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Pat Cole's avatar

Thank you Fern. His own words.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Now, how about Pence's verdict:

“I think the unprecedented indictment of a former president of the United States on a campaign finance issue is an outrage,” Pence said Thursday night in an interview on CNN. “This will only further serve to divide our country.”

I don't want to use an expletive; how about calling him a 'weirdo'? What do you think, Pat?

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Outrage or outage? More like an outing. Except that in NYC everybody knew.

More like the end of the very, very long fuse to an almost unending chain reaction, indictment upon indictment upon indictment.

Time to read or reread Henry Fielding's remarkable novel, The Life and Death of Jonathan Wild the Great, a biography of London's erstwhile crime boss, the greatest criminal of the age AND a deadly satire of England's 18th century Bibi Netanyahu, Robert Walpole.

Note that Fielding was not only a great novelist and the dominant playwright of his age but London's chief magistrate and the founder of London's first police force, the Bow Street Runners.

To end on a cautionary note, Fielding's deadly satires failed to unseat Walpole, one of history's grandmasters of political corruption... Read:

https://www.britainexpress.com/History/Walpole-Administration.htm

Doesn't it somehow sound so very familiar?

And you thought this kind of thing was "as American as Apple Pie"...

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Peter, you are keeping me up. Have you slept?

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Does it really make any difference whether we wake or we sleep?

Same nightmares, same ogres and hobgoblins.

Same illusions and delusions.

Only solution: Be of good cheer -- and keep on pulling back those stage curtains...

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

So, this is what your dreams are like!

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Angelica's avatar

Pence is a sorry excuse for a person with no backbone. Trump wanted to have him hung and and he’s trying to talk around it.

This guy will never get two votes in a primary if he runs for president.

Why is everybody still afraid to stand up to trump? They all hate him and if they had stuck together he would have been done for a long time ago.! Amen!

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Suz-an's avatar

Exactly!! They ARE afraid to stand up to him. Whether they like him or not is irrelevant to them. He's the disruption they crave. And we can't ever lose track of that.

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Justin Sayn's avatar

Angelica,

Sorry, but your last word ruined an otherwise good comment for me. So divisive.

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Mike S's avatar

Fern,

Among Trump supporters, paying off a prostitute is not, likely, viewed as weird. In fact, it probably makes him look good to them. Hey, he is a regular guy.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Mike S,

PS 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)

Why did you call her a prostitute? Do you know that for a fact?

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Just Sayin''s avatar

Well, just think about it...between Stormy and the former Playboy Bunny, tfg paid $280k for a couple of brief rolls in the hay. The fact that payment was delayed and included a post-hoc nondisclosure clause doesn't change the fact that when the money changed hands, those two became perhaps the highest paid hookers in modern history and he became one of the most notorious johns in recent memory.

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KR (OH)'s avatar

Nathan, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the case - this payoff money wasn’t for the sex, which seems to be kind of like exciting sordid click-bait for some people. The money was to keep the women from selling their stories during the campaign; i.e., it was hush money. That doesn’t make either woman one of the highest paid “hookers” in modern history, or a “hooker” at all. Porn stars are just that: porn stars, not prostitutes. I’m not saying they might not also take money for sex; they might, but we should not make those kind of assumptions. It’s misogynistic to do so. I think that’s the point Fern is trying to make, although I don’t want to put words into her mouth.

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Eadie Sharron's avatar

Stormy accepted money for staying silent about her affair with tRump, which deprived the voting public of needed information a few days before the election. That's a crime in my book. She was complicit in the hush money payment and should be on trial as well. should be on trial as well.

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

'Hooker' is a word for prostitute. I have not read anywhere, except written here by a couple of uninformed males, that they were or are prostitutes. You may not care to read my post just before yours, so I am copying it for your edification: 'Stephanie Gregory Clifford (born Stephanie A. Gregory; March 17, 1979), known professionally as Stormy Daniels,[7][8] is an American pornographic film actress and director[9][10] and former stripper. She has won many industry awards and is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame.' (Wikipedia)

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FERN MCBRIDE (NYC)'s avatar

Mike S,

My comment was about Pence not about 'Trump supporters'. Were they threatened with death during the 1/6 attack on The Capitol? Pence was VP under Trump. Have you paid attention to Pence's behavior and public statements?

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Pat Cole's avatar

Jeeze Fern you are a formidable foe. And Pencey is still playing coy boy, like a baby kangaroo playing peekaboo. Now you see me now you don’t. I’m trying here to contain myself. No I’m not. I haven’t crashed into the “Old Man of the See” yet, but looking forward to adding his insight to yours. Between Peter and you it’s a feast fest. Like Odysseus I want to chain myself to the mast and hear the Siren’s song.

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Perfectly put, Pat.

We have come to that turning point in the Snow White tale when the wicked queen looks into her mirror, puts her daily question,

"Mirror, mirror on the wall,

Who is the fairest of them all?"

And gets the "wrong" answer.

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A dangerous moment for Snow White. A dangerous moment for America. A dangerous moment for the world.

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Mike S's avatar

40% of Americans still love him more than they love their own families. And, getting charged for paying off a porn star won't change that.

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