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Just Sayin''s avatar

TFG had advisors who fed him lines of BS? Remember, he chose his advisors. When they stopped saying what he wanted to hear, he sacked them and appointed new ones, with accelerating frequency as his term came to a close. He seemed to have a talent for picking a rogue's gallery of "advisors", several of whom have already been convicted and served time for one form of white collar crime or another. And, now he has the RNC in his pocket as well. But, the closer and closer he flies to the flame, the more other Republicans will slowly succumb to the fear that being associated with him will destroy their chances with more moderate and orthodox party voters and independents. We still have nearly 3 years to the 2024 election, plenty of time for him to continue spouting increasingly outrageous lies and self incriminating statements, even IF the DOJ can't summon the courage to indict and prosecute him. The only court he cares about is the one with 160 million members in the jury box. It's worth remembering that he DID capture a personal record number of voters in 2020 and still lost by 5 million+ AND the electoral college. There just won't be enough voters in his base willing to stick with him in spite of himself to carry an election. He may wreak havoc in the primary, but the Republican orthodoxy (do they even exist anymore?) will have to make the brutal choice to perish in flames with him, or summon the courage to put him out to pasture and choose new champions. I haven't seen much evidence of courage in the current generation of elected national Republican leaders, so I wouldn't lay odds on their behaving as king-makers for anyone "new" in 2024. One simply can't speak from a position of strength while attempting to split the baby, to stand straight upright on the fractured ground of a huge pile of lies.

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Linda Weide's avatar

Words to describe those who follow Trump are opportunists and sycophants! Those are the ones that I can print. I have some choice words in German too. At the same time, I cannot help wondering why this obviously criminal ex-president is not thrown in jail and locked away where he belongs. I have long been thinking about the appropriate location for a penal colony for Trump and all of his sycophantic gangster Republican homies.

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Just Sayin''s avatar

we already own Guantanamo...

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Pensa_VT's avatar

I used to think of Gitmo in the early years of the past regime. Now, it is way too small for all the traitors to America. We need to look to the Siberian suggestions below.

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Pensa_VT's avatar

I have had the same dream for five years. Mine occurs for all to be deported to Siberia.

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Linda Weide's avatar

Yes. I was thinking the uninhabited Russian Arctic Island of New Siberia.

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Pensa_VT's avatar

An island might be better than the desert. They can learn to fish and work like other people do.

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Linda Weide's avatar

Zemalya Bunge, is an uninhabited New Siberian Island that is a barren sandy plain. That would be my choice. It has no vegetation and some think it might be sea floor that was caused to rise above sea level.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Thanks for the reference. I'd never heard of it. In regard to using it as a penal colony, there is a problem-could easily be flooded-given sea rise. I found this article about it: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/147359/sandy-plains-in-the-arctic

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Linda Weide's avatar

Since none of the people I am talking about profess to believe in global warming this should not be a problem for them because it is not real.

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Roland (CA->WA)'s avatar

This is a problem??

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Allen Hingston's avatar

seems like a good plan

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Roland (CA->WA)'s avatar

Very enjoyable train of thought

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Allen Hingston's avatar

Oh. Good. I've been to Siberia. It is a wonderful place. My inlaws live in Khakasia and my niece goes to university in Krasnoyarsk. Lenin was sent to Siberia by the Czar and look where it got hom

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kim  CR🌈🌴😎's avatar

How about 'cult'?

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Have you heard of Nauru? or Christmas Island?

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Linda Weide's avatar

Yes. Those are populated islands.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

They have been used for years by the Australian government as detention centres for any refugees or asylum-seekers trying to reach Australia by boat. Bad story. I was being ironic. But they are fully equipped with huts, basic communal facilities, guards, and high barbed wire fences.

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Pensa_VT's avatar

No twitter?

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Pensa_VT's avatar

Sounds like a PERFECT penal colony for our seditious ex-pats!! Perfect for America and the rest of the world. What a delicious dream to manifest.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

And I forgot to mention that it's up near the equator - it's always hot, with monsoonal rains...

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Pensa_VT's avatar

Oh, Anne-Louise, the penal island "getaway...from us" is sounding better each time you include another description. Sweet Justice! (Tinged slightly with a wee bit of revenge).

Um..one last question—is there a golf course? Or just a nice, giant, hot sand pit?

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

No golf course - Nauru consists of towering cliffs of phosphate (guano) rising from the ocean, and if they cleared enough of the Christmas Island jungle it would promptly be taken over by the swarms of giant red crabs which are the local fauna. I think everything's there for them, even without that sand pit.

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TCinLA's avatar

There are no "good Republicans." There is the Party of Trump, and all he did was make it OK for them to say out loud what they have believed for decades. One of the founding parties that became the GOP were the former Know Nothings, who now run the entire show.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Ain't that the truth. Giving them permission to be openly racist, sexist, and all the phobics of the LGBTQ+ community.

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kim  CR🌈🌴😎's avatar

Pithy, dear TC

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Themon the Bard's avatar

But you see, The Former Guy wasn't really bad. He was just stupid.

I believe this is called "damning with faint praise." And it seems to be the very best that his most ardent admirers can come up with.

Of course, I damn him with nothing that can be called "faint," nor can it be even remotely associated with "praise." I've even invented a new part of the Inferno for him to spend eternity in.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I dunno, Joseph. He’s not dumb and I truly feel his “admirers” don’t think he’s stupid. I know this was tongue-in-cheek, but TFG is extremely dangerous. If he is finally thrown in prison, my guess is he’ll sing like a canary. He won’t want to be by himself facing the audience…this time.

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kim  CR🌈🌴😎's avatar

trying to 'like' this, but substack won't let me.

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Roland (CA->WA)'s avatar

Also trying to ❤️ Marlene’s post

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

I think the red ink gets blocked. I clicked on all three hearts, nothing, then refreshed, and lo! they were all fixed when I came back.

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Sometimes, if you write a comment, you can come back to the post and like it. Other times, getting off Substack and back on fixes it. For a while.

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Barbara D. Reed's avatar

Try refreshing the page-that should help.

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Annie D Stratton's avatar

When I try that, I end up somewhere else in the long, long list, and am lost. <sigh>

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Themon the Bard's avatar

I was just clarifying their argument. "He wasn't bad, he just had bad advisors."

Sure, Mr. Trump, go ahead and put your tongue on that frozen flagpole.....

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Gus Koch (GA)'s avatar

Joseph, it looks more like they are praising with faint damn to me....make that wing of the inferno big enough for all of them....

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

Why did that make me laugh so much? getting feeble.

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Gailee Walker Wells's avatar

Many who voted ¨for him¨ were voting against Biden because they truly believe the Dems will establish a Venezuelan form of socialism. I know a few of them.

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