Hell, some ass will write an opera about Trump and it will be played at the Met and broadcast on cable and in theaters. Add all the documentaries, mini-series, and movies that will be produced, not to mention the histories that will litter our book stores. We'll never be rid of the Orange Plague or his legions of criminal thugs who will …
Hell, some ass will write an opera about Trump and it will be played at the Met and broadcast on cable and in theaters. Add all the documentaries, mini-series, and movies that will be produced, not to mention the histories that will litter our book stores. We'll never be rid of the Orange Plague or his legions of criminal thugs who will threaten our security long after The Don finally bites the dust.
I actually doubt it. The thing about tfg is he - unlike Nixon - is not actually an interesting character. He is so cartoonishly irredeemable, and his particular brand of chaotic cruelty so eventually predictable, that there really aren't many shades or angles for a writer to exploit. There isn't a sympathetic or complex backstory to emphasize, no real rise-and-fall because he never built anything himself, and his need to gobble attention means that the side characters couldn't be developed deeply enough (or stick around long enough). Plus the people most likely to want to buy a ticket would be the least likely to buy a ticket to anything not hagiography, which is the least likely treatment the type of daring artist most likely to tackle the subject would create.
What would be “interesting” in an opera (or some like artistic venue) isn’t about him as a main character, but the people who follow him. I still can’t figure this part out. Who ARE these people and why do they not abandon such a flawed and uninteresting person?
Agreed; it would be hard to make anything other than an antiphonal, non-rhythmic, atonal, and discordant mash of unconnected rubbish. Scat has a beat, hip-hop has a beat, rap has a beat and all of them are wonderfully real.
unloved, narcissistic, bombast, has managed to get 40% of the American electorate.... what's that tell you? "not this round"... so far not according to the polls. Months til Nov though.
Will Trump is a natural character in a Greek tragedy. Whether an Oedipus role with his mother, or having poison poured into his ear, Trump is a natural Greek tragic figure.
Also, perhaps Shakespeare? In Richard III I can imagine him shouting “My kingdom for a whore.”
Will, I hope you're right, but I think you underestimate the venality and pathetic standards of our writers, commentators, composers, and television producers. Even if a Trump opera is never written, they will still cast other operas with Trumpian characters just because they can. Trump may be bankrupt, but his sick mind and rotting body are gold mines.
The opera would be for President Nixon as he had a number of tragic flaws. Trump is a tragic flaw. True-dat about Trump having to bite the dust before the cult is broken. But it will be nice to see him eat the dust for a while.
“Nixon in China” is already an opera in three acts by John Adams, with libretto by Alice Goodman. About Nixon’s 1972 visit , It premiered in Houston in 1987 and broke ground for its portrayal of contemporary subject matter.
As a quick clarification: I referred to President Nixon because he fit the profile more of a tragic hero, often featured in classic tragedies put to libretto. As a bona fide Nixon-hater -- when I was a teen and to my spiritual shame -- I can say safely that Trump makes President Nixon almost seem okay. Perhaps a soap opera would better suit Trump. Back to back: 'Keeping up with the Kardashians' followed by 'Going down with the Trumps'. 😉😃😵💫
Your last sentence, i.e., "legions of criminal thugs".., yeah, it'll take a while. Hopefully, we'll continue to find when they clearly break the law and get them off the street.
We've already been to that 'opera'.., there's nothing to it.. totally banal bs. I'd rather watch re-runs of the Three Stooges...Larry, Moe, and..?? ..? I forget. A documentary on Menendez and his big-titted other... that'd be golden.., maybe.
Hell, some ass will write an opera about Trump and it will be played at the Met and broadcast on cable and in theaters. Add all the documentaries, mini-series, and movies that will be produced, not to mention the histories that will litter our book stores. We'll never be rid of the Orange Plague or his legions of criminal thugs who will threaten our security long after The Don finally bites the dust.
I actually doubt it. The thing about tfg is he - unlike Nixon - is not actually an interesting character. He is so cartoonishly irredeemable, and his particular brand of chaotic cruelty so eventually predictable, that there really aren't many shades or angles for a writer to exploit. There isn't a sympathetic or complex backstory to emphasize, no real rise-and-fall because he never built anything himself, and his need to gobble attention means that the side characters couldn't be developed deeply enough (or stick around long enough). Plus the people most likely to want to buy a ticket would be the least likely to buy a ticket to anything not hagiography, which is the least likely treatment the type of daring artist most likely to tackle the subject would create.
Agreed. Maybe he might get a bit part in a DC Comic as a washed-up villain. He certainly is not interesting enough to be a Marvel villain :)
How can he play any part when he’ll be in PRISON???
What would be “interesting” in an opera (or some like artistic venue) isn’t about him as a main character, but the people who follow him. I still can’t figure this part out. Who ARE these people and why do they not abandon such a flawed and uninteresting person?
They’re either angry from their own shortcomings or greedy cheaters like their creepy leader!
Will, in essence, no “Hamilton” on the horizon?
Not with fpotus as a lead.
Perhaps “Alred” (E Newman) with Eric “Fredo”Trump playing the lead as a Crime Boss progeny
😁
Agreed; it would be hard to make anything other than an antiphonal, non-rhythmic, atonal, and discordant mash of unconnected rubbish. Scat has a beat, hip-hop has a beat, rap has a beat and all of them are wonderfully real.
unloved, narcissistic, bombast, has managed to get 40% of the American electorate.... what's that tell you? "not this round"... so far not according to the polls. Months til Nov though.
Will Trump is a natural character in a Greek tragedy. Whether an Oedipus role with his mother, or having poison poured into his ear, Trump is a natural Greek tragic figure.
Also, perhaps Shakespeare? In Richard III I can imagine him shouting “My kingdom for a whore.”
I'm thinking "Springtime for Hitler and Germany", a good farce. More on a Mel Brooks/Monty Python treatment.
Am with you. Best outcome is he gets consigned to some "you-name-it" spot of invisibility. Then we can move on.
A story of his lifelong search for acceptance by the New York elite would be the closest an author could get to drama.
Will, I hope you're right, but I think you underestimate the venality and pathetic standards of our writers, commentators, composers, and television producers. Even if a Trump opera is never written, they will still cast other operas with Trumpian characters just because they can. Trump may be bankrupt, but his sick mind and rotting body are gold mines.
The opera would be for President Nixon as he had a number of tragic flaws. Trump is a tragic flaw. True-dat about Trump having to bite the dust before the cult is broken. But it will be nice to see him eat the dust for a while.
“Nixon in China” is already an opera in three acts by John Adams, with libretto by Alice Goodman. About Nixon’s 1972 visit , It premiered in Houston in 1987 and broke ground for its portrayal of contemporary subject matter.
Already happened: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nixon-in-China
As a quick clarification: I referred to President Nixon because he fit the profile more of a tragic hero, often featured in classic tragedies put to libretto. As a bona fide Nixon-hater -- when I was a teen and to my spiritual shame -- I can say safely that Trump makes President Nixon almost seem okay. Perhaps a soap opera would better suit Trump. Back to back: 'Keeping up with the Kardashians' followed by 'Going down with the Trumps'. 😉😃😵💫
Has anybody heard Trump sing?
And lived?
😄😄😄
Its his constant humming in MSM that is driving me crazy. The worst earwig, ever.
James Burnham: "Jerry Springer, The Opera" was premiered by the London Opera in April 2003.
This will be "The Opera, Part II."
The White-Supremacist troglodytes will remain. They make up about one-quarter of our country.
Your last sentence, i.e., "legions of criminal thugs".., yeah, it'll take a while. Hopefully, we'll continue to find when they clearly break the law and get them off the street.
We've already been to that 'opera'.., there's nothing to it.. totally banal bs. I'd rather watch re-runs of the Three Stooges...Larry, Moe, and..?? ..? I forget. A documentary on Menendez and his big-titted other... that'd be golden.., maybe.