The best, most interesting and challenging comment I have seen in ages, a real 'frame changer' with deep implications.
In Britain we have seen the consequences of this progressive illusion in Brexit; it was launched unwittingly by Cameron as a 'religious war', a war of two opposing framing systems, unfortunately the anti-brexit group did …
The best, most interesting and challenging comment I have seen in ages, a real 'frame changer' with deep implications.
In Britain we have seen the consequences of this progressive illusion in Brexit; it was launched unwittingly by Cameron as a 'religious war', a war of two opposing framing systems, unfortunately the anti-brexit group did not understand this, and we know the disastrous consequences.
I will await your permission to copy this and forward it to my Labour Party MP, in the probably vain hope that it might influence Starmer, who is following the 'progressive line' as if following the textbook.
I would also love to hear you expand on the 'conservative frames'; you seem to have studied it with an appropriate theoretical base.
Philip, please copy and distribute as you wish. The conservative and liberal frames are described by Lakoff in his pinnacle, "Don't Think of an Elephant"
When we are young, language is everything. The more we hear, the more circuitry is formed. Scientists and musicians had a different youth than I, without a specific pattern other than normal discourse. I had a very loving widowed mother in the 1950s. My close cousin had an outwardly kind but personally abusive single father --- to turn this into a political theory, Lakoff states the following. The idea of "family" is everything in America, 'our forefathers', our 'sons off to war', 'Uncle Sam'... etc. I had the 'Nurturant Parent' model of family upbringing. She had the 'Strict Father' - and by no means do I say that the strict father model is necessarily abusive!
*** Frames are used to simplify complexities in life. The Strict Father exemplifies conservatives mode of thinking: the strong man and strong father figure: the Jesus Christ male figure of spirituality; 2nd Amendment rights; male hierarchy led by the strict father at top, then other white males, then the mother, other white females, then people of color and then finally the Earth.
The Nurturant Parent family metaphor allows for co-parenting from mother and father; a child's exploration during upbringing; equity and equality of people; nonhierarchical sense of spirituality. This frame allows for change, while the Strict Father frame tends toward tradition, naturally.
I feel the most successful frame in America today is "Culture War." This says EVERYTHING." And everyone knows what it means. WE certainly do. Unfortunately, our silo thinking in our world view does NOT enable us to see the systemic problem we face, which I believe is an abusive abusive world economic order, which enables even the wealthiest of Americans to own the most guns, because no one is satisfied ...
I go back to the Vietnam era, and have been active in politics, and spirituality for more than 50 years. Nearly 30 years thikning and writing about this notion around a vision, and lack thereof.
I guess I'm about right there with you. I'm 75 and fought my draft board for the five years it took to get through college. I maintained they were war criminals and I was going to see them in court. That was a lot of writing. I was #15 in the lottery and managed to get a student deferrment in time twice to beat the induction notices. Spirituality, deep thinking, political activism, notebooks of someone I don't recognize anymore, but one becomes someone else if they learn anything. Those were my core, no matter what I did for a living.
Take care Frederick, we will undoubtably cross paths after Heather's letters.
The best, most interesting and challenging comment I have seen in ages, a real 'frame changer' with deep implications.
In Britain we have seen the consequences of this progressive illusion in Brexit; it was launched unwittingly by Cameron as a 'religious war', a war of two opposing framing systems, unfortunately the anti-brexit group did not understand this, and we know the disastrous consequences.
I will await your permission to copy this and forward it to my Labour Party MP, in the probably vain hope that it might influence Starmer, who is following the 'progressive line' as if following the textbook.
I would also love to hear you expand on the 'conservative frames'; you seem to have studied it with an appropriate theoretical base.
Philip, please copy and distribute as you wish. The conservative and liberal frames are described by Lakoff in his pinnacle, "Don't Think of an Elephant"
When we are young, language is everything. The more we hear, the more circuitry is formed. Scientists and musicians had a different youth than I, without a specific pattern other than normal discourse. I had a very loving widowed mother in the 1950s. My close cousin had an outwardly kind but personally abusive single father --- to turn this into a political theory, Lakoff states the following. The idea of "family" is everything in America, 'our forefathers', our 'sons off to war', 'Uncle Sam'... etc. I had the 'Nurturant Parent' model of family upbringing. She had the 'Strict Father' - and by no means do I say that the strict father model is necessarily abusive!
*** Frames are used to simplify complexities in life. The Strict Father exemplifies conservatives mode of thinking: the strong man and strong father figure: the Jesus Christ male figure of spirituality; 2nd Amendment rights; male hierarchy led by the strict father at top, then other white males, then the mother, other white females, then people of color and then finally the Earth.
The Nurturant Parent family metaphor allows for co-parenting from mother and father; a child's exploration during upbringing; equity and equality of people; nonhierarchical sense of spirituality. This frame allows for change, while the Strict Father frame tends toward tradition, naturally.
I feel the most successful frame in America today is "Culture War." This says EVERYTHING." And everyone knows what it means. WE certainly do. Unfortunately, our silo thinking in our world view does NOT enable us to see the systemic problem we face, which I believe is an abusive abusive world economic order, which enables even the wealthiest of Americans to own the most guns, because no one is satisfied ...
Frederick, whenever I shake my head about conservatives voting against their best interests, I reread George Lakoff’s Moral Politics.
“ Conservatives argue that social safety nets are immoral because they work against self-discipline and responsibility.”
— Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think by George Lakoff
https://a.co/hWzdgfu
Brava Mary!
That looks like good place to start for me too. Laskoff is new to me.
By the way, Frederick, is imparting such information something you do professionally? Sure sounds like it. Or you are extremely well read.
I go back to the Vietnam era, and have been active in politics, and spirituality for more than 50 years. Nearly 30 years thikning and writing about this notion around a vision, and lack thereof.
Thanks, Ransom
I guess I'm about right there with you. I'm 75 and fought my draft board for the five years it took to get through college. I maintained they were war criminals and I was going to see them in court. That was a lot of writing. I was #15 in the lottery and managed to get a student deferrment in time twice to beat the induction notices. Spirituality, deep thinking, political activism, notebooks of someone I don't recognize anymore, but one becomes someone else if they learn anything. Those were my core, no matter what I did for a living.
Take care Frederick, we will undoubtably cross paths after Heather's letters.