought this kind of thing was "as American as Apple Pie"...
Peter, you are keeping me up. Have you slept?
Does it really make any difference whether we wake or we sleep?
Same nightmares, same ogres and hobgoblins.
Same illusions and delusions.
Only solution: Be of good cheer -- and keep on pulling back those stage curtains...
So, this is what your dreams are like!
Pence is a sorry excuse for a person with no backbone. Trump wanted to have him hung and and he’s trying to talk around it.
This guy will never get two votes in a primary if he runs for president.
Why is everybody still afraid to stand up to trump? They all hate him and if they had stuck together he would have been done for a long time ago.! Amen!
Exactly!! They ARE afraid to stand up to him. Whether they like him or not is irrelevant to them. He's the disruption they crave. And we can't ever lose track of that.
Angelica,
Sorry, but your last word ruined an otherwise good comment for me. So divisive.
Fern,
Among Trump supporters, paying off a prostitute is not, likely, viewed as weird. In fact, it probably makes him look good to them. Hey, he is a regular guy.
Mike S,
PS 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)
Why did you call her a prostitute? Do you know that for a fact?
Well, just think about it...between Stormy and the former Playboy Bunny, tfg paid $280k for a couple of brief rolls in the hay. The fact that payment was delayed and included a post-hoc nondisclosure clause doesn't change the fact that when the money changed hands, those two became perhaps the highest paid hookers in modern history and he became one of the most notorious johns in recent memory.
Nathan, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the case - this payoff money wasn’t for the sex, which seems to be kind of like exciting sordid click-bait for some people. The money was to keep the women from selling their stories during the campaign; i.e., it was hush money. That doesn’t make either woman one of the highest paid “hookers” in modern history, or a “hooker” at all. Porn stars are just that: porn stars, not prostitutes. I’m not saying they might not also take money for sex; they might, but we should not make those kind of assumptions. It’s misogynistic to do so. I think that’s the point Fern is trying to make, although I don’t want to put words into her mouth.
Stormy accepted money for staying silent about her affair with tRump, which deprived the voting public of needed information a few days before the election. That's a crime in my book. She was complicit in the hush money payment and should be on trial as well. should be on trial as well.
'Hooker' is a word for prostitute. I have not read anywhere, except written here by a couple of uninformed males, that they were or are prostitutes. You may not care to read my post just before yours, so I am copying it for your edification: 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)
Mike S,
My comment was about Pence not about 'Trump supporters'. Were they threatened with death during the 1/6 attack on The Capitol? Pence was VP under Trump. Have you paid attention to Pence's behavior and public statements?
Jeeze Fern you are a formidable foe. And Pencey is still playing coy boy, like a baby kangaroo playing peekaboo. Now you see me now you don’t. I’m trying here to contain myself. No I’m not. I haven’t crashed into the “Old Man of the See” yet, but looking forward to adding his insight to yours. Between Peter and you it’s a feast fest. Like Odysseus I want to chain myself to the mast and hear the Siren’s song.
Perfectly put, Pat.
We have come to that turning point in the Snow White tale when the wicked queen looks into her mirror, puts her daily question,
"Mirror, mirror on the wall,
Who is the fairest of them all?"
And gets the "wrong" answer.
*
A dangerous moment for Snow White. A dangerous moment for America. A dangerous moment for the world.
40% of Americans still love him more than they love their own families. And, getting charged for paying off a porn star won't change that.
May he and his ilk be seen for what they are, and the US of A survive their traitorous blather and actions. Ye hear that MSM
Jeri,
Unfortunately MSM can't hear you. It only hears profits. It doesn't lead. It only follows huge movements and 💲.
So many racist code words in his remarks.
Well done, Fern! Thank you.
One thing sticks in my mind concerning this indictment: We need to remember (and continually reiterate) that Donald Trump is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers. Of course the obvious irony of this pronouncement of Innocence is the unabashed pronouncement of the “obvious” GUILT of DA Bragg, George Soros, the Demonic Left, etc.
Paul, I agree. That’s the bedrock of our judicial system, that one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I’m feeling as gleeful as everyone else! But Trump is entitled to the same protections under law as everyone else. I fervently hope he is also subject to the same penalties as everyone else, when he breaks the law and it’s proven in court that he has done so. Without that, I think we are lost.
Exactly, KR. I am willing to give Trump a fair trial. (That kinda takes away that whole “weaponization” argument that Trump Nation is promoting.) The more Patriotic we can be about our judicial system the more we can demonstrate to Trump Nation how REAL Patriots behave in such circumstances.
DJT sure didn’t care about the innocence of the Central Park Five. His indictment is necessary for the rule of law to prevail-even if he’s not convicted.
No, Trump did not care about the innocence of the Central Park Five. I DO NOT WANT to be like Trump. Currently, Trump & Trump Nation views their “opposition” as GUILTY until “proven” INNOCENT. I REFUSE to be like Trump & Trump Nation.
I’m not suggesting that anyone be like Trump-just pointing out Trump’s ideas about guilt and innocence.
WHAT! What are you talking about? Have you had too many pancakes; is it the maple syrup or that your right-wing is out of control?
Fern, has it already been determined that Trump is GUILTY?
Paul, Trump's innocence or guilt of civil and criminal charges will be determined in a court of law, not by the opinion of pundits and members of the public.
Self-indicted?
Countless times, it seems...
Best Teflon coating that money can buy.
Roy Cohn would have loved his student's skills at twisting reality.
Thank you Fern, for an excellent illustration of how DeSantis is a student of Trump.