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Christy's avatar

Over the last 4 years I have become aware of how falsely safe I have felt In the security of our democracy. Never could I have imagined that it could be ripped to shreds the way it has been, even though I saw early in 2016 that this psychopath was a danger to us. My confidence was falsely placed in our citizenship. I did not foresee the darkness within us on this scale. Seem like it’s pretty much 40% of us?

Heather’s quote from Honest Abe: “Ordinary Americans “rose each fighting, grasping whatever he could first reach---a scythe---a pitchfork-- a chopping axe, or a butcher's cleaver,” he said.” scares the crap out of me. Trump has sent out emails offering camo hats for sale (remember “his hats symbolize hoods”) to his exclusive “Trump army” to fight against the liberal mob. They are masters of symbolism, which in part is the hook they set for people’s emotions and loyalty. What percentage of “Trump’s army” is in possession of multiple assault rifles and endless ammunition? Military leaders have reassured us that if Biden is duly elected he will assume power Jan. 20 despite whether Trump wants to relinquish it or not. I’m concerned for Nov. and Dec. and much of January. If Trump loses, his “army” will be the ones grabbing what they have (assault rifles). He’s made it very clear that laws and accountability do not apply to him and his. He will still legally hold power over our military during those months. Will they keep citizens safe from his own personal armed militia? There are reports that the militias have infiltrated police forces around the country and we have certainly seen some of the results of that in real time lately. Someone else suggested the national guard could be called upon to protect citizens from Trump’s personal militia forces.

I am not bringing this up to frighten people. This is not drama for the sake of drama. I ask this because I do not want to continue to be unprepared for what is in front of us. Too many of us have denied the evil psychopathy and capability of trump and his goons. I think we need to broaden our mind to just what their intentions are (after all, just because they are broadcasting it in the light of day, we have learned the hard way they are not joking). I want to be prepared for what lies ahead and I want our leaders to be prepared for multiple different pathological actions by this group of proven wannabe tyrants. What will our country look like if Trump loses Nov. 3rd and then puts out a dog whistle to his personal, already recruited, “army” (militia) during the lame duck period?

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Kathleen Mitchell's avatar

I’m very worried about the lame duck period.

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Cheryl C (Florida)'s avatar

Yes! It keeps me up at night. What may be more dangerous than Trump winning, is Trump losing. 😳

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Renée (Kujawski) Bauernfeind's avatar

Christy, I am 68 and am paralyzed with fear! I live in a Red, rural county where everyone has guns. It IS a small town, so I hope people will behave like good neighbors. However, It's not Mayberry, RFD and our Peninsula cannot hold out forever.

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Denise H.'s avatar

I keep taking up air with the Repub friends I talk to and remind them we really want the same things. And the thing standing between us is just propaganda. Fear stoked to divide us. I actually had one try to give me a hug but I said I’m good mask denier! And tell me she loves me! Wow! Once you can let them see you’re not out to get them, it starts to crack the shell. A friend I’ve had since I was three I told him his propaganda post only set us all up for failure. His friends attacked me! I rebutted, notice he didn’t attack me! Why? Because he’s like a brother and would indeed protect me! He took the post down. Get out! Take up air! Take up space! Remind them who you are! A friend! It feels good to do something instead of living in fear!

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Christy's avatar

I’m trying to do the same. Thankful that my brother could see the light 🙏 I can’t say we want the same things to a Trump supporter. Maybe could pick a single issue and say I want that too, though.

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Denise H.'s avatar

That’s a place to start! We all want security, a home, a meal on the table, good schools for our kids. They definitely go after it in a more aggressive way! Just trying to undo the brainwashing.

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

Any of us who don't want oligarchy at everyone's expense, can agree on feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the sick. If that's too biblical, we also agree on educating the children, repairing the roads, taking care of the old. Most of the country agrees on most of what we need to do, although not on exactly how to do it.

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Brenda Serpa's avatar

I just had an FB acquaintance defriend me because I told her in a private message that her post about Joe Biden being a child molester was bogus and was a prominent part of the QAnon conspiracy theory.

She told me I was a bleeding-heart liberal, QAnon was real, and that my adherence to mask-wearing and social distancing was helping to destroy the economy. I did not know what to say back other than I disagreed with her and that she should fact check her posts. It did not matter, she defriended me.

I have an ultra-conservative next-door neighbor that is a retired policeman. I go out to water my Red Tip Photinia early in the morning, hoping to avoid him. He opens his garage door and voila! I endure an hour of Biden-shaming: Biden will increase taxes, open the borders, and destroy America. I do not know where to begin. If anyone should worry about another Trump term, it is my neighbor, a person collecting a pension.

Mitch McConnell would love it if our Democratic state would collapse but it would take massive changes in legislation for a state to go into bankruptcy because currently, they cannot. With a second Trump term, who knows? But if it came to it, the consequences would be most dramatic for state pensioners and bondholders. Union contracts could be rewritten, and a state than might re-negotiate its existing pension benefits. My neighbor’s pension and other pensions would go the way of the dodo and Social Security.

I have found that I cannot tell Republican acquaintances/neighbors anything remotely progressive. They do not want to hear a contrary opinion. So I keep my mouth shut. I am thankful for being able to make comments here, read others’ comments, and know that I am not alone in my experiences.

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

oy. Some people are operating in an imaginary world. The worst thing that could happen, for them as well as for us, would be for TrumpBarr and the QAnoners to continue on their present course. You are definitely not alone.

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Cathy (W. Michigan)'s avatar

Unfortunately, I share your view of America should the current administration( I can’t bring myself to even give his name a presence here) be voted out. It terrifies me, and is beginning to cause me an almost paralyzing anxiety.

HOW HAVE WE COME TO THIS?!?!

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Christy's avatar

If we become paralyzed with fear we lose. That is exactly what they are hoping for. This is why I say we should mentally prepare ourselves and be ready and understand what our resources are and can be now and not be left standing there with our jaws around our knees or cowering in our homes

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