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Lady Emsworth's avatar

I agree they are powerful, Peter - but not "all powerful."

Have you ever seen a house when termites have been at it?

Termites have a bad rep - but we need to copy them. Nibble and nibble away until the rule of the oligarchs start to crack.

I'm sure when Harris wins, a lot of things will go on the same - but even Elon the Invincible has to die one day, and by then some progress will have been made. Maybe not much - but enough to lift some lives. and to ensure some safety under the law. There is an awfully long way to go, things that should have been done fifty years ago still need to be put into place. But if we don't see it ourselves, our grandchildren can. And they can carry on the fight as well.

Trump keeps saying "MAGA" - but America has never been truly great for all it's citizens - even the First Nations had their problems, they didn't call themselves "One Nation." And the horrific conditions some of the later immigrants lived in took a long time to even begin being addressed. So, "Patience and Perseverance!"

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Patty. Dubin's avatar

I agree, we older Americans had nothing given to us, we worked hard and saved our money to purchase items we needed. Today, I see people buying things on credit cards that they can't afford to pay for at the end of the month. Personal debts are a problem. People think they should have everything they like. Probably 50% of the stuff never gets used at all. There is a big difference between what you need and what you want. What I'm saying is, to many people want it fixed today and don't realize we are in it for the long game. America is perfect and she is constantly evolving. Patience and Perseverance! Stay a player...

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Thank you, Patty, thank you Lady Emsworth, I had wanted to add that, while we have all seen rising grocery (and many other) prices, we react to our difficulties here and now... but turning around the economy of a huge country or ship takes time -- even without mutineers on the bridge and in the engine room... and we want instant gratification...

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Excellent analogy, Peter.

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

Not sure I agree. Perhaps people are not making enough money to make ends meet.

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Three jobs and still hard to get by? Is that the kind of living-to-work treadmill you're talking of, Ned McDoodle?

And fearing to fall ill lest you lose your job...

The kind of compulsive and compulsory workaholism that makes for built-in inefficiencies, an unhappy workforce, an unhappy society. Unhappy, but too busy trying to keep afloat to become a threat to those who count...

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

I can not seem to scroll back to the thread from which this exchange is the derivative.

EDIT: Peter, this comment was directed toward you and Lady on the credit card debt. People may be out of money and using credit cards out of desperation rather than instant gratification.

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Peter Burnett's avatar

Fair enough.

We'd not be seeing the hijacked Republican Party turned into a barely disguised Nazi-type tool and used with some success to subvert the Republic if a substantial number of people had not been reduced to desperation by a few decades of the same subversives' activities.

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