46 Comments
User's avatar
⭠ Return to thread
Andrea Haynes's avatar

Much was accomplished in 1960s. I was there.

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

First protest 1961, at age 6, with Albert Bigelow, John Lewis's Freedom Rider partner. Bert and Sylvia helped found the Quaker meeting that raised me. It's time to stand on the shoulders of these giants.

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

I can’t really see any cops stopping me. They will be busy with my donation of Krispy creams to them. The krispy cream rebellion!

Expand full comment
Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

And to repeat also from years gone by....Federal government "nationalizes the National Guard" to protect piza and water suppliers....and polling stations...from interference.

Expand full comment
Roland (CA->WA)'s avatar

ted that is wicked funny. krispy kreme. doughnuts for the cops. brilliant.

Expand full comment
MaryPat's avatar

May have to lobby Krispy Kreme first to stop their funding of republican party...

Expand full comment
MaryPat's avatar

Love it!!

Expand full comment
Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I’m impressed! My first was in 1969 in DC protesting the Vietnam War. Seems have been protesting ever since.

Expand full comment
Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

Somewhere along the road we seem to have lost the idea of freedom that we had then when we were going to change the world. Our generation has built the mess that the world is in despite our youthful protestation.

Expand full comment
Herb Klinker (FL and Umbria)'s avatar

I'm reading "Caste" by Isabel Wilkerson. In Chapter 11 she talks about the rising mortality rates of White American, middle-aged, working-class males. Almost half a million excess deaths from 1998 to 2013. She refers them as "Deaths of Despair".

Expand full comment
Christy's avatar

Chances are pretty good that the authoritarian bully mindset that is the hallmark of racism has consequences for the children raised in such homes. Generally minds that are attracted to a culture that feeds on lies/denial/deception have been bathed in that environment in their formative years. Trauma in childhood can lead to addiction and addiction creates more traumatized children. Vicious cycle. Hillary Clinton understood this well and it's why the patriarchy did everything in their power to keep her out of power. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.html

Expand full comment
Christy's avatar

there's a lot there in the cdc link I posted but, for this conversation I was attempting to show the relationship of adverse childhood experiences to adult poor health. "ACEs can have lasting, negative effects on health, well-being, and opportunity. These experiences can increase the risks of injury, sexually transmitted infections, maternal and child health problems, teen pregnancy, involvement in sex trafficking, and a wide range of chronic diseases and leading causes of death such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and suicide."

https://www.ajpmonline.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0749-3797%2898%2900017-8

Expand full comment
Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

Herb, it reminds me of conversations that i had with a SF businessman while i was living In DC. He told me that he has to come for business but spends as little time as possible along the East Coast as "people seem so unhealthy" .

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

Is this about suicides?

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

Marlene, thank u. Your protest might have saved my dad and uncles lives.

Expand full comment
Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I hope so but funny thing is I ended up marrying a Vietnam Vet 45 years ago. He never trusted the government then and still doesn’t to this day.

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

Life’s a doughnut sometimes.

Expand full comment
Julie's avatar

I thank you as well for your protest. My husband got his draft card with the number 78 six months before they ended the draft. He did not have to go to Viet Nam thank God. I feel that the protests and work we do today will also benefit future generations. So again, thank you!

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

You all did a great job levitating the Pentagon.

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

How rough was that then? Is today worse? What did you think of Robert Kennedy them?

Expand full comment
Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Today is worse because I really never felt unsafe in those years. I was a proud hippie and held idealistic views. Burning my bra was quite “uplifting”. :) I loved RFK. I thought he was quite strategic and thoughtful. Even more so than his brother. He would’ve made a great president, in my opinion.

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

RFK would have been an outstanding president, maybe one of the greatest.

Expand full comment
Mitzi's avatar

Uplifting 😂

Expand full comment
Grace Kennedy's avatar

And Kent State came later.

Expand full comment
MLMinET's avatar

I remember Kent State well. I was a young college student next door in Indiana

Expand full comment
Ted's avatar

I have a friend older than me who was there. I think he is still traumatized.

Expand full comment
Maggie's avatar

I have a friend who is younger than me who was there.

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

Earlham College 1978

Expand full comment
Susan's avatar

I had hope we could make a difference. I never worried there would be AK 47 ‘s shooting us down. Robert Kennedy was a hero in my eyes.

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

The story's not over yet, Susan. There is a surprise ending.

Expand full comment
Pensa_VT's avatar

I am just on the bottom edge of the boomer gen. My mom would not take me with her to protests, but she did take me to a Love In at a park in Los Angeles. My, my, I learned a lot there for a tweenager!

Expand full comment
Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

Things the so riteous and the holier than thou don't want you to learn in school, no doubt......practical demonstrations are excellent pedagogy

Expand full comment
Pensa_VT's avatar

Yes-- quite a pedagogy! Funny that my current career often involves helping young people in who are exploring drugs, sex, hooking up, sexting, porn and now about 30+ STDs. What a set up that early experience provided me— but kids today deal with soooo much more than in the 60's. They are not allowed to come to my sessions stoned and are shocked when I can smell pot or tell by their eyes the they are in an altered state and call them on it. They wonder how I know. ;-) Hope none of them read HCR!

Expand full comment
Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

They think it is normal and the smell disappears like urban "white noise".

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

Darn Penelope, I'm jealous. Mom took us to pick pachysandra for the local Dems.

Expand full comment
Pensa_VT's avatar

Hahaha! In what way did pachysandra help the Dems? Pachy is root for pachyderm = Elephant = Republican? More evidence that the dems really need to get it together. That dem donkey symbol: The wild donkey -- Equus africanus asinus -- wild ass. Did you know that is why they call them "ass" rom asinus? I just learned something that puzzled me most of my life. I do love donkeys and elephants. I think the repubs elephant should now dawn a White Hood.

Expand full comment
Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

HA! I bet you most definitely did!

Expand full comment
Bruce Murray(VT)'s avatar

People's Park 1969, "Free Huey , Off the Pig" S.F. what is this? Street Cred time?

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

Bruce, no one has encouraged or mentioned violent protests, except you. What's up with that? That rally is an outlier in the history of the 1960s.

Expand full comment
Bruce Murray(VT)'s avatar

Left a reply somewhere. Not sure if you'll ever get it. But no condoning or promoting of violence intended.

Expand full comment
TPJ (MA)'s avatar

Thank you for clarifying, Bruce. Write on.

Expand full comment
David’sinSC's avatar

Write on brother.

Expand full comment
Chuck Schnautz (Oregon)'s avatar

First protest in 1965 against Vietnam War while a grad student at Berkeley.

Expand full comment
Julie's avatar

Thank you! As I said before, your protests in the 60's may have spared my husband from having to go. Had a low draft number but draft ended six months later.

Expand full comment