Of course the GOP doesn't want to fix the broken immigration system. The fear of "others" is too valuable of a campaign issue for them. They need it to drive their voters to the polls.
Of course the GOP doesn't want to fix the broken immigration system. The fear of "others" is too valuable of a campaign issue for them. They need it to drive their voters to the polls.
You took the words out of my mouth, so to speak. About the only thing I could agree with GWB on was immigration reform that he tried to advance, but was shot down by his own party. There is no will to truly resolve this issue that keeps the GOP base rabidly motivated.
Well he certainly makes every effort to publicize the buses of immigrants he send to sactuary cities. But just to be sure he would win reelection he encouraged the passage of such measures as removing drop boxes. All of Harris County where Houston is had just one ballot drop box.
And the SoCal-SW AZ Winter Salad Bowl and citrus groves, Greg Abbott's TX citrus groves, and dairies, now. Then, in a few weeks all over the rest of CA, AZ, and NM. A few weeks later more will be required in rural areas over the entire Country.
Do we even need to mention restaurants, h/motels, and factories?
I was making a direct link between trafficking asylum-seekers for political points (DeSantis, Abbott) and extreme labor needs. TX and FL are absolutely in that mix. Have other similarly situated governors done the same thing?
You've read.... the Drumpf grandfather, a NYC barber who subsequently started opening bordellos in the Greater NW. He sold out his holdings in the last one in the Klondike 3 weeks before the strike ran out, and returned to his hometown Kallstadt (less than 20 miles as the raven flies from Castle Frankenstein. [you can't make this stuff up]) from where he had fled in 1885 to dodge the draft instituted for the newly unified Germany by Kaiser Bill of Prussia and Bismark.
A few years later, when about to marry Elisabeth Christ, announcements were published and some government official with a memory realized a draft dodger was about. Frederick was stripped of his German citizenship, so he and Elisabeth fled to New York City to avoid arrest - for the 2nd time... It happened, again.
Just as the GOP is in denial about global warming, the Dems are in denial about immigration. I say that has a lifelong Democrat who voted enthusiastically for Biden.
In 1980, meat packers were mostly Black workers, who were making good middle class wages. Immigration surged during that decade (and has been surging ever since). By the decade's end, meat packers were primarily immigrant workers, making barely above minimum wage under atrocious conditions (amputations were common).
The same thing had been happening since the first half of the 1800s, and is still happening, as reported in Back of the Hiring Line: A 200-Year History of Immigration Surges, Employer Bias, and Depression of Black Wealth, by Roy Beck ($13 on Amazon). The book is solid, covering the academic economic history, statements by Black leaders, beginning with Frederick Douglass, Black periodicals, and gov't commissions on immigration reform (296 footnotes). Only most recently, as per the book, white workers and long-term immigrant workers are also being displaced by the more easily exploitable new immigrants. Immigration is big biz' way of keeping wages down, or even depressing them. This is why the Koch org, and Z'berg, and big biz GOPers generally have been in favor of mass immigration.
From 1990-2020, the US grew by 83 million--equivalent to four NY States. Half of that was due to immigration. Going forward, the Census Bureau projects one NY State equivalent per decade over the next four--90% of that from immigration.
The other problem with mass immigration is that the US is environmentally unsustainable, and global warming is greatly worsening that situation. In the next 2-3 decades, millions of Americans will become climate refugees, according to an article by ProPublica in the NYT Mag. At this point, any further population growth is crazy.
Incidentally, what's broken about immigration is that it's out of control, and none of the "comprehensive immigration reform" bills ever included a national, mandatory E-Verify to prevent hiring of those here illegally. The Dems don't want that because they hope eventual citizenship will provide more Dem voters; GOPers do'nt want that because they like the cheap labor.
I think you are right inasmuch as the immigration causes are deeper than merely seeking US refuge and employment. As is true in the Global South world wide, climate and crime refugees are moving north out of desperation. I wish so much that we (the US) might join a coalition of nations for a mutual solution. I think UN refugee programs should be consulted and included. This is a WORLD WIDE PHENOMENON and it needs and deserves global input, and global solutions. At the very least let there be refugee camps and decent shelter, food distribution and medical care. Perhaps our Republican friends would finally allow a congressional contribution under the defense-of-our-nation rubric.
I've had the same thoughts. I think it would need to be done in conjunction with family planning for refugees, and for countries that are still growing. Africa, now nearly 1.5 billion, is projected to grow to 3 billion in a generation. If/when that happens, the megafauna will be virtually extinct, and ecosystem services on that continent will be decimated.
Agree with many of your points. Years ago, Mike MyersтАЩs character тАШJulia RichmondтАЩ on Saturday Night live had a favorite line тАШIтАЩll give you a topic, talk amongst yourself!тАЩ Channeling Julia тАШThe avaricious greed of rogue capitalistsтАЩ is a root cause of the world wide immigration tragedy!тАжtalk amongst yourself!
Both sides are to blame for not solving the immigration crisis. I agree with that100%.
I honestly don't think Dems support immigration because we see immigrants as new voters. In FY 2021 the median years spent as a lawful permanent resident for all citizens naturalized was 7.3 years. I wish could find a figure on what % never applies for citizenship. https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship-resource-center/naturalization-statistics
I think we're just more aware of the conditions they are escaping and admit we'd also flee if we were in their shoes.
Also, immigrants aren't necessarily a drag on society. I remember early in his administration Trump ordered Department of Health and Human Services to get him a report to show how much immigration was hurting us financially. Well, they came back with a report saying "that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost." Of course Trump promptly buried the report. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html
Half of the population growth from 1990-2020--40 million and change--was due to immigration. The housing crisis has gotten worse Traffic has gotten a lot worse since 1990 in my experience, both in Boston and DC, and in the highways that run between the two cities. Substantial virgin land and agricultural land has been lost to sprawl. Emergency rooms are a lot more crowded, and it takes a lot longer to be seen. And half a billion dollars annually that used to go to workers now goes to business owners. These are all costs to all of us that dwarf that $63 billion in allegedly lost gov't revenues. Which I doubt, because immigrants use more gov't help programs than Americans do.
And we need to have penalties, period, for companies that hire illegal immigrants. Their CEOs should go to jail. That would put a stop to the problem.
Cato institute тАЬ Promoting an American public policy based on individual liberty, limited government, free markets and peaceful international relations.тАЭ
Not an unbiased source! Libertarian propaganda machine! What are entitlement benefits? Another label by the capitalist class to demean the safety net developed to keep Americans who contributed to programs like social security!
After reading more of the Cato produced report, I stand by my previous description of their organization!
Buzz words coined by alleged conservative groupsтАжwelfareтАжentitlements!
The tax policies of Reagan and trump were welfare to millionaires and billionaires! No one uses that term in regard to that group of benefactors.
Entitlements?? Really whose more entitled than the heirs of the robber barons, the offspring of the hedge fund community or private equity greed creatures? An offspring of an Ivy League grad gets aтАЩlegacyтАЩ acceptance to the parents alma materтАж.note the term legacy which is another way of saying an entitlement!!
Words have consequences and those who will do anything to preserve raw, avaricious capitalism will also back people who organized the coup against our democracy!
Immigration тАШproblemтАЩ is a brush fire set and perpetuated so that the insidious undermining of our democracy by the Libertarian cabal goes unnoticed!
I am not a fan of the Cato group, either. That's why I find their study on immigrants so powerful. Even they say immigrants aren't a drain on our economy. If I quoted a liberal group quoting the exact same figures, it would be say to "well, they are liberals, pro-immigration, of course they would say that." But, Cato is to the right of many conservatives. So, for them to admit that immigrants aren't draining our economy is a big deal.
Exactly why I quoted Cato here. Maybe I should have added an "even" as in "even Cato Institute says...." It's strong because it's a statement against interest. Like Mitch McConnell calling Jan. 6: "a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election, from one administration to the next. " That's more powerful than Nancy Pelosi saying the very same thing.
A lot of this stuff is common sense. Immigration is responsible for half the population growth from 1990-2020, I hear about the housing crisis repeatedly on NPR, I experience all the traffic I'm writing about, there were a lot of articles in the NYT on immigration and the ER crisis in the 1990s, but after that, they avoided coverage of anything that put immigration in a negative light. (I emailed five different ombuds in the '10s, two of whom eventually responded, both saying that they were interested in covering my criticisms, only for me to find out from each within about six weeks of receiving notifiction of that interest that they were no longer ombuds at the NYT).
There were frequent articles in the NYt in the '90s on the plight of ERs due to immigration. Some time around 2010, I also had a long discussion with an ER doc from LA about how bad it was there.
"The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views....Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations....The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) published reports in 2002[44] and 2009[45] on John Tanton, who founded CIS. Tanton is a retired Michigan ophthalmologist who opposed immigration on racial grounds, desired a white ethnic majority in the United States and advocated for eugenics.[46][12][47] The SPLC's 2009 report charged that "FAIR, CIS and NumbersUSA are all part of a network of restrictionist organizations conceived and created by John Tanton" who they said had "deeply racist" views, and said that the group had "frequently manipulated data" in order to promote anti-immigration goals.[45] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies
The Center for Immigration Studies is not a hate group. The SPLC designates as hate groups some that are genuinely so but many that simply have political stances that SPLC dislikes. This is bulllshit that's designed to get the media and others to shun groups such as CIS. But CIS is the best source on immigration. Unfortunately, some, such as NPR, largely shun CIS.
Go on CIS' website and see if you can find any actual evidence of hate. SPLC focused on Tanton because they couldn't find any hate, and they had to find SOMETHING, however tenuous.
Would the National Academy of Sciences, the nation's premier scientific organization, have chosen CIS as an outside reviewer for their 2016 study on immigration if CIS were a genuine hate group?
And, by the way, CIS is not "anti-immigration." It is in favor of reducing immigration, but I challenge you to find anything on their website suggesting advocacy of ending immigration.
But some of their recent employees think poorly of their former employer.
Here's one of several recent articles on SPLC, this from the NYer:
From one of CIS' leading writers, Jerry Kammer's recent book (google him) Losing Control: How a Left-Right Coalition Blocked Immigration Reform and Provoked the Backlash That Elected Trump:
тАЬOne of the most glaring journalistic failures to scrutinize the [Southern Poverty Law Center] unfolded in early 2017, when Heidi Beirich announced that Hatewatch had designated the Center for Immigration Studies as a тАЬhate group,тАЭ wrote Kammer. тАЬThe breakdown was most evident in the work of two accomplished reporters, Joel Rose of NPR and Nicholas Kulish of the New York Times. Both reported the reputational assault on CIS as if it were the well-considered judgment of a responsible arbiter. Neither subjected it even to a rudimentary credibility checkтАжтАЭ
Kammer continued, recalling how the late Washington Post writer Murray Marder тАЬbroke away from the pack of reporters who spread the hysterical red-baiting accusations of Sen. Joseph McCarthy with тАЬThe press canтАЩt simply report flatfooted a smearing accusation against someoneтАЩs loyaltyтАж The press should ask the accuser, тАШwhat do you mean? What justification do you have?тАЩ ThatтАЩs real work, and itтАЩs called journalismтАжтАЭ
тАЬтАж There was no such skepticism in the work of Joel Rose, despite NPRтАЩs commitment, spelled out in the NPR Ethics Handbook, to тАЬrigorously challengeтАжthe claims that we encounterтАЭ and to тАЬtake special care with news that might cause grief or damage reputations.тАЭ
It's too bad Wikipedia is so sloppy with information that doesn't conform to the liberal viewpoint.
I agree strongly with you that management of companies that hire illegal immigrants should face severe penalties, like a couple of years in prison.
By the way, I'm a left wing Democrat from a family that has been left wing Democrat for a few generations. My great uncle was Philip Hornbein, a union lawyer who was de facto head of the Colorado Democratic Party for most of the first half of the last century, and who gave the speech at the '32 convention advocating an end to prohibition. His sister, my maternal grandmother, was probably the first female Coloradan to earn a PhD (1915), which she did on labor relations.
Out of college in the depression, my father worked for two years at a textile firm that he tried hard to unionize. Unfortunately, there was too much turnover.
My reasons for my position on immigration are both left wing Democratic reasons--the welfare of American workers, and the environment.
Yes (re Tanton), and President Obama remains in thrall to his long-ago preacher, Jeremiah Wright.
Did you read any of the dirt on the SPLC that I posted? Of course not!
Did you read where paraphrased from Back of the Hiring Line: A 200-Year History of Immigration Surges, Employer Bias, and Depression of Black Wealth? And how Blacks predominated in meat packing in 1980, earning good middle class wages, after decades of organizing themselves, and how, by 1990, immigrants predominated, earning barely above minimum wage, working under atrocious conditions?
Have you ever heard of Barbara Jordan, the Black Democrat from Texas who made her name on the House Watergate Committee? She ran a commission on immigration reform under Pres Clinton, and recommended cutting immigration numbers roughly in half, and strict enforcement of immigration laws. A big part of her rationale--the high rate of unemployment among Blacks.
I've heard Mark Krikorian (head of CIS) say he'd like to be able to support DACA. One problem is no-one has offered to end chain migration, or to greatly reduce immigration in return. I would happily support DACA if we could get something in return.
The Georgetown stuff is utter bullshit.
And environment is an important rationale for reducing immigration. the average immigrant's greenhouse emissions rise threefold after arrival in the US. Americans have the highest per capital greenhouse emissions in the world, along with a few small outlier countries like UAE and Belgium. And as I said before, but you seemed to ignore, in several decades millions of Americans are going to become climate refugees. I don't know if you have children or are thinking of having them, but you out to read this so you'll understand what they'd be up against:
As the offspring of "hard working German" and "Irish monkeys" immigrants, I recognize much of your historical perspective.
What else happened in the 1980s? St Ronny Raygun and his Union busting and his Tax Reform Act of 1986 and another in 1987. Over the next 10-15 years, the effect of those "Reforms" killed the MC and created another generation of American Artistocracy.
When the GOP stole the 2000 Election, W went with Mitch Daniels' plan in "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003". The only Citizens who enjoyed "Relief", again were the Upper 0.3%.
When Coroporate C-levels are incentivized to dramatically reduce Costs, Workers, Qualtiy, and the Country lose.
Now, of course, we have had heaped upon us, the Ryan-McConnell-tRUmp Tax Rape of 2017.
I disagree with "the US is environmentally unsustainable". But, we have to mend our Ways very quickly. I see in those at our Border with the US of Mexico, the post-Pandemic/QuadDemic solution to our Help Wanted problem in Ag, Service and Industry. But, centalized distribution of those immigrants would be necessary. The vast majority of them appear to be from beyond Mexico - and with some the Americas.
SCOTUS has once again (as in 2000) stuck its nose in were it does not belong.
I remember all those political disasters you recount and I agree completely about them.
But I stand by the fact that the US is unsustainable. I took environmental classes from John Holdren in 1975 (he later became Pres O's Science Advisor. I've written a lot about the environment since, that gives me perspective--concepts such as ecosystem services and carbon debt.
But even without all that, and the sheer explosion in our numbers, this one article in the NYT mag shoiiuld give you pause. Global warming is reducing Earth's and America's carrying capacity, and the latter is going to make millions of us climate refugees in the next 2-3 decades.
That's funny because most immigrants are Christians and escaping the horror of socialism. Most will register as republicans. Why else would Martha's Vineyard reject them? They are being stacked in Red states because they will turn a bue state purple.
Of course the GOP doesn't want to fix the broken immigration system. The fear of "others" is too valuable of a campaign issue for them. They need it to drive their voters to the polls.
You took the words out of my mouth, so to speak. About the only thing I could agree with GWB on was immigration reform that he tried to advance, but was shot down by his own party. There is no will to truly resolve this issue that keeps the GOP base rabidly motivated.
During ObamaтАЩs administration there was a bipartisan immigration bill Boehner refused to bring to the floor.
Rabidly.
Well he certainly makes every effort to publicize the buses of immigrants he send to sactuary cities. But just to be sure he would win reelection he encouraged the passage of such measures as removing drop boxes. All of Harris County where Houston is had just one ballot drop box.
Even though their financial supporters need the workers. I believe that is biting off your nose to spite your face?
Especially in the Florida orange groves!
And the SoCal-SW AZ Winter Salad Bowl and citrus groves, Greg Abbott's TX citrus groves, and dairies, now. Then, in a few weeks all over the rest of CA, AZ, and NM. A few weeks later more will be required in rural areas over the entire Country.
Do we even need to mention restaurants, h/motels, and factories?
The shortage is immense and wide-spread.
Yes indeed, and donтАЩt forget construction trades.
Construction trades! Indeed, new sub divisions in the Raleigh NC area would NOT have been built without immigrant labor!
The recovery from the hurricanes in Florida could proceed so much faster with more workers.
Shortage creates higher prices to the public so that growers don't lose any money....and maybe make more!
Totally agree!!
I was making a direct link between trafficking asylum-seekers for political points (DeSantis, Abbott) and extreme labor needs. TX and FL are absolutely in that mix. Have other similarly situated governors done the same thing?
There are actually hispanic bankers, lawyers and even Congressmen! Right now, in the 20th century?
The nerve of them dropping their mops and brooms for the root of all evil!
Gee? Labor shortage in US? Wonder why? Perhaps 45тАЩs assault on immigrants helped!
Along with his refusal to take SARS-CoV-2 seriously. He kept thinking flu not being Smart enough to realize H1N1 was the cause of the 1918 Pandemic.
His grandfather died within 24 hours of coming down with the "Spanish flu."
You've read.... the Drumpf grandfather, a NYC barber who subsequently started opening bordellos in the Greater NW. He sold out his holdings in the last one in the Klondike 3 weeks before the strike ran out, and returned to his hometown Kallstadt (less than 20 miles as the raven flies from Castle Frankenstein. [you can't make this stuff up]) from where he had fled in 1885 to dodge the draft instituted for the newly unified Germany by Kaiser Bill of Prussia and Bismark.
A few years later, when about to marry Elisabeth Christ, announcements were published and some government official with a memory realized a draft dodger was about. Frederick was stripped of his German citizenship, so he and Elisabeth fled to New York City to avoid arrest - for the 2nd time... It happened, again.
Such a distinguished family tree. ;)
Yet he confessed to Woodward that covid was very serious. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/10/911368698/trump-tells-woodward-he-deliberately-downplayed-coronavirus-threat
The Alternate Reality of Donald J tRUmp...
Just as the GOP is in denial about global warming, the Dems are in denial about immigration. I say that has a lifelong Democrat who voted enthusiastically for Biden.
In 1980, meat packers were mostly Black workers, who were making good middle class wages. Immigration surged during that decade (and has been surging ever since). By the decade's end, meat packers were primarily immigrant workers, making barely above minimum wage under atrocious conditions (amputations were common).
The same thing had been happening since the first half of the 1800s, and is still happening, as reported in Back of the Hiring Line: A 200-Year History of Immigration Surges, Employer Bias, and Depression of Black Wealth, by Roy Beck ($13 on Amazon). The book is solid, covering the academic economic history, statements by Black leaders, beginning with Frederick Douglass, Black periodicals, and gov't commissions on immigration reform (296 footnotes). Only most recently, as per the book, white workers and long-term immigrant workers are also being displaced by the more easily exploitable new immigrants. Immigration is big biz' way of keeping wages down, or even depressing them. This is why the Koch org, and Z'berg, and big biz GOPers generally have been in favor of mass immigration.
From 1990-2020, the US grew by 83 million--equivalent to four NY States. Half of that was due to immigration. Going forward, the Census Bureau projects one NY State equivalent per decade over the next four--90% of that from immigration.
The other problem with mass immigration is that the US is environmentally unsustainable, and global warming is greatly worsening that situation. In the next 2-3 decades, millions of Americans will become climate refugees, according to an article by ProPublica in the NYT Mag. At this point, any further population growth is crazy.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/15/magazine/climate-crisis-migration-america.html
Incidentally, what's broken about immigration is that it's out of control, and none of the "comprehensive immigration reform" bills ever included a national, mandatory E-Verify to prevent hiring of those here illegally. The Dems don't want that because they hope eventual citizenship will provide more Dem voters; GOPers do'nt want that because they like the cheap labor.
I think you are right inasmuch as the immigration causes are deeper than merely seeking US refuge and employment. As is true in the Global South world wide, climate and crime refugees are moving north out of desperation. I wish so much that we (the US) might join a coalition of nations for a mutual solution. I think UN refugee programs should be consulted and included. This is a WORLD WIDE PHENOMENON and it needs and deserves global input, and global solutions. At the very least let there be refugee camps and decent shelter, food distribution and medical care. Perhaps our Republican friends would finally allow a congressional contribution under the defense-of-our-nation rubric.
I've had the same thoughts. I think it would need to be done in conjunction with family planning for refugees, and for countries that are still growing. Africa, now nearly 1.5 billion, is projected to grow to 3 billion in a generation. If/when that happens, the megafauna will be virtually extinct, and ecosystem services on that continent will be decimated.
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2019/09/27/what-are-ecosystem-services-and-how-do-they-help-our-planet/
Agree with many of your points. Years ago, Mike MyersтАЩs character тАШJulia RichmondтАЩ on Saturday Night live had a favorite line тАШIтАЩll give you a topic, talk amongst yourself!тАЩ Channeling Julia тАШThe avaricious greed of rogue capitalistsтАЩ is a root cause of the world wide immigration tragedy!тАжtalk amongst yourself!
Both sides are to blame for not solving the immigration crisis. I agree with that100%.
I honestly don't think Dems support immigration because we see immigrants as new voters. In FY 2021 the median years spent as a lawful permanent resident for all citizens naturalized was 7.3 years. I wish could find a figure on what % never applies for citizenship. https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship-resource-center/naturalization-statistics
I think we're just more aware of the conditions they are escaping and admit we'd also flee if we were in their shoes.
IMHO we need to make penalties much stronger on the companies that hire immigrants without papers. As far as I can tell the big poultry cases from a few years ago only indicted four people from management. https://www.al.com/news/2020/11/mississippi-chicken-processing-plants-to-pay-back-wages-after-immigration-raids.html
Also, immigrants aren't necessarily a drag on society. I remember early in his administration Trump ordered Department of Health and Human Services to get him a report to show how much immigration was hurting us financially. Well, they came back with a report saying "that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost." Of course Trump promptly buried the report. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html
Half of the population growth from 1990-2020--40 million and change--was due to immigration. The housing crisis has gotten worse Traffic has gotten a lot worse since 1990 in my experience, both in Boston and DC, and in the highways that run between the two cities. Substantial virgin land and agricultural land has been lost to sprawl. Emergency rooms are a lot more crowded, and it takes a lot longer to be seen. And half a billion dollars annually that used to go to workers now goes to business owners. These are all costs to all of us that dwarf that $63 billion in allegedly lost gov't revenues. Which I doubt, because immigrants use more gov't help programs than Americans do.
And we need to have penalties, period, for companies that hire illegal immigrants. Their CEOs should go to jail. That would put a stop to the problem.
This is when I like to throw in a list of companies started by immigrants. https://stacker.com/business-economy/successful-us-companies-started-immigrants I also like to mention that the children of immigrants (the first generation born here) are more successful than native-born Americans. There are lots of studies on this. They are nearly twice as likely to become rich as the children of people born in the United States. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/07/11/opinion/immigrants-success-america.html
The Cato Institute says "immigrants consume 28 percent less welfare and entitlement benefits than nativeтАРтАЛborn Americans on a per capita basis." https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consumption-means-tested-welfare-entitlement-benefits-2019
Cato institute тАЬ Promoting an American public policy based on individual liberty, limited government, free markets and peaceful international relations.тАЭ
Not an unbiased source! Libertarian propaganda machine! What are entitlement benefits? Another label by the capitalist class to demean the safety net developed to keep Americans who contributed to programs like social security!
After reading more of the Cato produced report, I stand by my previous description of their organization!
Buzz words coined by alleged conservative groupsтАжwelfareтАжentitlements!
The tax policies of Reagan and trump were welfare to millionaires and billionaires! No one uses that term in regard to that group of benefactors.
Entitlements?? Really whose more entitled than the heirs of the robber barons, the offspring of the hedge fund community or private equity greed creatures? An offspring of an Ivy League grad gets aтАЩlegacyтАЩ acceptance to the parents alma materтАж.note the term legacy which is another way of saying an entitlement!!
Words have consequences and those who will do anything to preserve raw, avaricious capitalism will also back people who organized the coup against our democracy!
Immigration тАШproblemтАЩ is a brush fire set and perpetuated so that the insidious undermining of our democracy by the Libertarian cabal goes unnoticed!
I am not a fan of the Cato group, either. That's why I find their study on immigrants so powerful. Even they say immigrants aren't a drain on our economy. If I quoted a liberal group quoting the exact same figures, it would be say to "well, they are liberals, pro-immigration, of course they would say that." But, Cato is to the right of many conservatives. So, for them to admit that immigrants aren't draining our economy is a big deal.
Libertarians don't believe in borders.
Exactly why I quoted Cato here. Maybe I should have added an "even" as in "even Cato Institute says...." It's strong because it's a statement against interest. Like Mitch McConnell calling Jan. 6: "a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election, from one administration to the next. " That's more powerful than Nancy Pelosi saying the very same thing.
Can you share the citations to studies that say all these things are immigrants' fault?
A lot of this stuff is common sense. Immigration is responsible for half the population growth from 1990-2020, I hear about the housing crisis repeatedly on NPR, I experience all the traffic I'm writing about, there were a lot of articles in the NYT on immigration and the ER crisis in the 1990s, but after that, they avoided coverage of anything that put immigration in a negative light. (I emailed five different ombuds in the '10s, two of whom eventually responded, both saying that they were interested in covering my criticisms, only for me to find out from each within about six weeks of receiving notifiction of that interest that they were no longer ombuds at the NYT).
There were frequent articles in the NYt in the '90s on the plight of ERs due to immigration. Some time around 2010, I also had a long discussion with an ER doc from LA about how bad it was there.
But here are some useful citations:
https://cis.org/Richwine/States-Must-Pay-Health-and-Education-Benefits-Illegal-Immigrant-Families
https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs
https://cis.org/Panel-Transcript-Immigrations-Impact-Health-Care-Reform
"The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views....Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations....The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) published reports in 2002[44] and 2009[45] on John Tanton, who founded CIS. Tanton is a retired Michigan ophthalmologist who opposed immigration on racial grounds, desired a white ethnic majority in the United States and advocated for eugenics.[46][12][47] The SPLC's 2009 report charged that "FAIR, CIS and NumbersUSA are all part of a network of restrictionist organizations conceived and created by John Tanton" who they said had "deeply racist" views, and said that the group had "frequently manipulated data" in order to promote anti-immigration goals.[45] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies
The Center for Immigration Studies is not a hate group. The SPLC designates as hate groups some that are genuinely so but many that simply have political stances that SPLC dislikes. This is bulllshit that's designed to get the media and others to shun groups such as CIS. But CIS is the best source on immigration. Unfortunately, some, such as NPR, largely shun CIS.
Go on CIS' website and see if you can find any actual evidence of hate. SPLC focused on Tanton because they couldn't find any hate, and they had to find SOMETHING, however tenuous.
Would the National Academy of Sciences, the nation's premier scientific organization, have chosen CIS as an outside reviewer for their 2016 study on immigration if CIS were a genuine hate group?
And, by the way, CIS is not "anti-immigration." It is in favor of reducing immigration, but I challenge you to find anything on their website suggesting advocacy of ending immigration.
But some of their recent employees think poorly of their former employer.
Here's one of several recent articles on SPLC, this from the NYer:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center
And here's a much older article, from the left wing Nation, highly critical ofSPLC
https://www.thenation.com/article/king-hate-business/
From one of CIS' leading writers, Jerry Kammer's recent book (google him) Losing Control: How a Left-Right Coalition Blocked Immigration Reform and Provoked the Backlash That Elected Trump:
тАЬOne of the most glaring journalistic failures to scrutinize the [Southern Poverty Law Center] unfolded in early 2017, when Heidi Beirich announced that Hatewatch had designated the Center for Immigration Studies as a тАЬhate group,тАЭ wrote Kammer. тАЬThe breakdown was most evident in the work of two accomplished reporters, Joel Rose of NPR and Nicholas Kulish of the New York Times. Both reported the reputational assault on CIS as if it were the well-considered judgment of a responsible arbiter. Neither subjected it even to a rudimentary credibility checkтАжтАЭ
Kammer continued, recalling how the late Washington Post writer Murray Marder тАЬbroke away from the pack of reporters who spread the hysterical red-baiting accusations of Sen. Joseph McCarthy with тАЬThe press canтАЩt simply report flatfooted a smearing accusation against someoneтАЩs loyaltyтАж The press should ask the accuser, тАШwhat do you mean? What justification do you have?тАЩ ThatтАЩs real work, and itтАЩs called journalismтАжтАЭ
тАЬтАж There was no such skepticism in the work of Joel Rose, despite NPRтАЩs commitment, spelled out in the NPR Ethics Handbook, to тАЬrigorously challengeтАжthe claims that we encounterтАЭ and to тАЬtake special care with news that might cause grief or damage reputations.тАЭ
It's too bad Wikipedia is so sloppy with information that doesn't conform to the liberal viewpoint.
I agree strongly with you that management of companies that hire illegal immigrants should face severe penalties, like a couple of years in prison.
By the way, I'm a left wing Democrat from a family that has been left wing Democrat for a few generations. My great uncle was Philip Hornbein, a union lawyer who was de facto head of the Colorado Democratic Party for most of the first half of the last century, and who gave the speech at the '32 convention advocating an end to prohibition. His sister, my maternal grandmother, was probably the first female Coloradan to earn a PhD (1915), which she did on labor relations.
Out of college in the depression, my father worked for two years at a textile firm that he tried hard to unionize. Unfortunately, there was too much turnover.
My reasons for my position on immigration are both left wing Democratic reasons--the welfare of American workers, and the environment.
https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-center-for-immigration-studies-cis/
Yes (re Tanton), and President Obama remains in thrall to his long-ago preacher, Jeremiah Wright.
Did you read any of the dirt on the SPLC that I posted? Of course not!
Did you read where paraphrased from Back of the Hiring Line: A 200-Year History of Immigration Surges, Employer Bias, and Depression of Black Wealth? And how Blacks predominated in meat packing in 1980, earning good middle class wages, after decades of organizing themselves, and how, by 1990, immigrants predominated, earning barely above minimum wage, working under atrocious conditions?
Have you ever heard of Barbara Jordan, the Black Democrat from Texas who made her name on the House Watergate Committee? She ran a commission on immigration reform under Pres Clinton, and recommended cutting immigration numbers roughly in half, and strict enforcement of immigration laws. A big part of her rationale--the high rate of unemployment among Blacks.
I've heard Mark Krikorian (head of CIS) say he'd like to be able to support DACA. One problem is no-one has offered to end chain migration, or to greatly reduce immigration in return. I would happily support DACA if we could get something in return.
The Georgetown stuff is utter bullshit.
And environment is an important rationale for reducing immigration. the average immigrant's greenhouse emissions rise threefold after arrival in the US. Americans have the highest per capital greenhouse emissions in the world, along with a few small outlier countries like UAE and Belgium. And as I said before, but you seemed to ignore, in several decades millions of Americans are going to become climate refugees. I don't know if you have children or are thinking of having them, but you out to read this so you'll understand what they'd be up against:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/15/magazine/climate-crisis-migration-america.html
Brava Michelle! Georgetown report does not mince words! Also, Hoyas are not known as a bastion of liberal bias!
The Georgetown thing is garbage. Read wht I just posted in response to that link. I've been following immigration closely for the last 25 years.
As the offspring of "hard working German" and "Irish monkeys" immigrants, I recognize much of your historical perspective.
What else happened in the 1980s? St Ronny Raygun and his Union busting and his Tax Reform Act of 1986 and another in 1987. Over the next 10-15 years, the effect of those "Reforms" killed the MC and created another generation of American Artistocracy.
When the GOP stole the 2000 Election, W went with Mitch Daniels' plan in "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003". The only Citizens who enjoyed "Relief", again were the Upper 0.3%.
When Coroporate C-levels are incentivized to dramatically reduce Costs, Workers, Qualtiy, and the Country lose.
Now, of course, we have had heaped upon us, the Ryan-McConnell-tRUmp Tax Rape of 2017.
I disagree with "the US is environmentally unsustainable". But, we have to mend our Ways very quickly. I see in those at our Border with the US of Mexico, the post-Pandemic/QuadDemic solution to our Help Wanted problem in Ag, Service and Industry. But, centalized distribution of those immigrants would be necessary. The vast majority of them appear to be from beyond Mexico - and with some the Americas.
SCOTUS has once again (as in 2000) stuck its nose in were it does not belong.
I remember all those political disasters you recount and I agree completely about them.
But I stand by the fact that the US is unsustainable. I took environmental classes from John Holdren in 1975 (he later became Pres O's Science Advisor. I've written a lot about the environment since, that gives me perspective--concepts such as ecosystem services and carbon debt.
But even without all that, and the sheer explosion in our numbers, this one article in the NYT mag shoiiuld give you pause. Global warming is reducing Earth's and America's carrying capacity, and the latter is going to make millions of us climate refugees in the next 2-3 decades.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/15/magazine/climate-crisis-migration-america.html
That's funny because most immigrants are Christians and escaping the horror of socialism. Most will register as republicans. Why else would Martha's Vineyard reject them? They are being stacked in Red states because they will turn a bue state purple.
Blue states are by far the more racist.
Exactly right.