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John Ranta's avatar

Nikki Haley made the mistake of saying the quiet part about today’s Republican party out loud. “And I will always stand by the fact that, I think, government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the WHITE people.” She was supposed to just hint at the white supremacy, not blurt it out.

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Mary Hardt's avatar

John Ranta, can you give us a link to your source? Every source that I’ve found says “the people”, not “the WHITE people”.

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John Ranta's avatar

Mary, not sure if you are serious. I of course inserted “white” to make the point that Haley refused to say that the government fought the Civil War to free the slaves, because Republicans think the government is only supposed to work for white people.

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Mary Hardt's avatar

John, you made the point, after inserting the word WHITE, that she’d said the quiet part out loud. I think that you’d have objected if anyone on this forum had inserted words in a quote from, say, Biden to make a point. One of the things that I admire is that, here, most of the posters follow HCR’s lead in not only posting exact quotes, but posting links so that readers can decide for themselves how trustworthy the source is. Based on legitimate quotes from Haley, chances are that what you wrote is what she believes.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nikki-haleys-civil-war-comments-no-accident-1234937374/amp/

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John Ranta's avatar

I was using poetic license to make a point about Haley’s closeted Confederate sympathies. I take your point about accuracy and citing sources. I hoped folks would accept my satirical liberties.

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Mary Hardt's avatar

John, I find that putting the satire inside of < > works well.

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John Ranta's avatar

Not as powerful to use the /s s/. Or necessary, in my opinion. I won’t post here anymore, so as not to run afoul of your sensibilities.

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Mary Hardt's avatar

John Ranta, thanks for the tip to use /s s/. You didn’t run afoul of my sensibilities; I just wanted to know that those on this Substack group were aware what Nikki Haley said. If you go to the link, I think that you’ll find that I’m in agreement with you in principle.

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John Ranta's avatar

I remain totally confused by your comments. You understood my insertion of “WHITE”? You disagree with my insertion of “WHITE”? You want me to highlight satire? You get satire but want me to follow MLA guidelines for citing sources? The whole thing is tiring, takes all the fun out of commenting, just not worth the effort. I am going to retire from HCR’s blog. You guys work it out.

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James Burnham's avatar

C'mon, John. Stick around. We agree with your thesis. Don't be offended if a question arises from time to time. We all make unclear remarks from time to time.

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Mary Hardt's avatar

I missed the satire and thought that Haley may have said it. That’s why I asked for your sources, thinking that I may have missed a valuable resource.

A lot of the commenters aim to share sources in the spirit of sharing the truth. That’s why we, like HCR, share links to our sources when we feel that others may not have seen them.

I’d urge you not to retire from HCR’s blog—there’s a lot of good information shared here.

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D4N's avatar

That's my take as well John; she's just so used to dog whistling along with cohorts within their self-affirming echo chamber, it just tumbled out of her mouth. Her ego's a little inflated I'm thinking from pats on the back from Koch's. But whatever, it was delightful watching the stumble.

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Rhonda Buckland's avatar

Her body language was very “loud”.

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D4N's avatar

Indeed Rhonda. Like me, you seem 'attuned' to those nuances; I find that to be a mixed curse / blessing that I have to wrestle with on a too regular basis, so I have to 'test' those signals against logic and facts in evidence - ever aware as I can, that most folks (me included) just love to believe their own bs. I do hope that you and those of good will herein and without, are able to find something uplifting to cherish over the reflective holiday around you and within you. Cheers friend !

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JennSH from NC's avatar

Any person or idea supported by the Koch network is VERY BAD for America.

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D4N's avatar

Say Jenn; I have to thank you for all your shares. It occurred to me last night to mention it but I was just too exhausted to read and write anymore. Your comments are such a font of knowledge, experience, etc. I learn something here every time I log on here; a thing I personally cherish. Thanks for going to the bother of sharing; I truly appreciate it; from you and so many others herein. I do so hope they 'know' I feel that way. I happen to be one of those sick bastards that reads e_v_e_r_y single solitary comment and try very hard to respond in one way or another when I'm commented to, and honestly, for more than one reason - but none of them 'dark' in any way or intent. Cheers friend !

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