***correction, thank you to Rose! It’s scheduled to be aired tonight, NOT last night. So sorry!
Insanely unbelievable that 60 Minutes highlighted MTG last night. It is the breakdown of institutions like this that scares me the most. I hope CBC gets many letters from the millions wanting to preserve our Constitution and law and order. Here…
***correction, thank you to Rose! It’s scheduled to be aired tonight, NOT last night. So sorry!
Insanely unbelievable that 60 Minutes highlighted MTG last night. It is the breakdown of institutions like this that scares me the most. I hope CBC gets many letters from the millions wanting to preserve our Constitution and law and order. Here’s a link to their feedback form in case anyone is so inclined to use it:
We should never be hesitant about watching something highlighting those we strongly disagree with! I cannot stomach watching Fox, but a 60 Minutes segment on MTG sort of makes my mouth water because whomever of the 60 Minutes crew interviews her will do a superb job. As always.
People that should know better are giving her power that she should not have to continue to incite violence, to lie, when under oath she states she could not remember anything which were obvious lies. She is malicious, destructive and unfit for office. Did we not learn anything by giving tffg a megaphone to spew his 💩💩💩💩? There is a domestic terrorist cult attempting to win over vulnerable minds to grab power. I’m strongly against “feeding the bad wolf” by elevating their voices
Does it occur to anyone that putting MTG on such a large national stage might well inform many viewers of just how totally nuts that woman is? 60 Minutes is a program watched by many people who likely have never watched the Fox cable channel and many of whom may be more liberal than "conservative".
What do I think of Marjorie Taylor Greene? There are obvious signs that she is unwell, dangerous, and criminally-minded. Disease will spread where conditions are set up for their spreading, and this is why I have advocated for attention to mental health, not purely politics.
10:19 PM · Jan 30, 2021
A more recent tweet regarding what can be done to decrease the risk of violence:
As long as Donald Trump has a public megaphone, the country will continue to grow more dangerous. Taking it away from him is the first step toward our safety.
12:02 PM · Mar 31, 2023
Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Tim Snyder give the same warnings. The violence is contagious. It’s a serious public health issue more than a political issue.
Find it hard to believe that anyone hasn’t heard the 💩💩💩 she spews. Normalizing the sickest among them is a big mistake. They did it to tffg in 2015-16. It’s happening again, only she’s even sicker.
I knew all I needed to know when she lied under oath about not being able to remember anything. The only thing I would care to hear from her is testimony under oath. 60 minutes has failed miserably. I have made my formal complaint
How has 60 Minutes failed? The program has not even aired yet, so it's not possible to make a meaningful assessment of it. Or do you have access to it not available to most? I am concerned because one of the most damaging things one can do is criticize something without knowing what it is one is criticizing.
60 minutes is not Fox News. Just by choosing to put her words on air they give her power. Have you not heard the violence she has tried to incite? Just because McCarthy is getting his ass licked by her doesn’t mean anyone with any recognizable sense of human dignity should give any weight to anything she could say. Feeding the bad wolves. I don’t understand how that is not crystal clear.
You would have to have your head buried in the sand to not have heard the kind of malicious 💩 she has been spewing. This is NOT what free speech is about!!
Gail Adams, I know what you mean! I have to have a constant check on my mind's attitude and reactions, trying to not just immediately react with words. It is extremely hard to do with "those people."
Just watched the MTG interview on 60 Minutes. I believe Lesley Stahl did a terrific job: she was well-prepared, conducted fair and balanced questioning (as much as I dislike MTG, I believe a true journalist does not attack the person interviewed but elicits responses that elucidate in their own terms), and held her cool while holding MTG accountable for her aberrant actions and absurd accusations. The interview lived up to Stahl’s and 60 Minutes’ high journalistic standards.
Sorry. There can be NO fair and balanced with an elected representative who calls on their cult of armed extremists to kill their political opponents. It is extremely distressing to me that good people here don’t “get” that simple premise. It’s no different than tffg guy saying there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. MTG is an abomination, too sick to have such a powerful position, and good, humane people should not normalize her. I’m sorry, but it’s just shocking to me that this is not a shared point of view and I feel it’s so important that I have to speak up. There are not 2 sides to this. One is violence and death of innocent people. It cannot be normalized.
I understand other people's POV in feeling MTG should be held to account by a competent network journalist, who's not a Faux mouthpiece, to expose her outrageous ideas. As much as I get that, I have to side with you, Christy.
60 minutes is one of, if not the most, venerated TV news programs in our country. Appearance on it is often seen as validation of a person's ideas and acknowledgement of them as a tastemaker, power broker, rightful policy maker or all of the above. Tonight's interview subject has shown herself to be unsophisticated, not just in speech or manners, but in matters of reason or intellect. This appearance will be seen by her and spun by her camp as confirmation of her savvy, smarts and awesome power, both in her party and in the HoR. Many of the more uncritical thinkers who support her will see it the same way. The same reasons that no POTUS, until 45, met with N. Korea's leader, because it would signify an equality between our President and a despot, is the same way respected journalists can't invite crackpots onto their primetime news programs to give them the air of respectability.
TFG used his Time MOTY cover as vindication of his greatness. No matter how Time editors and staff writers tried, he refused to grasp that the selected person can be chosen for worldwide impact from doing the most bad, as well as good. This Rep. will view this the same way. Her and her cohorts will spin it as the moment 'the lamestream mediuhh' discovered what a braintrust she is. Mark my words, slo-mo, audio-free clips of her and Leslie Stahl, faced off in interview chairs, are being cut into reelection propaganda by her people as we post comments.
Thank you Cathy for articulating that so well ❤️. I see it as an endorsement for fascism and a promotion of violence by 60 minutes, a show I once had significant respect for.
Thank you for appreciating my response. I meant to mention Greene's past calls for violence and public support of fascism too in my response to you and forgot, so thank you for noting that.
For reasons we've stated, and so many more, I refuse to watch or patronize any of it. Not real time, not a replay, no excerpts and no online clips. News coverage now is driven by observed engagement and ad sales from it. What signal are we sending if we all, even with good intentions, tune in en masse to watch a piece on a nut job? Ratings and clicks don't identify between curiosity or overt support. They're only raw data showing interest and I won't add my activity to it if I can help it. I'd rather drive up the click count on stories about Orange Julius answering to NYC, GA & DOJ for crimes.
P.S. Not Cathy, just C. It's for cookie and for now, good enough for me.
😳 sorry about the “Cathy”! Apparently my brain is getting senile. (Perhaps because I had a coworker with that name 🤷🏻♀️) Thank you Cookie ❤️Warmest regards!
Just to keep the comments “fair and balanced”, I’m sharing this spout by Dr. Joanne Freeman, Heather’s respected co-host of Now and Then.
Joanne Freeman
@jbf1755
Agreed.
The interview advertised & normalized a blatantly anti-democratic movement during a political crisis.
And it defused its usefulness. There could have been questions re: assertions & generalizations, & clear explanations of what those "in your face" claims truly mean--to MTG & more broadly
Dan Wentzel
@DanWentzel
60 Minutes crossed a unforgivable line with its softball interview of Marjorie Taylor Greene. The need by many in the corporate media to try and normalize fascism in the Republican Party because they cannot come to terms with its fundamental threat to American democracy is a danger to all of us.
Thank you Rose for your correction! I would not watch it for obvious reasons and when I saw the many headlines this morning had misunderstood and thought that it had already happened. (Yesterday felt like Sunday to me for a variety of reasons.)
Don’t suppose they would reconsider airing it, though?
No worries, Christy! I barely watch tv, other than PBS. I do watch 60 Minutes and CBS’s Sunday Morning show, which just advertised MTG’s 60 Minutes segment. I will watch, of course! Ignorance is not necessarily bliss when it comes to politics. I do hope the interview itself does not cast a positive light on MTG’s dark derangements…
Garbage. She speaks garbage. She makes up lying 💩 and incites violence against our most vulnerable. I wouldn’t listen to a word of it if I was paid a million dollars. Now if you want to put her back under oath and see if she can remember any of the nasty crap she’s done or said then that’s a different story.
I'll watch the segment on Empty G just out of morbid curiosity. If the 60 Minutes interviewer is as good as they usually are, she'll come off looking rather oafish, perhaps even deranged. I am reminded of Sarah Palin's remark about putting lipstick on a pig...
How she looks to you is not necessarily how she will look to millions of others. They are handing her power and feeding the cult. She’s a piss ant. Her words should be buried under piles of excrement not spewed into the universe to fall on vulnerable ears. Which wolf will win?? The one we feed! Our free speech clause was never intended to let malevolence loose on all of us.
I think you are attributing more intelligence to the T**** base than they merit. Methinks they don't watch "60 Minutes", so the chance of her persuading anyone beyond that base is somewhat reduced. We'll have to wait and see what happens... hopefully "60 Minutes" will handle her properly (i.e., let her make as big a fool of herself as she has shown she is capable).
It’s all over the freaking news!!! Do you think Fox News won’t replay this over and over. No doubt she’s shooting to be tffg’s running mate! The way it’s headed they’ll be running the country! And I’m really tired of folks saying how stupid MAGA are. They have “emotional blocks”. They deny the reality that assaults their fragile egos. No doubt many have organic brain damage, but it does not help their sense of victimization when smart, intelligent, educated people persistently call them stupid or dumb. Many of them likely didn’t have parents that read to them at bedtime or valued their success in school
You: Us vs them. Ad hominem arguments. What "freaking news" is it all over? I read widely, and only see coverage of the pending indictment, nothing about Fox coverage (except jokes). Fox rarely (if ever) replays stuff from CBS, who are not known for puff pieces, esp on people like MTG. Holy cow. What are you really trying to accomplish except discourage people from watching one of the most respected investigative tv programs? And why?
I’m done. I’ve answered your questions. It’s apparent I’ve so pissed you off so badly that you can’t even absorb what I’ve said. Peace! We’re both on the same side.
So you have decided that no one should watch this program? I don't get it. That is backward. This is what we NEED to watch: a program known for not glossing over things and calling out thing that need to be exposed to light. It's not Fox. It's CBS. What actually is your motivation here?
Annie, It’s the act of valuing the words of someone who has encouraged physical harm to elected leaders. Obviously it’s not within my control, but yes it is morally wrong to want to elevate the words of anyone who has spoken so destructively and harmfully. How do we not understand this after watching tffg succeed? I have clarified my reasoning repeatedly.
Christy, why do you think this is about elevating MTG's words? A lot of people have gone on Sixty Minutes certain that they are going to walk out smug, but instead walked with mud on their face. How is not watching going to change anything? MTG has wormed her way into a position of potential influence. A major investigative news entity is going to examine how that happened. In what way is that "elevating" anything? I want to know how this crackpot works. This comes in somewhere in the "Know your enemy" rubric. And I suspect that Ms. Greene is not going to come out looking great. Why don't we wait and see what the program says? Why are you so dead set on arguing this to death? I am serious: I really want to know. Because your "reasoning" simply doesn't make sense.
It would be helpful if we understood their motives. Are they after ratings or are they on board the train to fascism? Perhaps that is the same thing 🤷🏻♀️?
Be forewarned.I clocked on the url (thank you) and then spent 15 frustrating minutes as it refused to allow me to indicate which show I was feeding back on, and so it never got posted. For the rest of you this is what I tried to post:
MTG? "Not afraid"?? "Speaks her mind"???
How about "whacko" or "what mind?", to say nothing of your obligation to exercise judgment in crafting your reporting framework to sustain the Republic rather than undermine it?
You should be ashamed of yourselves airing such a puff piece without as part of the segment also posting a sampling of her posts over just the preceding 48 hours.
Dr. Joanne Freeman also tweeted how they are “normalizing” her thoughts/words by the way they framed their advertisements for the show by using her language that you described.
Sorry that it did not let you submit. I too had missed the selections at the start for both the choose the category and then choose the program. Eventually, I did get it to go. 🙏 thank you for your time and energy
***correction, thank you to Rose! It’s scheduled to be aired tonight, NOT last night. So sorry!
Insanely unbelievable that 60 Minutes highlighted MTG last night. It is the breakdown of institutions like this that scares me the most. I hope CBC gets many letters from the millions wanting to preserve our Constitution and law and order. Here’s a link to their feedback form in case anyone is so inclined to use it:
https://www.cbs.com/showfeedback/
We should never be hesitant about watching something highlighting those we strongly disagree with! I cannot stomach watching Fox, but a 60 Minutes segment on MTG sort of makes my mouth water because whomever of the 60 Minutes crew interviews her will do a superb job. As always.
People that should know better are giving her power that she should not have to continue to incite violence, to lie, when under oath she states she could not remember anything which were obvious lies. She is malicious, destructive and unfit for office. Did we not learn anything by giving tffg a megaphone to spew his 💩💩💩💩? There is a domestic terrorist cult attempting to win over vulnerable minds to grab power. I’m strongly against “feeding the bad wolf” by elevating their voices
Does it occur to anyone that putting MTG on such a large national stage might well inform many viewers of just how totally nuts that woman is? 60 Minutes is a program watched by many people who likely have never watched the Fox cable channel and many of whom may be more liberal than "conservative".
Judith, are you familiar with Dr. Bandy Lee?
A tweet from her in Jan.: 2021
Bandy X Lee, MD, MDiv
@BandyXLee1
What do I think of Marjorie Taylor Greene? There are obvious signs that she is unwell, dangerous, and criminally-minded. Disease will spread where conditions are set up for their spreading, and this is why I have advocated for attention to mental health, not purely politics.
10:19 PM · Jan 30, 2021
A more recent tweet regarding what can be done to decrease the risk of violence:
As long as Donald Trump has a public megaphone, the country will continue to grow more dangerous. Taking it away from him is the first step toward our safety.
12:02 PM · Mar 31, 2023
Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Tim Snyder give the same warnings. The violence is contagious. It’s a serious public health issue more than a political issue.
Dr. Lee on contagion of violence:
https://www.salon.com/2020/07/22/trumps-psychosis-has-infected-his-followers-heres-how-to-get-them-better_partner/
Find it hard to believe that anyone hasn’t heard the 💩💩💩 she spews. Normalizing the sickest among them is a big mistake. They did it to tffg in 2015-16. It’s happening again, only she’s even sicker.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/28/marjorie-taylor-greene-kevin-mccarthy-republicans-house-committee
I hope you’re right! One must know the opposition. ( just refrained from using “enemy” although that’s how I feel. Sad.)
I knew all I needed to know when she lied under oath about not being able to remember anything. The only thing I would care to hear from her is testimony under oath. 60 minutes has failed miserably. I have made my formal complaint
How has 60 Minutes failed? The program has not even aired yet, so it's not possible to make a meaningful assessment of it. Or do you have access to it not available to most? I am concerned because one of the most damaging things one can do is criticize something without knowing what it is one is criticizing.
60 minutes is not Fox News. Just by choosing to put her words on air they give her power. Have you not heard the violence she has tried to incite? Just because McCarthy is getting his ass licked by her doesn’t mean anyone with any recognizable sense of human dignity should give any weight to anything she could say. Feeding the bad wolves. I don’t understand how that is not crystal clear.
You would have to have your head buried in the sand to not have heard the kind of malicious 💩 she has been spewing. This is NOT what free speech is about!!
Gail Adams, I know what you mean! I have to have a constant check on my mind's attitude and reactions, trying to not just immediately react with words. It is extremely hard to do with "those people."
Just watched the MTG interview on 60 Minutes. I believe Lesley Stahl did a terrific job: she was well-prepared, conducted fair and balanced questioning (as much as I dislike MTG, I believe a true journalist does not attack the person interviewed but elicits responses that elucidate in their own terms), and held her cool while holding MTG accountable for her aberrant actions and absurd accusations. The interview lived up to Stahl’s and 60 Minutes’ high journalistic standards.
Rose, I watched it, and your review was right on the money.
Thanks, Rose, for your own good review of the broadcast. I'll be watching it soon.
Sorry. There can be NO fair and balanced with an elected representative who calls on their cult of armed extremists to kill their political opponents. It is extremely distressing to me that good people here don’t “get” that simple premise. It’s no different than tffg guy saying there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. MTG is an abomination, too sick to have such a powerful position, and good, humane people should not normalize her. I’m sorry, but it’s just shocking to me that this is not a shared point of view and I feel it’s so important that I have to speak up. There are not 2 sides to this. One is violence and death of innocent people. It cannot be normalized.
I understand other people's POV in feeling MTG should be held to account by a competent network journalist, who's not a Faux mouthpiece, to expose her outrageous ideas. As much as I get that, I have to side with you, Christy.
60 minutes is one of, if not the most, venerated TV news programs in our country. Appearance on it is often seen as validation of a person's ideas and acknowledgement of them as a tastemaker, power broker, rightful policy maker or all of the above. Tonight's interview subject has shown herself to be unsophisticated, not just in speech or manners, but in matters of reason or intellect. This appearance will be seen by her and spun by her camp as confirmation of her savvy, smarts and awesome power, both in her party and in the HoR. Many of the more uncritical thinkers who support her will see it the same way. The same reasons that no POTUS, until 45, met with N. Korea's leader, because it would signify an equality between our President and a despot, is the same way respected journalists can't invite crackpots onto their primetime news programs to give them the air of respectability.
TFG used his Time MOTY cover as vindication of his greatness. No matter how Time editors and staff writers tried, he refused to grasp that the selected person can be chosen for worldwide impact from doing the most bad, as well as good. This Rep. will view this the same way. Her and her cohorts will spin it as the moment 'the lamestream mediuhh' discovered what a braintrust she is. Mark my words, slo-mo, audio-free clips of her and Leslie Stahl, faced off in interview chairs, are being cut into reelection propaganda by her people as we post comments.
Thank you Cathy for articulating that so well ❤️. I see it as an endorsement for fascism and a promotion of violence by 60 minutes, a show I once had significant respect for.
Thank you for appreciating my response. I meant to mention Greene's past calls for violence and public support of fascism too in my response to you and forgot, so thank you for noting that.
For reasons we've stated, and so many more, I refuse to watch or patronize any of it. Not real time, not a replay, no excerpts and no online clips. News coverage now is driven by observed engagement and ad sales from it. What signal are we sending if we all, even with good intentions, tune in en masse to watch a piece on a nut job? Ratings and clicks don't identify between curiosity or overt support. They're only raw data showing interest and I won't add my activity to it if I can help it. I'd rather drive up the click count on stories about Orange Julius answering to NYC, GA & DOJ for crimes.
P.S. Not Cathy, just C. It's for cookie and for now, good enough for me.
😳 sorry about the “Cathy”! Apparently my brain is getting senile. (Perhaps because I had a coworker with that name 🤷🏻♀️) Thank you Cookie ❤️Warmest regards!
Just to keep the comments “fair and balanced”, I’m sharing this spout by Dr. Joanne Freeman, Heather’s respected co-host of Now and Then.
Joanne Freeman
@jbf1755
Agreed.
The interview advertised & normalized a blatantly anti-democratic movement during a political crisis.
And it defused its usefulness. There could have been questions re: assertions & generalizations, & clear explanations of what those "in your face" claims truly mean--to MTG & more broadly
Dan Wentzel
@DanWentzel
60 Minutes crossed a unforgivable line with its softball interview of Marjorie Taylor Greene. The need by many in the corporate media to try and normalize fascism in the Republican Party because they cannot come to terms with its fundamental threat to American democracy is a danger to all of us.
01:11 AM - Apr 03, 2023
60 Minutes runs on Sundays. Did they have a special Saturday night edition?
Thank you Rose for your correction! I would not watch it for obvious reasons and when I saw the many headlines this morning had misunderstood and thought that it had already happened. (Yesterday felt like Sunday to me for a variety of reasons.)
Don’t suppose they would reconsider airing it, though?
No worries, Christy! I barely watch tv, other than PBS. I do watch 60 Minutes and CBS’s Sunday Morning show, which just advertised MTG’s 60 Minutes segment. I will watch, of course! Ignorance is not necessarily bliss when it comes to politics. I do hope the interview itself does not cast a positive light on MTG’s dark derangements…
Watch and be unafraid!!
Garbage. She speaks garbage. She makes up lying 💩 and incites violence against our most vulnerable. I wouldn’t listen to a word of it if I was paid a million dollars. Now if you want to put her back under oath and see if she can remember any of the nasty crap she’s done or said then that’s a different story.
I'll watch the segment on Empty G just out of morbid curiosity. If the 60 Minutes interviewer is as good as they usually are, she'll come off looking rather oafish, perhaps even deranged. I am reminded of Sarah Palin's remark about putting lipstick on a pig...
How she looks to you is not necessarily how she will look to millions of others. They are handing her power and feeding the cult. She’s a piss ant. Her words should be buried under piles of excrement not spewed into the universe to fall on vulnerable ears. Which wolf will win?? The one we feed! Our free speech clause was never intended to let malevolence loose on all of us.
I think you are attributing more intelligence to the T**** base than they merit. Methinks they don't watch "60 Minutes", so the chance of her persuading anyone beyond that base is somewhat reduced. We'll have to wait and see what happens... hopefully "60 Minutes" will handle her properly (i.e., let her make as big a fool of herself as she has shown she is capable).
It’s all over the freaking news!!! Do you think Fox News won’t replay this over and over. No doubt she’s shooting to be tffg’s running mate! The way it’s headed they’ll be running the country! And I’m really tired of folks saying how stupid MAGA are. They have “emotional blocks”. They deny the reality that assaults their fragile egos. No doubt many have organic brain damage, but it does not help their sense of victimization when smart, intelligent, educated people persistently call them stupid or dumb. Many of them likely didn’t have parents that read to them at bedtime or valued their success in school
You: Us vs them. Ad hominem arguments. What "freaking news" is it all over? I read widely, and only see coverage of the pending indictment, nothing about Fox coverage (except jokes). Fox rarely (if ever) replays stuff from CBS, who are not known for puff pieces, esp on people like MTG. Holy cow. What are you really trying to accomplish except discourage people from watching one of the most respected investigative tv programs? And why?
I’m done. I’ve answered your questions. It’s apparent I’ve so pissed you off so badly that you can’t even absorb what I’ve said. Peace! We’re both on the same side.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/04/01/marjorie-taylor-greenes-60-minutes-interview-sparks-social-media-outrage/amp/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4miJuYjnYxI
https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-praises-lesley-stahl-60-minutes-amid-backlash-1792008?amp=1
https://www.ajc.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-to-be-featured-on-60-minutes-ahead-of-trump-protest/TBL7AYGXF5GIZK2U2TTAMG2FVU/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberals-rage-60-minutes-interviewing-marjorie-taylor-greene-legitimizing-ghoul.amp
So you have decided that no one should watch this program? I don't get it. That is backward. This is what we NEED to watch: a program known for not glossing over things and calling out thing that need to be exposed to light. It's not Fox. It's CBS. What actually is your motivation here?
Annie, It’s the act of valuing the words of someone who has encouraged physical harm to elected leaders. Obviously it’s not within my control, but yes it is morally wrong to want to elevate the words of anyone who has spoken so destructively and harmfully. How do we not understand this after watching tffg succeed? I have clarified my reasoning repeatedly.
Christy, why do you think this is about elevating MTG's words? A lot of people have gone on Sixty Minutes certain that they are going to walk out smug, but instead walked with mud on their face. How is not watching going to change anything? MTG has wormed her way into a position of potential influence. A major investigative news entity is going to examine how that happened. In what way is that "elevating" anything? I want to know how this crackpot works. This comes in somewhere in the "Know your enemy" rubric. And I suspect that Ms. Greene is not going to come out looking great. Why don't we wait and see what the program says? Why are you so dead set on arguing this to death? I am serious: I really want to know. Because your "reasoning" simply doesn't make sense.
DO you suppose that if half their viewing audience chooses not to watch this segment it would say something?
It would be helpful if we understood their motives. Are they after ratings or are they on board the train to fascism? Perhaps that is the same thing 🤷🏻♀️?
Be forewarned.I clocked on the url (thank you) and then spent 15 frustrating minutes as it refused to allow me to indicate which show I was feeding back on, and so it never got posted. For the rest of you this is what I tried to post:
MTG? "Not afraid"?? "Speaks her mind"???
How about "whacko" or "what mind?", to say nothing of your obligation to exercise judgment in crafting your reporting framework to sustain the Republic rather than undermine it?
You should be ashamed of yourselves airing such a puff piece without as part of the segment also posting a sampling of her posts over just the preceding 48 hours.
Dr. Joanne Freeman also tweeted how they are “normalizing” her thoughts/words by the way they framed their advertisements for the show by using her language that you described.
Sorry that it did not let you submit. I too had missed the selections at the start for both the choose the category and then choose the program. Eventually, I did get it to go. 🙏 thank you for your time and energy