"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." Pres. G.W. Bush, White House Correspondents' Dinner, 3/31/2001.
John, it never occurred to me until now that your intellectual assessment of a fact situation could be so influenced by feelings. I guess it goes to prove simply that you are…
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." Pres. G.W. Bush, White House Correspondents' Dinner, 3/31/2001.
John, it never occurred to me until now that your intellectual assessment of a fact situation could be so influenced by feelings. I guess it goes to prove simply that you are human, too. For me, I'm not certain that the sun rises in the east, but I have no doubt but that Trump knew, beyond any doubt, that he had lost the 2020 election. Trump isn't the sharpest tack in the board, but he's not that dull.
Richard Sutherland, perhaps it would be better to hear me out before jumping to half-cocked conclusions about where I'm coming from. As time permits, I'll be responding to lin's post at:
Respectfully, John, you wrote: " HCR continues to peddle the groundless and baseless partisan propaganda insinuation that Trump knew that his accusations of election fraud were false."
There is absolutely no defense to this piece of "baseless partisan propaganda" on your part. None. I will rest my case. You have destroyed your credibility as an objective observer. You've exposed yourself. Did you have an irrestible impulse? Must have.
Saying so doesn't make it true, and doing the huff-and-puff without any reasoning doesn't improve your argument. If you want, you can hear me out on the other thread and then critique my case after I've made it.
John, the instances are somewhat rare when there is absolutely no doubt about the truth of a matter. Your claim about HCR's indictment of Trump as being anything other than dead right is beyond any doubt a totally and completely partisan claim. So, the question is: why? You're obviously not stupid. So, there's another reason. There are bright people who are MAGA Republicans. I have earlier made reference to the study conducted by two Univ. of Kansas professors entitled "The Anger Games, Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election, and Why?" Why would an intelligent American support a known serial liar, a cheat in business and in his personal affairs, a man who tried to topple the lawful government of the U.S.? Why? Because he represents something more important to them than even the continued democratic system in the United States. How serious could those matters be that the lives of more than 1.3 million who have died fighting our wars to preserve our constitutional rights mean nothing to them? I think that I have at least an idea.
John, let's compare apples to apples. Your statement about HCR lacking proof of Trump's attempt to overthrow the government stands alone. Do you doubt that Trump's actions and intent was to circumvent the election process through his machinations and those of his confederates?
John, when I see you having difficult with this fact, it reminds me of another super bright person, Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D., co-chair of the Human Genome Project. If anyone in this world should understand DNA and its origins, it would be Collins. He knows that all living things on earth share the same DNA - plants, animals, insects, etc., all coming down from LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) that existed about 3.5 billion years ago. There was no "Adam and Eve." Still, knowing that, Collins is a fundamentalist Christian. Why? What is it that causes him to reject the obvious science in favor of a fantastic notion about our existence, or, our future? As to Trump, white Nationalism is the dominant force and when it comes down to democracy or power, white Christian Nationalism will choose power every time. It completely subverts Christian morality.
Um, I have to consider the possibility that you are rambling.
Do you think that the mob that rioted at the capitol building on Jan. 6 had the power to "overthrow the government"?
I remember reading, in a 2007 magazine interview, that Trump said that he refused to consider joining a South Carolina golf course because they wouldn't allow Blacks and Jews as members.
And then the centrist Trump put himself at the head of the conservatives and got into the White House, and after that the centrist Biden put himself at the head of the liberals and got into the White House.
John, William F. Buckley, Jr., a Conservative, is dead and gone. There are no more Conservatives today. Terms mean something. Trump heads the white Christian Nationalists. They have no agenda except to exercise power over everyone else. Essentially, we're dealing with Fascism, no Conservatism.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." Pres. G.W. Bush, White House Correspondents' Dinner, 3/31/2001.
John, it never occurred to me until now that your intellectual assessment of a fact situation could be so influenced by feelings. I guess it goes to prove simply that you are human, too. For me, I'm not certain that the sun rises in the east, but I have no doubt but that Trump knew, beyond any doubt, that he had lost the 2020 election. Trump isn't the sharpest tack in the board, but he's not that dull.
Richard Sutherland, perhaps it would be better to hear me out before jumping to half-cocked conclusions about where I'm coming from. As time permits, I'll be responding to lin's post at:
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-9-2023/comment/22147663
Respectfully, John, you wrote: " HCR continues to peddle the groundless and baseless partisan propaganda insinuation that Trump knew that his accusations of election fraud were false."
There is absolutely no defense to this piece of "baseless partisan propaganda" on your part. None. I will rest my case. You have destroyed your credibility as an objective observer. You've exposed yourself. Did you have an irrestible impulse? Must have.
Saying so doesn't make it true, and doing the huff-and-puff without any reasoning doesn't improve your argument. If you want, you can hear me out on the other thread and then critique my case after I've made it.
I chose my words carefully, and I stand by them.
John, the instances are somewhat rare when there is absolutely no doubt about the truth of a matter. Your claim about HCR's indictment of Trump as being anything other than dead right is beyond any doubt a totally and completely partisan claim. So, the question is: why? You're obviously not stupid. So, there's another reason. There are bright people who are MAGA Republicans. I have earlier made reference to the study conducted by two Univ. of Kansas professors entitled "The Anger Games, Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election, and Why?" Why would an intelligent American support a known serial liar, a cheat in business and in his personal affairs, a man who tried to topple the lawful government of the U.S.? Why? Because he represents something more important to them than even the continued democratic system in the United States. How serious could those matters be that the lives of more than 1.3 million who have died fighting our wars to preserve our constitutional rights mean nothing to them? I think that I have at least an idea.
Richard, perhaps I should have said evidence-free huff-and-puff: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5CMtZs3GVQI&feature=share9
I caught HCR misrepresenting a source, and you come along to support your friend.
John, let's compare apples to apples. Your statement about HCR lacking proof of Trump's attempt to overthrow the government stands alone. Do you doubt that Trump's actions and intent was to circumvent the election process through his machinations and those of his confederates?
"Overthrow the government"??
John, when I see you having difficult with this fact, it reminds me of another super bright person, Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D., co-chair of the Human Genome Project. If anyone in this world should understand DNA and its origins, it would be Collins. He knows that all living things on earth share the same DNA - plants, animals, insects, etc., all coming down from LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) that existed about 3.5 billion years ago. There was no "Adam and Eve." Still, knowing that, Collins is a fundamentalist Christian. Why? What is it that causes him to reject the obvious science in favor of a fantastic notion about our existence, or, our future? As to Trump, white Nationalism is the dominant force and when it comes down to democracy or power, white Christian Nationalism will choose power every time. It completely subverts Christian morality.
Um, I have to consider the possibility that you are rambling.
Do you think that the mob that rioted at the capitol building on Jan. 6 had the power to "overthrow the government"?
I remember reading, in a 2007 magazine interview, that Trump said that he refused to consider joining a South Carolina golf course because they wouldn't allow Blacks and Jews as members.
And then the centrist Trump put himself at the head of the conservatives and got into the White House, and after that the centrist Biden put himself at the head of the liberals and got into the White House.
John, William F. Buckley, Jr., a Conservative, is dead and gone. There are no more Conservatives today. Terms mean something. Trump heads the white Christian Nationalists. They have no agenda except to exercise power over everyone else. Essentially, we're dealing with Fascism, no Conservatism.