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Jamie Baldwin's avatar

You can call me a whiny handwringer all you want, if you want, and I can call you MAGA-Blue. Where’s that get anybody?

Sure, Biden’s still a thousand times better than Trump, but he has demonstrated a profound and disqualifying incapacity. Voters need a better choice than two obviously unacceptable candidates.

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GeorgeC's avatar

So giving up the election by wishing for a perfect candidate seems like a clever option???

There is ZERO CHANCE for anyone else to have even a remote mathematical chance to beat Cheetolini, and I’m pretty sure we agree that that is the only goal that matters. Sadly, Dems have a long history of losing close elections when a subset of the voters decide that the candidate is imperfect and then throw away their votes on an alternative (Nader??, any of the fringe candidates taking votes from Hillary?), or simply refusing to vote at all which is roughly the same as voting for the scumwad from the GQP.

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JDinTX's avatar

Sadly, I remember

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Frank Loomer's avatar

You may have a point there. Right now the Dems, aided by the usual hungry media, are virtually destroying Biden, if not Harris as collateral damage.

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Jamie Baldwin's avatar

HRC didn’t lose because people like you and me voted for Jill Stein or Ralph Nader. (In fact, but for the Electoral College, HRC won!)

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RefJim's avatar

WHAT incapacity? Did you see the master class in international relations he gave to reporters? His shredding of Lester Holt and the media performance? Stop doing Sulzberger's bidding.

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Jamie Baldwin's avatar

He ‘shredded’ Lester Holt?! I saw the interview and don’t think any shredding occurred (or would, if attempted, have been appropriate). I was talking about Biden’s debate with Trump.

I presume you agree that Trump is a weak opponent. Biden not only lost the debate he was, at times, incoherent. That, to me, demonstrates incapacity. So-so performances in other settings (he was best in the press conference but I wouldn’t say that even there he was at his best) do not change what happened at the debate.

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Dave Dalton's avatar

I saw Holt being shredded by Biden. Holt was speechless when Biden challenged the media’s free pass to Trump

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Jamie Baldwin's avatar

Yes, Biden made a valid point. If you think defensively blaming the media for your failure is going to carry us to victory in November, you’re not likely to be proven correct (or, as the kids would say, delulu).

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Dave Dalton's avatar

The issue was Biden’s mental clarity and his ability to engage in real time. Holt was attempting “gotcha” journalism and Biden was having no part of it. Biden pulled a Biden and turned the “gotcha game” back at Holt. Pretty nimble imo

Fwiw, data shows the media protecting the failures of Trump’s mental state and calling attention to any Biden miscue in the number of articles printed referring to, or hiding each. Its not “blaming” the media, its rather “calling them out”

Your prophesy of Nov is not shared by me. As the adults would say, casting aspersions is kinda like admitting that’s “all ya got”

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Kathy Clark's avatar

"Calling them out" THIS

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Jamie Baldwin's avatar

No aspersion. Saying that I think you’re mistaken, even deluded, in your brief that Biden will prevail in November is criticism, not slander. Hope you’re right, if he runs.

—Whiny Handwringer

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Dave Dalton's avatar

as·per·sion

/əˈspərZHən/

noun

1.

an attack on the reputation or integrity of someone or something:

"I don't think anyone is casting aspersions on you"

Saying I may be mistaken is a far cry from saying I’m delusional

Learn definitions. Words mean things

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Marge Wherley's avatar

Jamie: Holy s**t. He had just returned from several transatlantic trips, jet-lagged, with a cold, and on an unnamed cold medication (possibly Benadryl, which is known to cause cognitive issues), facing a fire hose of lies and THAT’S the sole reason you were convinced he’s in decline, deteriorated, incapacitated?

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Rickey Woody's avatar

at this point - suicide.

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Miselle's avatar

Perhaps, then, this would be of interest to you:

isidewith.com/elections/2024-presidential-quiz

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