Yes, I agree, which was the point I was hoping to make. If logical consistency were important to them, they would either drop their insistence on banning abortion in favor of Guns For All -- or they would decide it's a good idea to lock up ALL OF THE GUNS for the sake of the children.
Yes, I agree, which was the point I was hoping to make. If logical consistency were important to them, they would either drop their insistence on banning abortion in favor of Guns For All -- or they would decide it's a good idea to lock up ALL OF THE GUNS for the sake of the children.
Logic, to them, is like Kryptonite to Superman or holy water, garlic & sunlight to Dracula. They have their own crackhead logic that only they understand.
I enjoy science fiction, and speculative fiction. This current version of "adult consensus reality" reads like sci-fi. I think we could spin it into a pretty good yarn. No time travel, though. When we treat these bizzaro characters -- eg mtg -- as characters in a fictional tale, it makes it much easier to talk about it. Implausibility doesn't matter anymore because it's fiction. In a fictional tale we could actually talk about locking up all of the guns. And we could rewrite District of Columbia v. Heller for Justice Scalia, and bring the first clause back into contention, "...A well-regulated militia..." Then we could say "Want to own a gun? Join the National Guard -- if they'll have you."
Well-regulated militiaтАжBoy, IтАЩve been screaming that from the rooftops! If there are no gun regulations to cramp gun ownersтАЩ style, where does the тАЬWell-regulatedтАЭ part fit in?
"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;" - US Constitution, Section 8
Back in the day, the militias were formed by men who brought their own firearms. Nowadays I'm pretty sure anything like the National Guard provides the actual firepower.
I sure hope one day we'll have a SCOTUS that can correct the travesty of the current 2nd Amendment interpretation.
There's nothing wrong with these types of people that lots of drugs, ECT & perhaps a lobotomy wouldn't remedy, possibly. These are the same people who said that " The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat ". Hate is a VIRTUE to them.
I'm sure you don't mean people whose politics we disagree with should be involuntarily drugged or lobotmized. If so, there's a sizable dose of virtuous hate in your comment
We are quite close to the old tradition of human sacrifice to please and appease the gods. We just have to institutionalize it: provide тАЬundesirableтАЭ humans including, of course, children, to the shooters who worship the Second Amendment. Become a country that stands up for its rights without all the unpredictable chaos.
That scenario isnтАЩt fiction. It just happened in the same Tennessee legislature highlighted in todayтАЩs letter. White officials expelling two elected legislators from the legislature. And a third, who is white, is not expelled, merely censured. For disorderly behavior and bringing dishonor to the house. The Tennessee Three. Having a voice. All in plain site. What was the purpose of the protest? Gun control laws, children, banning military weapons. And after a judge loosened Tennessee gun laws. After six people In Nashville, including three nine year olds, were killed in a Christian school. A Christian School. Dishonor and protest on the floor. Sounds like next is a duel. Backwards Time Machines for sale in red states.
Yes. And I left out in this late post, the critical factor: the expelled legislators are Black. We might have known even without that detail. We are two countries. Not united.
Rep. Gloria Johnson called out the discrepancy. From a Twitter post about this issue "Reporter asks Rep. Gloria Johnson why she thinks there was a difference between her outcome and Rep. Justin Jones"
Rep Johnson: "I'll answer your question; it might have to do with the color of our skin."
I, we all!, expected Hillary to win in 2016. I thought, well good, more will be done about the G. D. racism. Most unacceptable situation in America has...No excuse for it.
Look where we are now! On top of BLM...which is not a statement but a goal...now we know this for sure: Women's Lives Don't Matter!
AKA: Lies. The plutocrats, who despise "the little people" may flatter themselves a la Trump, but I think they know when they are lying. It may be "alternate facts", doublethink. and word-Greene-salad, but there is method to the madness, and its all about power; the power of money, the power of position, and the power of violence.
Rational people usually don't shoot other people or smash their craniums, etc., about differences or suspected differences. I read about Pol Pot's " Killing Fields " where the Khmer Rouge would shoot people wearing glasses on the mistaken belief that they were intellectuals that Pol Pot was trying to eliminate.
But that's all posturing. Sarah Huckabee Sanders has asked for the federal government to pay for all hurricane relief in her state. A state that already gets $2.17 in federal $ for every $1.00 they send to the federal government. These crazies can count and they know they can't survive without the blue states. We should secede.
Build it deep as well as tall, just in case they're relatively smart enough to figure out that they can DIG UNDER such a thing. Most of them aren't much for IQ's above the single digits.
I think these comments about the lack of logic and reason in Republican behavior miss the point. The Rs are engaging in a power play, no more, no less. Their illogical and unreasonable statements and positions are merely theater for their "base" (debased base, if I may say so). So forget about "reasoning" them to more sensible behavior. This is war that should be settled by overwhelming force at the ballot box, working through and around any voting restrictions that have been put into place.
Yes, locking up all guns would help. Banning the sale assault style firearms would also be simple and effective. If someone has an assault style weapon and wants to sell it, the state will buy it, then destroy it.
Yes, I agree, which was the point I was hoping to make. If logical consistency were important to them, they would either drop their insistence on banning abortion in favor of Guns For All -- or they would decide it's a good idea to lock up ALL OF THE GUNS for the sake of the children.
Logic, to them, is like Kryptonite to Superman or holy water, garlic & sunlight to Dracula. They have their own crackhead logic that only they understand.
I enjoy science fiction, and speculative fiction. This current version of "adult consensus reality" reads like sci-fi. I think we could spin it into a pretty good yarn. No time travel, though. When we treat these bizzaro characters -- eg mtg -- as characters in a fictional tale, it makes it much easier to talk about it. Implausibility doesn't matter anymore because it's fiction. In a fictional tale we could actually talk about locking up all of the guns. And we could rewrite District of Columbia v. Heller for Justice Scalia, and bring the first clause back into contention, "...A well-regulated militia..." Then we could say "Want to own a gun? Join the National Guard -- if they'll have you."
Well-regulated militiaтАжBoy, IтАЩve been screaming that from the rooftops! If there are no gun regulations to cramp gun ownersтАЩ style, where does the тАЬWell-regulatedтАЭ part fit in?
"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;" - US Constitution, Section 8
Thank you, JL. Makes me wonder just what Madison had in mind with the 2nd Amendment when he wrote it.
Back in the day, the militias were formed by men who brought their own firearms. Nowadays I'm pretty sure anything like the National Guard provides the actual firepower.
I sure hope one day we'll have a SCOTUS that can correct the travesty of the current 2nd Amendment interpretation.
The US government has trillions worth of weapons, including nukes. This renders the "well regulated militia" moot.
Excellent point.
There's nothing wrong with these types of people that lots of drugs, ECT & perhaps a lobotomy wouldn't remedy, possibly. These are the same people who said that " The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat ". Hate is a VIRTUE to them.
I'm sure you don't mean people whose politics we disagree with should be involuntarily drugged or lobotmized. If so, there's a sizable dose of virtuous hate in your comment
Just the David Dukes & George Wallaces & a few others like MTG, who is, let's face it, plain undiluted BS unhinged & Lauren Boebert.
Wow. So we object to Nazi-like retribution except when we can weaponize it ourselves.
Daniel, your response to me is both intellectually and morally bankrupt.
I should have phrased that differently. You're correct. When my adrenaline is going at full throttle, ANYTHING can come out.
But the punishment for treachery SHOULD at least be crafted to fit the crime. Name a fitting, appropriate penalty, please.
Evocative of "Animal Farm."
We are quite close to the old tradition of human sacrifice to please and appease the gods. We just have to institutionalize it: provide тАЬundesirableтАЭ humans including, of course, children, to the shooters who worship the Second Amendment. Become a country that stands up for its rights without all the unpredictable chaos.
That scenario isnтАЩt fiction. It just happened in the same Tennessee legislature highlighted in todayтАЩs letter. White officials expelling two elected legislators from the legislature. And a third, who is white, is not expelled, merely censured. For disorderly behavior and bringing dishonor to the house. The Tennessee Three. Having a voice. All in plain site. What was the purpose of the protest? Gun control laws, children, banning military weapons. And after a judge loosened Tennessee gun laws. After six people In Nashville, including three nine year olds, were killed in a Christian school. A Christian School. Dishonor and protest on the floor. Sounds like next is a duel. Backwards Time Machines for sale in red states.
those right wing nuts are digging their own graves...we just have to watch out that we don't get pulled down with them.
Yes. And I left out in this late post, the critical factor: the expelled legislators are Black. We might have known even without that detail. We are two countries. Not united.
The white legislator's position was saved by one vote. I bet she's sick about that.
Rep. Gloria Johnson called out the discrepancy. From a Twitter post about this issue "Reporter asks Rep. Gloria Johnson why she thinks there was a difference between her outcome and Rep. Justin Jones"
Rep Johnson: "I'll answer your question; it might have to do with the color of our skin."
I, we all!, expected Hillary to win in 2016. I thought, well good, more will be done about the G. D. racism. Most unacceptable situation in America has...No excuse for it.
Look where we are now! On top of BLM...which is not a statement but a goal...now we know this for sure: Women's Lives Don't Matter!
Will we become like Sparta if we get rid of the " undesirable " humans ? This is disturbing indeed.
Anything is possible, what with over population and growing autocracy.
When has the human race proven be be "nice"?
AKA: Lies. The plutocrats, who despise "the little people" may flatter themselves a la Trump, but I think they know when they are lying. It may be "alternate facts", doublethink. and word-Greene-salad, but there is method to the madness, and its all about power; the power of money, the power of position, and the power of violence.
" IN THAT DAY " THEY WILL Face, The HIGHEST Power !
What purpose is logic in the absence of mercy and compassion?
Rational people usually don't shoot other people or smash their craniums, etc., about differences or suspected differences. I read about Pol Pot's " Killing Fields " where the Khmer Rouge would shoot people wearing glasses on the mistaken belief that they were intellectuals that Pol Pot was trying to eliminate.
Gregory Personally I believe that there were scads of mercy and compassion at the Nuremberg Trials. Mercy and compassion for the millions of victims.
Yes, the Acultamuricans must have their own country, religion, language, laws, and facts to be "logically consistent" (!) with their messy-iah.
Let 'em secede & form a new country. If a disaster takes place & they come slamming on the door for aid, we can tell them to eat c**p & die.
But that's all posturing. Sarah Huckabee Sanders has asked for the federal government to pay for all hurricane relief in her state. A state that already gets $2.17 in federal $ for every $1.00 they send to the federal government. These crazies can count and they know they can't survive without the blue states. We should secede.
Sarah Huckfinn Sanders is 6 cans short of a 6 - pack !
Maybe we can build a wall separating the blue & red states. Just give me time to move North or West first, please.
Then we'll really have to build a wall!
Build it deep as well as tall, just in case they're relatively smart enough to figure out that they can DIG UNDER such a thing. Most of them aren't much for IQ's above the single digits.
I think these comments about the lack of logic and reason in Republican behavior miss the point. The Rs are engaging in a power play, no more, no less. Their illogical and unreasonable statements and positions are merely theater for their "base" (debased base, if I may say so). So forget about "reasoning" them to more sensible behavior. This is war that should be settled by overwhelming force at the ballot box, working through and around any voting restrictions that have been put into place.
Exactly. "Their illogical and unreasonable statements and positions are merely theater for their "base" . . ."
Logic--consistent or inconsistent--requires an intellectual function . . .
Yes, locking up all guns would help. Banning the sale assault style firearms would also be simple and effective. If someone has an assault style weapon and wants to sell it, the state will buy it, then destroy it.
It worked to reduce deaths when the 1st Federal assault legislation was in effect from 1994 to 2004!
And I always ask myself, why didnтАЩt the democrats pass a ban while they briefly had a super majority? ( 2009)
Maybe if we point out that guns can and do kill pregnant women and therefore fetusesтАж????
For them, gun rights trump fetus rights.