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craig litherland's avatar

Let's stay with the facts. Volkswagen only produced the beetle and German jeep during the war. The VW transporter/van/bus was created by a Dutch businessman named Ben Pon after the war in 1947. Please leave the revisionist history with the wacknut Republican fascists.

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Roland (CA->WA)'s avatar

Easy there, Big Guy, we're all learning from each other here. You're bringing good information into the discussion, thank you very much. No one is engaging in revisionist history here, not that I've seen. Personally I do not know what types of engines and/or engine-driven vehicles were used during the Holocaust, so I appreciate very much Marlene and you, Craig, informing me. Take a look at Marlene's final line. "That's how my grandparents died." We are delving into painful subjects, personally very painful subjects, this is not history from afar, this is history up close and personal, way too personal. Both my parents grew up in that period in Germany. All of us are trying to learn about that period of history, we are students trying to heal painful family heritage, no one is engaging in revisionism or misinformation, from what I have seen there are no attempts here to engage in altering facts. We are just trying to get to the bottom of events that are disturbing to look at.

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craig litherland's avatar

I'm sorry if my "revisionist history" statement offended, I only took exception to the use of VW vans being used as transport by the Germans in those horrendous death camps. I have an old VW bus (van), horrible enough to think that VW was so instrumental in slave labour and concentration. I don't think I could continue to own my bus if knew it had been built/used to transport in such an evil way.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Yes, you raised my blood pressure up a lot! I do know that Hitler was attracted to vans that were used to gas people. I also know that Hitler used Jews to be slave laborers to put these vehicles together.

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Stuart Attewell (Paris, Fr)'s avatar

Unfortunately, VW was founded by the Nazi Party Government's German labour Front and was heavily implicated in the use of slave labour and concentration camp victims to produce the "jeep" based on the beetle chassis.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/volkswagen-halts-production-during-world-war-ii

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/volkswagen-1

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craig litherland's avatar

I'm sorry if my "revisionist history" statement offended, I only took exception to the use of VW vans being used as transport by the Germans in those horrendous death camps. I have an old VW bus (van), horrible enough to think that VW was so instrumental in slave labour and concentration. I don't think I could continue to own my bus if knew it had been built/used to transport in such an evil way.

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