I was responding to the following observation of Dr. Richardson's: "The report concludes that the efforts to subvert the DOJ were part of Trump’s attempt “to retain the presidency by any means necessary,”"
Subverting the DOJ to attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President is treason. There are criminal penalties noted fo…
I was responding to the following observation of Dr. Richardson's: "The report concludes that the efforts to subvert the DOJ were part of Trump’s attempt “to retain the presidency by any means necessary,”"
Subverting the DOJ to attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President is treason. There are criminal penalties noted for treason in the United States that start with arrest.
One of the other commenters noted that concern or fear may be holding the current administration back from arresting Trump for treason, which, would be appropriate at this point.
My comment is not meant as self indulgent or venting. My observation is to point out that Trump's army was ineffective and nothing to be afraid of. In fact, many of those who arrived Jan 6 were out of shape, overweight, recipients of SSD and welfare, hence, having the time to go on Trump's excursion. Anyone with a job, or a business, did not have three days to waste attempting to overthrow the government.
If Biden is holding back out of fear of consequences from Trump supporters, and I do not know if the other commenter is right, then, there is no need to be fearful of arresting a treasonous former President.
There is reason to be fearful if Trump is not arrested.
The article indicates that whites in counties with declining whit population were part of Trump’s ragtag assault on the Capitol. This info supports my assessment not refutes it. Maybe I misread?
Kim, There is nothing in the article for which you provided a link and the Washington Post article, which it referred to, that deals with or refutes Mike's descriptions of the insurrectionists. While Mike's generalizations may have been stereotyping, the link you provided concerns the areas in which many of the insurgents live and reasons for their attraction to Trump.
Kim, Thank you for posting the report, which you had indented. The Chicago Project on Security and Threats assessed '... 193 individuals arrested by FBI, Capitol Hill Police, and DC Police for entering the US Capitol or breaking into the Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021 and compared them to '...108 right-wing extremists arrested by FBI for deadly violence, 2015-2020 and other data on past right-wing extremists.' The differences between the two groups were very noteworthy. I am sorry that CPOST did not or could not indicate the percentage of those assessed with the total of arrests of people who also may have qualified to join the assessed group. Nevertheless, I second your recommendation that subscribers read the report. The characteristics of insurrectionists assessed may surprise readers.
Thanks for that link; apropos of nothing perhaps, former neighbors here in Maricopa county, white and retired, were at the rally but not the insurrection part….probably lots more like them there. Lots of AZ folks were “bad actors “ as well
"... many of those who arrived Jan 6 were out of shape, overweight, recipients of SSD and welfare, hence, having the time to go on Trump's excursion. Anyone with a job, or a business, did not have three days to waste ..."
How perfectly arrogant and ignorant of you, Mike S.
Lin,
I was responding to the following observation of Dr. Richardson's: "The report concludes that the efforts to subvert the DOJ were part of Trump’s attempt “to retain the presidency by any means necessary,”"
Subverting the DOJ to attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President is treason. There are criminal penalties noted for treason in the United States that start with arrest.
One of the other commenters noted that concern or fear may be holding the current administration back from arresting Trump for treason, which, would be appropriate at this point.
My comment is not meant as self indulgent or venting. My observation is to point out that Trump's army was ineffective and nothing to be afraid of. In fact, many of those who arrived Jan 6 were out of shape, overweight, recipients of SSD and welfare, hence, having the time to go on Trump's excursion. Anyone with a job, or a business, did not have three days to waste attempting to overthrow the government.
If Biden is holding back out of fear of consequences from Trump supporters, and I do not know if the other commenter is right, then, there is no need to be fearful of arresting a treasonous former President.
There is reason to be fearful if Trump is not arrested.
Actually, that assessment of the Jan 6 insurrectionists is incorrect.
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2021/04/a-look-at-demographics-of-the-jan-6-insurrectionists/
The article indicates that whites in counties with declining whit population were part of Trump’s ragtag assault on the Capitol. This info supports my assessment not refutes it. Maybe I misread?
Mike, Kim's second link is the one with report of the assessed insurrectionists. The results will surprise you, nd I suggest that you read it.
Exactly, Kim WA. Thank you.
Kim, There is nothing in the article for which you provided a link and the Washington Post article, which it referred to, that deals with or refutes Mike's descriptions of the insurrectionists. While Mike's generalizations may have been stereotyping, the link you provided concerns the areas in which many of the insurgents live and reasons for their attraction to Trump.
Fern, sorry about that. try this one:
https://d3qi0qp55mx5f5.cloudfront.net/cpost/i/docs/americas_insurrectionists_online_2021_01_29.pdf?mtime=1611966204
There are several publications regarding demographics of those folks.
Kim, Thank you for posting the report, which you had indented. The Chicago Project on Security and Threats assessed '... 193 individuals arrested by FBI, Capitol Hill Police, and DC Police for entering the US Capitol or breaking into the Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021 and compared them to '...108 right-wing extremists arrested by FBI for deadly violence, 2015-2020 and other data on past right-wing extremists.' The differences between the two groups were very noteworthy. I am sorry that CPOST did not or could not indicate the percentage of those assessed with the total of arrests of people who also may have qualified to join the assessed group. Nevertheless, I second your recommendation that subscribers read the report. The characteristics of insurrectionists assessed may surprise readers.
Thanks for that link; apropos of nothing perhaps, former neighbors here in Maricopa county, white and retired, were at the rally but not the insurrection part….probably lots more like them there. Lots of AZ folks were “bad actors “ as well
"... many of those who arrived Jan 6 were out of shape, overweight, recipients of SSD and welfare, hence, having the time to go on Trump's excursion. Anyone with a job, or a business, did not have three days to waste ..."
How perfectly arrogant and ignorant of you, Mike S.
Perhaps.