Indeed. And someone needs to slap some sense into the brainless whiners in the Dem. Party that keep playing into the GQP’s hands.
Pull your heads out you morons. Cheetolini and his fanatical minions are doing their best to lose this election, with their Palin-esque VP pick (vacuous fanatic), and Cheetolini’s own rambling verbosity and inj…
Indeed. And someone needs to slap some sense into the brainless whiners in the Dem. Party that keep playing into the GQP’s hands.
Pull your heads out you morons. Cheetolini and his fanatical minions are doing their best to lose this election, with their Palin-esque VP pick (vacuous fanatic), and Cheetolini’s own rambling verbosity and injury coverup.
Unfortunately, the whiny hand-wringers are insisting on creating news stories to distract from the self-inflicted damage the GQP hatefest/convention is doing.
George, One factor I only recently have come to understand relates to the interest among a sizable number not only for Biden to step down but also for removal of the whole ticket. Whatever the grounds, they could not possibly compensate for the chaos that would ensue.
Accordingly, while I’ve harbored concerns about Biden for some time, I no longer trust the Democratic establishment responsibly to manage changing course at this point.
It sure sounds like the “Democratic Establishment “ has been bought and paid for by Putin’s minions. Sadly, that’s not hard to believe since there is so much utterly corrupting money sloshing around all of our elections (EXACTLY HOW THE FEDERALIST SCUM (and their puppets/minions that now infest our courts) WANT IT). We expect the GQP to be corrupt beyond question, but sadly, the “establishment” Dems are questionable.
With the shockingly stupid statements oozing out about Dems wanting Biden to give up (and that truly is what they’re asking for - giving the election to Cheetolini since that is the guaranteed result from a change at this point), it’s clear that massive amounts of money or favors have been exchanged to buy the careers of these cowards.
George, Respectfully, I don’t subscribe to your thinking. I believe the failure of Biden’s calamitous debate performance to put to rest the doubts about his capacity to campaign, instead, reinforced them, and rightly has caused great concern that has not since been mitigated. In that regard, my consternation rests with Democratic elected officials I’ve only recently come to understand seem incapable of getting fully on board and unified with one another.
Yup. And the result will be another defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.
Remember Shrub (Bush Jr.), and Hillary? We’re about to repeat history a third time.
No amount of wishing will make the perfect candidate appear, but the whining and hand-wringing WILL embolden the already massively biased and cowardly mass media to pile on with “Biden being pressured to bail” stories when there are actual news stories that could have been covered. (sharks, cannibals,unquestioned ear injuries, etc)
George Given the stakes, I’m not giving up pressing for a Democratic Party, fully on board, fully unified, able to shed a light on the harms that would flow from 2025, ensuring every American would know what’s in store for them were Trump to be re-elected.
Good. Please focus on that message. All talk about Biden giving up the election (there is no alternative with a chance), just distracts from the truth that Project 2025 is very dangerous and scary possible if this election is lost.
This is a circular argument....if Biden cannot win, by all indications that we have (not close even by some) so we keep bailing out our leaky boat with a thimble? There are alternatives-- what if Biden also does not at this point have "a chance"?) Pointing to 2025 project to deflect attention of how to prevent that does not work.
You are really over-blowing the debate performance. If you watched the whole thing, you must have noticed that Biden got better toward the end while all Trump did was firehose lies. Stop letting the NYT and its followers define facts for you.
RefJim, With all due respect, not only do I trust my own appraisals, but I’ve also invested great effort to establish a broad geographical, multi-generational, community that connects me to what I most care about—what a wide spectrum of voters think.
Accordingly, largely due to the give-and-take of ongoing exchanges I believe I’ve been afforded a great deal of insight reflected in my postings on this site when viewed in their entirety.
Let's be clear minded on this and the debate performance, tRump has been much, much worse. The Biden performance was bad, yes, but was it one off? Seems to be. Keep in mind that the MSM is now playing both ends against the democrats. They know if they really go after and expose the CONservatives for what they will do if they seep back in power, the retaliation will be harsh and real. They do not fear that the liberals will retaliate as history has shown. The feeding frenzy over Biden has been, to say the least, bizarre and even more salacious than I ever imagined. Even though Biden is respected, he is not feared. MAGAs are the Silver Shirts of the 1920s-30s.
Rickey, To be clear, no one I’m aware of harbors concerns about Biden’s ability to govern; the concerns, for some time, have rested with Biden’s ability to campaign. The debate, scheduled for June, intended to allay doubts, instead reinforced them.
That said, despite my dismay over Democratic elected officials so fractured that they can not react responsibly, the remedy for which I’m pressing is for the Party to get fully on board walking Americans through 2025, chapter and verse.
It's a non-sequitur to say Biden can't campaign but he can govern. It's doubtful that he can govern without his administration and help at this point. He has shortened his day and is sick now, two in a row ( a cold then Covid). If he shows such stubbornness and denial to us, then how far from reality is he? He and his circle will shove him into the nomination by delaying bowing out. It was not only the debate.. there is a dotted line of indication stretching back at least a year about Biden's decline.
Potter, My statement hardly is a non-sequitur. Contrary to my confidence that Biden effectively can govern, admittedly with his team, through his first term, campaigning that galvanizes voters demands that one can poignantly think and speak extemporaneously and is able and eager to take full advantage of the bully pulpit, holding press conferences, town halls, and the like. Biden no longer can do the latter.
Barbara, I mean that it does not follow that Biden can govern, if he cannot campaign. The skills one needs to govern are evident in the ability to campaign, it seems to me. And for sure he cannot do both right now simultaneously... and sick. My basic point is that you cannot separate the two. If you can govern, you can campaign, and the reverse or opposite. Biden has the sensibility that I almost completely agree with and would wish for our country, but he cannot make that happen, first because I am convinced, as are too many others, that he cannot win, but also because of his increasing aging ( which comes with age but at different rates) in this most (MOST) difficult job in the world.
With this comment of yours I cannot begin to fix that. When something does not make sense to me I say why. Otherwise you are saying you just don't agree or you won't consider anything I said.
Ricky, Trump is bat shit crazy, we all know that, but MAGAs love the crazy guy. That will not change. We need an infusion of youth and vigor to show how feeble Trump actually is.
Comment to reflect those at the RNC and his rally attendees. I am not entertained. I cannot stand to listen. I must change the channel or mute him. Makes me ill.
Like it or not, the reality is that many voting Americans are concerned about Biden's age and mental competency to go another year or two, to say nothing about four more years. That's the reality that has put us on the defensive instead of the offensive. Biden suffers from the Ruth Bader Ginsburg syndrome, when old age clouds judgment. The Biden/Harris administration has been outstanding. That now has almost no bearing on the campaign because it has focused, not on Trump's corruption, dishonesty and incompetence, but rather on Biden's condition.
A cabal of media figures, backed by billionaires, wants to get rid of Biden's approach to taxes, unions, etc., and have ginned up a story about Biden's mental competence that just isn't supported by the evidence of his daily work. We've got to stop being suckered by them and support our ticket. At half-speed, Biden is still way better than Trump would be with his staff of sycophants and fascists.
I'm convinced that Biden can do the job, but I'm not a part of that 15% or so that needs to be persuaded. That's now our task when it should be attack, attack, attack. Like it or not, we're on the defensive and there are reasons for it (Biden's stumbling speech at times, for example.)
I am suggesting (above, and will do so periodically till election) that people post this link on their social media, forward it to their email lists, talk about it with their friends/family. It is a quiz that tells you who your "ideal" candidate is based upon your views on important topics and how much they matter to you.
And this administration's past performance is history. It's over. Competence is an issue - is Biden competent enough to go another 4 1/2 years. That is what many voters have on their minds. It is what it is. It would be folly for us to ignore that fact. We all share the frustration. This should be a zero contest, but it isn't. Why? Biden's perceived mental fitness to do the job, even now.
Biden can definitely do the job since he is a delegator. Biden has surrounded himself with highly competent men and women who are doing outstanding jobs. On the other hand, Trump will surround himself with incompetent sycophants.
Richard, I think a good portion of the electorate wants entertainment, not leadership. Otherwise, we wouldn't be where we are.
And the constant drip-drip-drip from Congressfolk saying it's time to change horses because this one is tired isn't helping. I'm not suggesting change ISN'T a good idea; we need the best possible candidate -- but this is no way to do it. Once again, Will Rogers' quote rings true: "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
True, as was said back in Texas while I was growing up and where we used to raise our own chickens for slaughter and used an ax to do the job, chopping off their heads and throwing them to the ground, watching them run and flop and do somersaults: "running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off." No direction, no purpose, nothing rational. We've got a problem.
A Team of Felons. Perhaps this could be Doris Kearns Goodwin's next book. Un f***ing believable. How in the world did we sink to this level of misery and incompetency?
I no longer see this upcoming election as a choice between two candidates. I see it as a choice between a democracy or an authoritarian government. PERIOD.
I will vote for Biden even if he is on life-support.
You ae absolutely correct, IMO, Miselle: this election is between retaining a democratic form of government or ceding power to a would-be dictator. That such a low life at Trump could command this kind of loyalty is an insult to our electorate.
Exactly. But when folks that should be opposing Cheetolini openly talk about it, it adds validity to a massively over covered non -story.
Cheetolini has been spewing batsh*t crazy crap for months (along with sleeping through trials, being convicted of massive fraud, rape, and a big pile of felonies), but let’s focus on the guy that’s three years older.
I'm with you on your last point, Barbara Jo. The Dems are blowing this right now. Others have used the term "bed wetters", and while I think it's appropriate, perhaps "pants wetters" is more so.
Well spoken, GeoC. The (R)ss-holes only real hope for winning this election is for the libtards to dump Biden & Harris. The Electoral Collegiates will take care of the rest. So far, the Russian 'Intelligence Community' is handling things quite well. AOC might only be one of the few with her head on straight. But, she'll be out-of-the-pool, they'll see to that. Bernie? No factor.
George, right now I think the Dems are outdoing them. MAGA has been spewing lies all along, and whatever exposure Dem PR has provided so far, hasn't begun to change the dial, short of a major poll reversal in the final week or two of the campaign. Americans are already putting in their early votes.
To the MAGA people, Trump's lies, convictions, insurrection activity, racism, failed businesses, philandering, fraudulent activities (Trump University and Trump Charitable Organization - both shut down because of fraud) mean nothing. They don't care. Why? Because Trump will crush the hated opposition, i.e., women's rights advocates, gay rights advocates, minorities and immigrants. ["The Anger Games: Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election and Why?" You can google the study.
Yes it's a blend paternalism, racism, nativism and Christian fundamentalism which considers a majority of Americans as sinning and more likely damned. They've swallowed their own Kool-Aid. Also, thanks to Fox
The oligarchs couldn't have asked for anything more, it's mana from heaven: cheap form of mass communications that permits them to spread deception that corrals and herds the masses - Fox News [sic,] Newsmax, One American Network, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and more. Thomas Frank explained this in his book, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" 2004. Hit them with the wedge issues: abortion, women's rights advocates, gay rights advocates, immigrants, etc.
You can call me a whiny handwringer all you want, if you want, and I can call you MAGA-Blue. Where’s that get anybody?
Sure, Biden’s still a thousand times better than Trump, but he has demonstrated a profound and disqualifying incapacity. Voters need a better choice than two obviously unacceptable candidates.
So giving up the election by wishing for a perfect candidate seems like a clever option???
There is ZERO CHANCE for anyone else to have even a remote mathematical chance to beat Cheetolini, and I’m pretty sure we agree that that is the only goal that matters. Sadly, Dems have a long history of losing close elections when a subset of the voters decide that the candidate is imperfect and then throw away their votes on an alternative (Nader??, any of the fringe candidates taking votes from Hillary?), or simply refusing to vote at all which is roughly the same as voting for the scumwad from the GQP.
WHAT incapacity? Did you see the master class in international relations he gave to reporters? His shredding of Lester Holt and the media performance? Stop doing Sulzberger's bidding.
He ‘shredded’ Lester Holt?! I saw the interview and don’t think any shredding occurred (or would, if attempted, have been appropriate). I was talking about Biden’s debate with Trump.
I presume you agree that Trump is a weak opponent. Biden not only lost the debate he was, at times, incoherent. That, to me, demonstrates incapacity. So-so performances in other settings (he was best in the press conference but I wouldn’t say that even there he was at his best) do not change what happened at the debate.
Yes, Biden made a valid point. If you think defensively blaming the media for your failure is going to carry us to victory in November, you’re not likely to be proven correct (or, as the kids would say, delulu).
The issue was Biden’s mental clarity and his ability to engage in real time. Holt was attempting “gotcha” journalism and Biden was having no part of it. Biden pulled a Biden and turned the “gotcha game” back at Holt. Pretty nimble imo
Fwiw, data shows the media protecting the failures of Trump’s mental state and calling attention to any Biden miscue in the number of articles printed referring to, or hiding each. Its not “blaming” the media, its rather “calling them out”
Your prophesy of Nov is not shared by me. As the adults would say, casting aspersions is kinda like admitting that’s “all ya got”
No aspersion. Saying that I think you’re mistaken, even deluded, in your brief that Biden will prevail in November is criticism, not slander. Hope you’re right, if he runs.
Jamie: Holy s**t. He had just returned from several transatlantic trips, jet-lagged, with a cold, and on an unnamed cold medication (possibly Benadryl, which is known to cause cognitive issues), facing a fire hose of lies and THAT’S the sole reason you were convinced he’s in decline, deteriorated, incapacitated?
Indeed. And someone needs to slap some sense into the brainless whiners in the Dem. Party that keep playing into the GQP’s hands.
Pull your heads out you morons. Cheetolini and his fanatical minions are doing their best to lose this election, with their Palin-esque VP pick (vacuous fanatic), and Cheetolini’s own rambling verbosity and injury coverup.
Unfortunately, the whiny hand-wringers are insisting on creating news stories to distract from the self-inflicted damage the GQP hatefest/convention is doing.
George, One factor I only recently have come to understand relates to the interest among a sizable number not only for Biden to step down but also for removal of the whole ticket. Whatever the grounds, they could not possibly compensate for the chaos that would ensue.
Accordingly, while I’ve harbored concerns about Biden for some time, I no longer trust the Democratic establishment responsibly to manage changing course at this point.
It sure sounds like the “Democratic Establishment “ has been bought and paid for by Putin’s minions. Sadly, that’s not hard to believe since there is so much utterly corrupting money sloshing around all of our elections (EXACTLY HOW THE FEDERALIST SCUM (and their puppets/minions that now infest our courts) WANT IT). We expect the GQP to be corrupt beyond question, but sadly, the “establishment” Dems are questionable.
With the shockingly stupid statements oozing out about Dems wanting Biden to give up (and that truly is what they’re asking for - giving the election to Cheetolini since that is the guaranteed result from a change at this point), it’s clear that massive amounts of money or favors have been exchanged to buy the careers of these cowards.
George, Respectfully, I don’t subscribe to your thinking. I believe the failure of Biden’s calamitous debate performance to put to rest the doubts about his capacity to campaign, instead, reinforced them, and rightly has caused great concern that has not since been mitigated. In that regard, my consternation rests with Democratic elected officials I’ve only recently come to understand seem incapable of getting fully on board and unified with one another.
Yup. And the result will be another defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.
Remember Shrub (Bush Jr.), and Hillary? We’re about to repeat history a third time.
No amount of wishing will make the perfect candidate appear, but the whining and hand-wringing WILL embolden the already massively biased and cowardly mass media to pile on with “Biden being pressured to bail” stories when there are actual news stories that could have been covered. (sharks, cannibals,unquestioned ear injuries, etc)
George Given the stakes, I’m not giving up pressing for a Democratic Party, fully on board, fully unified, able to shed a light on the harms that would flow from 2025, ensuring every American would know what’s in store for them were Trump to be re-elected.
Good. Please focus on that message. All talk about Biden giving up the election (there is no alternative with a chance), just distracts from the truth that Project 2025 is very dangerous and scary possible if this election is lost.
This is a circular argument....if Biden cannot win, by all indications that we have (not close even by some) so we keep bailing out our leaky boat with a thimble? There are alternatives-- what if Biden also does not at this point have "a chance"?) Pointing to 2025 project to deflect attention of how to prevent that does not work.
You are really over-blowing the debate performance. If you watched the whole thing, you must have noticed that Biden got better toward the end while all Trump did was firehose lies. Stop letting the NYT and its followers define facts for you.
RefJim, With all due respect, not only do I trust my own appraisals, but I’ve also invested great effort to establish a broad geographical, multi-generational, community that connects me to what I most care about—what a wide spectrum of voters think.
Accordingly, largely due to the give-and-take of ongoing exchanges I believe I’ve been afforded a great deal of insight reflected in my postings on this site when viewed in their entirety.
Let's be clear minded on this and the debate performance, tRump has been much, much worse. The Biden performance was bad, yes, but was it one off? Seems to be. Keep in mind that the MSM is now playing both ends against the democrats. They know if they really go after and expose the CONservatives for what they will do if they seep back in power, the retaliation will be harsh and real. They do not fear that the liberals will retaliate as history has shown. The feeding frenzy over Biden has been, to say the least, bizarre and even more salacious than I ever imagined. Even though Biden is respected, he is not feared. MAGAs are the Silver Shirts of the 1920s-30s.
Rickey, To be clear, no one I’m aware of harbors concerns about Biden’s ability to govern; the concerns, for some time, have rested with Biden’s ability to campaign. The debate, scheduled for June, intended to allay doubts, instead reinforced them.
That said, despite my dismay over Democratic elected officials so fractured that they can not react responsibly, the remedy for which I’m pressing is for the Party to get fully on board walking Americans through 2025, chapter and verse.
It's a non-sequitur to say Biden can't campaign but he can govern. It's doubtful that he can govern without his administration and help at this point. He has shortened his day and is sick now, two in a row ( a cold then Covid). If he shows such stubbornness and denial to us, then how far from reality is he? He and his circle will shove him into the nomination by delaying bowing out. It was not only the debate.. there is a dotted line of indication stretching back at least a year about Biden's decline.
Potter, My statement hardly is a non-sequitur. Contrary to my confidence that Biden effectively can govern, admittedly with his team, through his first term, campaigning that galvanizes voters demands that one can poignantly think and speak extemporaneously and is able and eager to take full advantage of the bully pulpit, holding press conferences, town halls, and the like. Biden no longer can do the latter.
Barbara, I mean that it does not follow that Biden can govern, if he cannot campaign. The skills one needs to govern are evident in the ability to campaign, it seems to me. And for sure he cannot do both right now simultaneously... and sick. My basic point is that you cannot separate the two. If you can govern, you can campaign, and the reverse or opposite. Biden has the sensibility that I almost completely agree with and would wish for our country, but he cannot make that happen, first because I am convinced, as are too many others, that he cannot win, but also because of his increasing aging ( which comes with age but at different rates) in this most (MOST) difficult job in the world.
Your argument does not make sense to me, with all due respect.
With this comment of yours I cannot begin to fix that. When something does not make sense to me I say why. Otherwise you are saying you just don't agree or you won't consider anything I said.
Ricky, Trump is bat shit crazy, we all know that, but MAGAs love the crazy guy. That will not change. We need an infusion of youth and vigor to show how feeble Trump actually is.
From the Gladiator: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
No, Rickey, I find none if this amusing. It’s frightening.
Comment to reflect those at the RNC and his rally attendees. I am not entertained. I cannot stand to listen. I must change the channel or mute him. Makes me ill.
And that's what the media is rolling on since the debate. Now it's in CAPS, so to speak.
Yes. The created turmoil is for ratings.
Like it or not, the reality is that many voting Americans are concerned about Biden's age and mental competency to go another year or two, to say nothing about four more years. That's the reality that has put us on the defensive instead of the offensive. Biden suffers from the Ruth Bader Ginsburg syndrome, when old age clouds judgment. The Biden/Harris administration has been outstanding. That now has almost no bearing on the campaign because it has focused, not on Trump's corruption, dishonesty and incompetence, but rather on Biden's condition.
A cabal of media figures, backed by billionaires, wants to get rid of Biden's approach to taxes, unions, etc., and have ginned up a story about Biden's mental competence that just isn't supported by the evidence of his daily work. We've got to stop being suckered by them and support our ticket. At half-speed, Biden is still way better than Trump would be with his staff of sycophants and fascists.
I'm convinced that Biden can do the job, but I'm not a part of that 15% or so that needs to be persuaded. That's now our task when it should be attack, attack, attack. Like it or not, we're on the defensive and there are reasons for it (Biden's stumbling speech at times, for example.)
I am suggesting (above, and will do so periodically till election) that people post this link on their social media, forward it to their email lists, talk about it with their friends/family. It is a quiz that tells you who your "ideal" candidate is based upon your views on important topics and how much they matter to you.
isidewith.com/elections/2024-presidential-quiz
Tough, tough questions. It is a pain to think one's way through this. Thank you for bringing it to our attention, Miselle.
Remember that we elected an administration. Compare this administration with the last one. Competence over chaos. Service over theft.
And this administration's past performance is history. It's over. Competence is an issue - is Biden competent enough to go another 4 1/2 years. That is what many voters have on their minds. It is what it is. It would be folly for us to ignore that fact. We all share the frustration. This should be a zero contest, but it isn't. Why? Biden's perceived mental fitness to do the job, even now.
Richard: “perceived”
Biden can definitely do the job since he is a delegator. Biden has surrounded himself with highly competent men and women who are doing outstanding jobs. On the other hand, Trump will surround himself with incompetent sycophants.
Richard, I think a good portion of the electorate wants entertainment, not leadership. Otherwise, we wouldn't be where we are.
And the constant drip-drip-drip from Congressfolk saying it's time to change horses because this one is tired isn't helping. I'm not suggesting change ISN'T a good idea; we need the best possible candidate -- but this is no way to do it. Once again, Will Rogers' quote rings true: "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
True, as was said back in Texas while I was growing up and where we used to raise our own chickens for slaughter and used an ax to do the job, chopping off their heads and throwing them to the ground, watching them run and flop and do somersaults: "running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off." No direction, no purpose, nothing rational. We've got a problem.
And felons. Mustn’t forget the deep pool of his “best people” who have been either charged or convicted of major crimes . . .
A Team of Felons. Perhaps this could be Doris Kearns Goodwin's next book. Un f***ing believable. How in the world did we sink to this level of misery and incompetency?
"Mr. Peabody, turn the Wayback Machine to 2015."
I no longer see this upcoming election as a choice between two candidates. I see it as a choice between a democracy or an authoritarian government. PERIOD.
I will vote for Biden even if he is on life-support.
You ae absolutely correct, IMO, Miselle: this election is between retaining a democratic form of government or ceding power to a would-be dictator. That such a low life at Trump could command this kind of loyalty is an insult to our electorate.
It is the reality today.
Exactly. But when folks that should be opposing Cheetolini openly talk about it, it adds validity to a massively over covered non -story.
Cheetolini has been spewing batsh*t crazy crap for months (along with sleeping through trials, being convicted of massive fraud, rape, and a big pile of felonies), but let’s focus on the guy that’s three years older.
I dont think the campaign has focused on that.
Richard and others, this commentary by Mehdi Hasan is an excellent perspective:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/15/democrats-joe-biden-maga?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
I'm with you on your last point, Barbara Jo. The Dems are blowing this right now. Others have used the term "bed wetters", and while I think it's appropriate, perhaps "pants wetters" is more so.
It is so shocking to me to see this happening.
Pardon if you've seen this already. It explains that point better than I could.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRxuOWkr1E&t=6s
For the ship to proceed, there's got to be a rudder..., steered by someone. (boink)
Well spoken, GeoC. The (R)ss-holes only real hope for winning this election is for the libtards to dump Biden & Harris. The Electoral Collegiates will take care of the rest. So far, the Russian 'Intelligence Community' is handling things quite well. AOC might only be one of the few with her head on straight. But, she'll be out-of-the-pool, they'll see to that. Bernie? No factor.
George, right now I think the Dems are outdoing them. MAGA has been spewing lies all along, and whatever exposure Dem PR has provided so far, hasn't begun to change the dial, short of a major poll reversal in the final week or two of the campaign. Americans are already putting in their early votes.
To the MAGA people, Trump's lies, convictions, insurrection activity, racism, failed businesses, philandering, fraudulent activities (Trump University and Trump Charitable Organization - both shut down because of fraud) mean nothing. They don't care. Why? Because Trump will crush the hated opposition, i.e., women's rights advocates, gay rights advocates, minorities and immigrants. ["The Anger Games: Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election and Why?" You can google the study.
Yes it's a blend paternalism, racism, nativism and Christian fundamentalism which considers a majority of Americans as sinning and more likely damned. They've swallowed their own Kool-Aid. Also, thanks to Fox
The oligarchs couldn't have asked for anything more, it's mana from heaven: cheap form of mass communications that permits them to spread deception that corrals and herds the masses - Fox News [sic,] Newsmax, One American Network, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and more. Thomas Frank explained this in his book, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" 2004. Hit them with the wedge issues: abortion, women's rights advocates, gay rights advocates, immigrants, etc.
You can call me a whiny handwringer all you want, if you want, and I can call you MAGA-Blue. Where’s that get anybody?
Sure, Biden’s still a thousand times better than Trump, but he has demonstrated a profound and disqualifying incapacity. Voters need a better choice than two obviously unacceptable candidates.
So giving up the election by wishing for a perfect candidate seems like a clever option???
There is ZERO CHANCE for anyone else to have even a remote mathematical chance to beat Cheetolini, and I’m pretty sure we agree that that is the only goal that matters. Sadly, Dems have a long history of losing close elections when a subset of the voters decide that the candidate is imperfect and then throw away their votes on an alternative (Nader??, any of the fringe candidates taking votes from Hillary?), or simply refusing to vote at all which is roughly the same as voting for the scumwad from the GQP.
Sadly, I remember
You may have a point there. Right now the Dems, aided by the usual hungry media, are virtually destroying Biden, if not Harris as collateral damage.
Agreed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRxuOWkr1E&t=6s
HRC didn’t lose because people like you and me voted for Jill Stein or Ralph Nader. (In fact, but for the Electoral College, HRC won!)
WHAT incapacity? Did you see the master class in international relations he gave to reporters? His shredding of Lester Holt and the media performance? Stop doing Sulzberger's bidding.
He ‘shredded’ Lester Holt?! I saw the interview and don’t think any shredding occurred (or would, if attempted, have been appropriate). I was talking about Biden’s debate with Trump.
I presume you agree that Trump is a weak opponent. Biden not only lost the debate he was, at times, incoherent. That, to me, demonstrates incapacity. So-so performances in other settings (he was best in the press conference but I wouldn’t say that even there he was at his best) do not change what happened at the debate.
I saw Holt being shredded by Biden. Holt was speechless when Biden challenged the media’s free pass to Trump
Yes, Biden made a valid point. If you think defensively blaming the media for your failure is going to carry us to victory in November, you’re not likely to be proven correct (or, as the kids would say, delulu).
The issue was Biden’s mental clarity and his ability to engage in real time. Holt was attempting “gotcha” journalism and Biden was having no part of it. Biden pulled a Biden and turned the “gotcha game” back at Holt. Pretty nimble imo
Fwiw, data shows the media protecting the failures of Trump’s mental state and calling attention to any Biden miscue in the number of articles printed referring to, or hiding each. Its not “blaming” the media, its rather “calling them out”
Your prophesy of Nov is not shared by me. As the adults would say, casting aspersions is kinda like admitting that’s “all ya got”
"Calling them out" THIS
No aspersion. Saying that I think you’re mistaken, even deluded, in your brief that Biden will prevail in November is criticism, not slander. Hope you’re right, if he runs.
—Whiny Handwringer
as·per·sion
/əˈspərZHən/
noun
1.
an attack on the reputation or integrity of someone or something:
"I don't think anyone is casting aspersions on you"
Saying I may be mistaken is a far cry from saying I’m delusional
Learn definitions. Words mean things
Jamie: Holy s**t. He had just returned from several transatlantic trips, jet-lagged, with a cold, and on an unnamed cold medication (possibly Benadryl, which is known to cause cognitive issues), facing a fire hose of lies and THAT’S the sole reason you were convinced he’s in decline, deteriorated, incapacitated?
at this point - suicide.
Perhaps, then, this would be of interest to you:
isidewith.com/elections/2024-presidential-quiz
AOC has a video that pretty much nails it.