Zella I wonder how evangelical ‘Christians’ relate the ‘immaculate conception’ to the ‘immaculate emasculation.’ I hope that this would prick their consciences.
Zella I wonder how evangelical ‘Christians’ relate the ‘immaculate conception’ to the ‘immaculate emasculation.’ I hope that this would prick their consciences.
Hi Keith, I get your point and totally agree with it! One little niggling issue that is more about theological accuracy ......"immaculate conception" actually refers to Mary herself being conceived without sin ( presumably to be a worthy "God-bearer [Theotokos].)
"Virgin birth" is what you want here. Even evangelical Catholics get these confused!...... Sorry, don't want to come across like the theology police ( do have a PhD in it for whatever that is worth) but your point is a good one and you may as well have the most potent terms at hand. Thank you. All the best!
Carol Congrats on obtaining your PhD! When I was at UPenn, my book NASSER’S NEW EGYPT: A CRITICAL ANALYSIS (1960, NEW YORK, LONDON) was accepted as my dissertation and I would be given credit for teaching several courses together with a ‘customized’ book program for my PhD, but I chose the Foreign Service and the tranquility of Congo (1960-1966).
As history professor (1992-2013) for many years I taught SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EARLY JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, AND ISLAM. On the New Testament, I relied heavily on Bart Ehrman, a true authority at the U. Of NC. Recently, I watched his new DVD on Jesus becoming ‘god.’ He skipped over the ‘immaculate conception.’
He made a strong historical presentation on why the body of Jesus could not have been placed in a tomb and, thus, the story of his resurrection was not historically accurate.
In my comments on LFAA I have a tendency to be cavalier rather than scholarly. Regarding the ‘immaculate conception,’ several of my students had professed a similar experience.
At the last church I joined, I first told the minister that I was puzzled by the “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” Happily, he stated that he would not pursue this issue. So what about the Holy Ghost (who subsequently became the Holy Spirit)? My historical impression was that this was declared at Nicaea in 325 as part of a series of resolutions that, in part, were intended to kill a distinct ‘Christian’ movement.
I find that faith is often distinct from historical assessment, since faith requires no factual proof.
Some of my family are now celebrating Passover. I find the story of Moses fascinating, even if it was written about 400 years after his presumed existence.
Zella I wonder how evangelical ‘Christians’ relate the ‘immaculate conception’ to the ‘immaculate emasculation.’ I hope that this would prick their consciences.
Hi Keith, I get your point and totally agree with it! One little niggling issue that is more about theological accuracy ......"immaculate conception" actually refers to Mary herself being conceived without sin ( presumably to be a worthy "God-bearer [Theotokos].)
"Virgin birth" is what you want here. Even evangelical Catholics get these confused!...... Sorry, don't want to come across like the theology police ( do have a PhD in it for whatever that is worth) but your point is a good one and you may as well have the most potent terms at hand. Thank you. All the best!
This is my third revision of a comment I wrote yesterday in this spot.
The children in the USA -- children of all ages -- are waiting for Congress to solve the gun problem.
Until Congress solves the gun problem, they should be held responsible for all children, of all ages, who are harmed by guns.
If Congress fails to act, they are culpable
Carol Congrats on obtaining your PhD! When I was at UPenn, my book NASSER’S NEW EGYPT: A CRITICAL ANALYSIS (1960, NEW YORK, LONDON) was accepted as my dissertation and I would be given credit for teaching several courses together with a ‘customized’ book program for my PhD, but I chose the Foreign Service and the tranquility of Congo (1960-1966).
As history professor (1992-2013) for many years I taught SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EARLY JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, AND ISLAM. On the New Testament, I relied heavily on Bart Ehrman, a true authority at the U. Of NC. Recently, I watched his new DVD on Jesus becoming ‘god.’ He skipped over the ‘immaculate conception.’
He made a strong historical presentation on why the body of Jesus could not have been placed in a tomb and, thus, the story of his resurrection was not historically accurate.
In my comments on LFAA I have a tendency to be cavalier rather than scholarly. Regarding the ‘immaculate conception,’ several of my students had professed a similar experience.
At the last church I joined, I first told the minister that I was puzzled by the “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” Happily, he stated that he would not pursue this issue. So what about the Holy Ghost (who subsequently became the Holy Spirit)? My historical impression was that this was declared at Nicaea in 325 as part of a series of resolutions that, in part, were intended to kill a distinct ‘Christian’ movement.
I find that faith is often distinct from historical assessment, since faith requires no factual proof.
Some of my family are now celebrating Passover. I find the story of Moses fascinating, even if it was written about 400 years after his presumed existence.
Happy Easter.
Evangelical CATHOLICS ? That's a new ( relatively ) factor, at least to me.