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Kari's avatar

Heather,

Your 4 PM (ET) talk today was fascinating. I was taken with your explanation of why it’s incredibly difficult for followers of a deceitful leader to disengage from that person, especially after joining them in marginalizing and being hateful and hurtful to other humans. If followers did break away, they would be wracked with guilt and regret.

I looked up Eric Hoffer, described as an American moral and social philosopher, and found this:

https://reasonandmeaning.com/2017/09/04/summary-of-eric-hoffers-the-true-believer/

“Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all the unifying agents … Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without a belief in a devil.” ~ Eric Hoffer, The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

“Hoffer states that three personality types typically lead mass movements: “men of words”, “fanatics”, and “practical men of action.” Men of words try to “discredit the prevailing creeds” and create a “hunger for faith” which is then fed by “doctrines and slogans of the new faith.” (p. 140) Slowly followers emerge.

Then fanatics take over. Fanatics don’t find solace in literature, philosophy, or art. Instead, they are characterized by viciousness, the urge to destroy, and the perpetual struggle for power. But after mass movements transform the social order, the insecurity of their followers is not ameliorated. At this point, the “practical men of action” take over and try to lead the new order by further controlling their followers.

In the end mass movements that succeed often bring about a social order worse than the previous one. (This was one of Will Durant’s findings in The Lessons of History.) As Hoffer puts it near the end of his work: “All mass movements … irrespective of the doctrine they preach and the program they project, breed fanaticism, enthusiasm, fervent hope, hatred, and intolerance.” (p. 141)”

This connects to your explanation of today. Is this what we’ve been truly witnessing over the last years? Where does this “movement” go from here?

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Patrick Munson MI's avatar

I don’t have a twitter account, as I don’t believe any truth can be compressed into a sound bite or a tweet.

Yet, I do wish something would go viral on the state of affairs at the top of our sad country. I remember countless times late in the night of what ever ED I was attending when an addict would present in crisis and his family and friends would gather round insisting he “is just depressed,” his “outlandish behavior is not usual” his “violence is just because…” At times it seemed that the surrounding co-dependents were worse than the addict.

Yes, Trump is after cash. Yes, he is after attention. Yes, his still amazingly huge numbers of followers are still enthralled in his delusion. But we as a country don’t have to swallow it.

This is power addiction. If it could be called out as such and the topic could become at least part of the story I would feel that, at least, we are doing our jobs as citizens.

Sadly, I have not personally cultivated a voice loud enough to make that happen.

Sorry if my tone is too much or inappropriate for this venue. It is frustrating to watch this continue to happen.

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