As you write this, J L, I'm listening to Allan Lichtman on the Meidas Touch.
Professor Lichtman hates polls (numbers games of a peculiarly perverse value). A 100% correct prognosticator of presidential winners for every election since 1984, he hates even more the spinelessness of Dems today, who flock from backing their president, as they…
As you write this, J L, I'm listening to Allan Lichtman on the Meidas Touch.
Professor Lichtman hates polls (numbers games of a peculiarly perverse value). A 100% correct prognosticator of presidential winners for every election since 1984, he hates even more the spinelessness of Dems today, who flock from backing their president, as they confuse stagecraft with doing president things.
Lichtman uses data in his measuring. He values numbers, if they're apt numbers. Otherwise he has contempt for those who flock to the chimerical, rather as your Nazi guards shuffling the cards of death.
What's the opposite of spinelessness? It would be Dems capable of citing humanities, seeing the human -- citing the human in quoting from best Dems around us seeing and doing the best things.
Cannot. Just polls. Assume no point in quoting anything human. Only one thing that counts -- having Lord Magic at the top, with lordly slick stagecraft.
We see what they are. Also, I would like to know how they got their sampling. This is not door to door knocking, but people responding on line or over the phone. No one I know would respond to such a poll. So, that leaves the people who would. Those have been characterized as not necessarily voting, but liking to be heard. So, Jay Kuo talks about the difference between results in polls of people who actually and are likely to vote, versus polls that includes people who are not voting, or likely to vote, and the former are more favorable to Biden.
Linda-Thanks for this link that breaks down how bogus polls are being used to create the narrative that an overwhelming number of Dems want Biden to step down. Lies, lies and more lies. Only the truth will set us free.
Hurts so bad, hurts so much, Linda -- that Dems so paralyze themselves.
If they loved America, they'd be full of the literacy to cite Americans, to quote each other, to enthuse over the decency and human needs in their various communities.
But no humanities, no humanity sustains them. Only wonk numbers. Polls. Stats in no human context.
As I've said before, I've seen this crippling dehumanization before, when I was Nam translator in the U.S. Army, when all its Ivy League elites then, too, moved to idiot abstractions, even more idiot trust in numbers (pipeline supplies), as Dems today similarly slave only to poll numbers for helpless, victim-paralysis.
Phil, I am not paralyzed, just angry that the naysayers in the Democratic party have joined people like Joe Manchin and Sinema as tanking the party. I think these people should quickly form an independent third party and run their own candidate. Maybe they can back Kennedy. Obama is in the Et tu Brutus category as far as I am concerned. I will boycott his center, once the monstrosity is finished being built in my neighborhood where we protested losing trees to build this thing that is not going to enrich the neighborhood, but rewards a lot of his faithful fundraisers and supporters who still live here, while he does not. He just has a house here. We should be focused on defeating Trump, the Supreme Court justices who are unjust and Putin. They are just so much noise and distraction from that.
Ideas help us to navigate a complicated world, but we kill the goose that lays the golden eggs when we clutch at it too tightly. Even errors can be progress when we let them go. Confusing the constructs of our mind with realities leads to delusional thinking and/or sociopathy. Sometimes numbers are life-saving, but used carelessly, never mind dishonestly, they can more easily mislead. What does an SAT score tell about a unique human's skills and capacities? Much less their character? Not much frankly, and I can give examples. How did we arrive at a population where so many identify with Trump?
RIGHT ON Linda! The inconsistency between what we hear as results of polls not matching what we know from our own experience seems a corollary of the fundamental paradox of believers in tRump's lies about the state of the world despite their own lived experience. They succumb to the "kayfabe" Heather has described in today's LFAA! Frankly it is simply UNBELIEVABLE that more than 50% of any accurately conducted poll would prefer a return of tRump to office. Period.
Yes JohnM. I totally agree with you. Apparently Biden sent people knocking on doors and from 100,000 respondents in fact to face polling 76% support Biden. That is believeable to me because people do not want what Trump is offering. -----
I am wondering whether naysayers got scared when they found themselves on Trump's enemies "HIT" list, and started going bonkers. If one knows that Hitler had a tea party with his cabinet members and their families invited to his home while he sent out a squad to kill the 400 people on his hit list, including friends. We are almost 100 years later and Trump is still worshipping this fascist. It is obvious that as he gets chances to speak, and as Project 2025 gets known it will tank the Trump campaign.
It could happen, and with our semi-antidemocratic system, Trump won once, even without $COTUS' foot directly on the scales. But I think a lot of effort needs to go into highlighting what matters here.
Here’s a question I have been asking many of my friends who are obsessed with poll numbers. How many times in the past ten years have you responded to a poll? The answer I get most often is none. So who is responding to these polls. In the past few years I have lost faith in any polls and more recently the same goes for pundits.
That is what I am saying. Jay Kuo points out that these polls often include people who do not intend to vote, but want to be heard. So, the media, which seems to be filled with Ivy League grads who cannot draw a line between two points when it comes to understanding this election and whose ethics have them writing for clicks and not to save our country from fascism, where journalists don't fare too well. No one I know responds to polls that come over the internet. However, apparently Biden did a door to door poll where they had 100,000 respondents. Their results were that 75% were voting for Biden. I do not know more than that, but it is talked about here. This was sent to me from Kathy. Still a lot of work to do but Biden can win and Cheatolini just keeps making it easier.
She is such a brilliant politician that I hope we see big things for her in the future. She is spelling out the reality of the moment. We need everyone to fight 100% for the Biden-Harris ticket!
Ms. Weide, thank you so much for your comment and valuable resources. I had been reading Jay Kuo’s column for a while and then stopped receiving them and thought he was taking a break. I am voting for President Biden. Jay
I have stopped answering polls because they always end with a request for money. I tell them that I contribute where I want to and gladly will give my opinion if you really want it, but I won’t combine the two
Stagecraft is no substitute for statecraft. Eloquence and clarity is the mark of skilled leadership, such as Lincoln or FDR on the bombing of Pearl Harbor, but best spun fabrications passed off as truths just leads one into traps. Fiction can be a vehicle for profound truths, when offered as fiction. Lies, by definition, are led to mis-lead. Lies killed in the pandemic. The kill every day. We can never know for sure we have the truth, and we can sometime spread lies or errors unknowingly,
As you write this, J L, I'm listening to Allan Lichtman on the Meidas Touch.
Professor Lichtman hates polls (numbers games of a peculiarly perverse value). A 100% correct prognosticator of presidential winners for every election since 1984, he hates even more the spinelessness of Dems today, who flock from backing their president, as they confuse stagecraft with doing president things.
Lichtman uses data in his measuring. He values numbers, if they're apt numbers. Otherwise he has contempt for those who flock to the chimerical, rather as your Nazi guards shuffling the cards of death.
What's the opposite of spinelessness? It would be Dems capable of citing humanities, seeing the human -- citing the human in quoting from best Dems around us seeing and doing the best things.
Cannot. Just polls. Assume no point in quoting anything human. Only one thing that counts -- having Lord Magic at the top, with lordly slick stagecraft.
Here is a deconstruction of an NORC poll. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/17/2255111/-So-Two-Thirds-of-us-want-Biden-to-drop-out-Huh?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
We see what they are. Also, I would like to know how they got their sampling. This is not door to door knocking, but people responding on line or over the phone. No one I know would respond to such a poll. So, that leaves the people who would. Those have been characterized as not necessarily voting, but liking to be heard. So, Jay Kuo talks about the difference between results in polls of people who actually and are likely to vote, versus polls that includes people who are not voting, or likely to vote, and the former are more favorable to Biden.
Linda-Thanks for this link that breaks down how bogus polls are being used to create the narrative that an overwhelming number of Dems want Biden to step down. Lies, lies and more lies. Only the truth will set us free.
Hurts so bad, hurts so much, Linda -- that Dems so paralyze themselves.
If they loved America, they'd be full of the literacy to cite Americans, to quote each other, to enthuse over the decency and human needs in their various communities.
But no humanities, no humanity sustains them. Only wonk numbers. Polls. Stats in no human context.
As I've said before, I've seen this crippling dehumanization before, when I was Nam translator in the U.S. Army, when all its Ivy League elites then, too, moved to idiot abstractions, even more idiot trust in numbers (pipeline supplies), as Dems today similarly slave only to poll numbers for helpless, victim-paralysis.
Phil, I am not paralyzed, just angry that the naysayers in the Democratic party have joined people like Joe Manchin and Sinema as tanking the party. I think these people should quickly form an independent third party and run their own candidate. Maybe they can back Kennedy. Obama is in the Et tu Brutus category as far as I am concerned. I will boycott his center, once the monstrosity is finished being built in my neighborhood where we protested losing trees to build this thing that is not going to enrich the neighborhood, but rewards a lot of his faithful fundraisers and supporters who still live here, while he does not. He just has a house here. We should be focused on defeating Trump, the Supreme Court justices who are unjust and Putin. They are just so much noise and distraction from that.
Ideas help us to navigate a complicated world, but we kill the goose that lays the golden eggs when we clutch at it too tightly. Even errors can be progress when we let them go. Confusing the constructs of our mind with realities leads to delusional thinking and/or sociopathy. Sometimes numbers are life-saving, but used carelessly, never mind dishonestly, they can more easily mislead. What does an SAT score tell about a unique human's skills and capacities? Much less their character? Not much frankly, and I can give examples. How did we arrive at a population where so many identify with Trump?
RIGHT ON Linda! The inconsistency between what we hear as results of polls not matching what we know from our own experience seems a corollary of the fundamental paradox of believers in tRump's lies about the state of the world despite their own lived experience. They succumb to the "kayfabe" Heather has described in today's LFAA! Frankly it is simply UNBELIEVABLE that more than 50% of any accurately conducted poll would prefer a return of tRump to office. Period.
Yes JohnM. I totally agree with you. Apparently Biden sent people knocking on doors and from 100,000 respondents in fact to face polling 76% support Biden. That is believeable to me because people do not want what Trump is offering. -----
I am wondering whether naysayers got scared when they found themselves on Trump's enemies "HIT" list, and started going bonkers. If one knows that Hitler had a tea party with his cabinet members and their families invited to his home while he sent out a squad to kill the 400 people on his hit list, including friends. We are almost 100 years later and Trump is still worshipping this fascist. It is obvious that as he gets chances to speak, and as Project 2025 gets known it will tank the Trump campaign.
It could happen, and with our semi-antidemocratic system, Trump won once, even without $COTUS' foot directly on the scales. But I think a lot of effort needs to go into highlighting what matters here.
god bless you
Here’s a question I have been asking many of my friends who are obsessed with poll numbers. How many times in the past ten years have you responded to a poll? The answer I get most often is none. So who is responding to these polls. In the past few years I have lost faith in any polls and more recently the same goes for pundits.
That is what I am saying. Jay Kuo points out that these polls often include people who do not intend to vote, but want to be heard. So, the media, which seems to be filled with Ivy League grads who cannot draw a line between two points when it comes to understanding this election and whose ethics have them writing for clicks and not to save our country from fascism, where journalists don't fare too well. No one I know responds to polls that come over the internet. However, apparently Biden did a door to door poll where they had 100,000 respondents. Their results were that 75% were voting for Biden. I do not know more than that, but it is talked about here. This was sent to me from Kathy. Still a lot of work to do but Biden can win and Cheatolini just keeps making it easier.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/biden-harris-campaign-chief-says-biden-is-absolutely-in-this-race-215247429608
I also got this from someone else with AOC. I recently sent her money because of her taking on the SCOTUS.
https://youtu.be/hKOYyEjLCHI?si=uwGc8EpjkU9EXrV1
She is such a brilliant politician that I hope we see big things for her in the future. She is spelling out the reality of the moment. We need everyone to fight 100% for the Biden-Harris ticket!
Ms. Weide, thank you so much for your comment and valuable resources. I had been reading Jay Kuo’s column for a while and then stopped receiving them and thought he was taking a break. I am voting for President Biden. Jay
Yay Jay!
I have stopped answering polls because they always end with a request for money. I tell them that I contribute where I want to and gladly will give my opinion if you really want it, but I won’t combine the two
Stagecraft is no substitute for statecraft. Eloquence and clarity is the mark of skilled leadership, such as Lincoln or FDR on the bombing of Pearl Harbor, but best spun fabrications passed off as truths just leads one into traps. Fiction can be a vehicle for profound truths, when offered as fiction. Lies, by definition, are led to mis-lead. Lies killed in the pandemic. The kill every day. We can never know for sure we have the truth, and we can sometime spread lies or errors unknowingly,
But we know when we are lying. It's a choice.