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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Kamala will be Madame President. She dominated the Fox interview and did so well that Baier announced that he will not conduct a debate between Trump and Kamala. Why? Because Kamala does not come to play. She comes with facts, figures, and compassion for the country and her people. I have my sister telling me that we will lose the Senate because Tester’s polls look bad and because of that dipshit, Manchin, West Virginia will elect a Republican. We don’t even have a Dem running in that state. I truly hope this isn’t true. I sure would like to see a clean sweep for both the House and Senate.

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J L Graham's avatar

Kamala is exhibiting the genuine strength of character that Trump's sociopathic shameless arrogance has been mistaken for.

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Kathy Hughes's avatar

Trump is a weakling posing as a strongman. He believes that bullying people will get him everywhere.

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JDinTX's avatar

And it has been very popular. A national shame

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T L Mills's avatar

I don't know why or where it came from but America, as a country, has always had a sort of dark streak in it's soul. There has always been a segment of our population that has liked & popularized bullies, bullying and cruelty. It occasionally peeps out in our literature and frequently in our culture and sometimes even gets celebrated by some folks. Trump has greeted this dark streak kindly--one could almost say happily--and he is one of those who celebrates it. Cruelty is the point.

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Rachel Simon's avatar

I do not think this is a uniquely American trait. Mans' inhumanity to man is seen around the world daily and throughout history.

The rare trait is understanding, kindness, compassion, and the bravery to protect.

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T L Mills's avatar

If I had to guess, I would say that the emotions triggered by hatred, violence and cruelty are perhaps stronger and more addictive (to those who have an addictive propensity) than the emotions created by love, peace compassion and contentment.

Of course many many different factors combine to influence our natures, so expressing our highest or lowest selves isn't solely the province of emotional triggers...but many people do tend to rely on emotions rather than reason in their daily lives.

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Dale Rowett's avatar

I agree, T L. My own explanation is that, in an effort to whitewash American history, we have pretended “facts” not in evidence. Consider that white Europeans who emigrated to North America weren’t all seeking “religious freedom.” I suspect that many of them were simply oddballs who couldn’t get along with their European neighbors. That was the first thread of the “dark streak.” The streak became deep and wide when these white Europeans confiscated at gunpoint the land from the Native Americans who were the rightful owners for literally thousands of years. Slavery made the streak indelible. Theft, violence and hate of “the other” have been in America’s DNA from the beginning. “Religious freedom” is just the deceptive packaging of the ugly product inside.

Do I hate the U.S.? No. But to borrow from A.A., the only way we can seek a cure for our disease is to admit that we have it.

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Gayle Cureton's avatar

Read 'American Nations' by Colin Woodard for a better understanding of where all the different ideas and beliefs that created our American politics came from. It sure opened my eyes!

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Karen Turley's avatar

Right on!!!

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

TL, it just may be that a country founded on genocide and enriched by enslavement has a very deep dark streak in its soul.

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T L Mills's avatar

And that we--or at least a segment of the population--refuse(s) to own it and teach the history makes sure that it continues to burden the conscience of the nation.

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Carol Fletez's avatar

Please note the number of programs in the media that are both popular and violent. As a watcher of even police dramas from France or Germany they do not stress the violent acts and views of same but finding the criminals who did the deeds. Look at the recent violence in Slow Horses or movies here.

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T L Mills's avatar

Oh I know. I can point a finger at several shows that are simply disgusting for their enshrinement of violence as the answer to every ill. Gaming, too. So many facets of culture here celebrate our least civilized impulses and tendencies.

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Marge Wherley's avatar

Carol, I’ve also been appalled by the percentage of programming that is focused on violence. All Crime All The Time. Three versions of FBI, three more of CSI and Law and Order. Movies, too; that’s where the violence is most gory.

It’s odd that with all the TV shows and movies focused on police, detectives, and forensics viewers don’t seem to have more respect for our police and criminal justice system. Instead there is less respect. Could it be that the occasional but real corrupt police actions magnified by the news media contrast too vividly with the idea of the Good Guys shown onscreen? That doesn’t make sense to me.

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Barbara S's avatar

The fascist streak has always been bigger than the socialist streak. All the wannabe fascists think that they will be the ones in control. They never see that the system itself tells them that they probably won't be.

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JDinTX's avatar

Just think of the Nazi lovers in the 30’s. And one could say what is more cruel than lynchings after church on Sunday with Jim Crow. And the beat goes on…

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

The lynchings were particularly cruel and inhuman.

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JDinTX's avatar

I couldn’t believe it. But they took pics and put on post cards to send around. Unf**kingbelievable

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Judy Croft Barkume's avatar

Even back to the days of cowboys and indians, gunman who went around robbing and killing were worshiped as heroes by some. I think our country and many others, have always had that dark streak. Human nature?

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Doug G's avatar

Trompy turned over the rocks hiding the gremlins and trolls and welcomed them into the MAGA movement which sadly became normalized for some.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

😢😢😢

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Virginia Witmer's avatar

Bullying is DT’s modus vivendi. Remember Roy Cohn and Fred Trump?

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

Like most bullies.

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

Vice President Harris proved what she needed to prove above all: that she is tougher than candidate Trump.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Marlene, Thank you for eloquently representing Kamala’s commanding performance and for informing us of Baier announcing he wouldn’t moderate a presidential debate (I wasn’t aware). As for the Senate, I encourage all of us to remember, excluding Manchin and Sinema, we currently have 49 Senate Dems whose seats we need to defend. Admittedly, because we could lose some, we must focus on additional races, wherein our candidates are most competitive. In my view, they include 1) Ruben Gallego (D-AZ); 2) Dan Osborn (I-NE) (As for Dan, I would note, while he has announced he won’t caucus with either party, his win would take out the incumbent Republican); 3) Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (D-FL); 4) Colin Allred (D-TX); 5) Angela Alsobrooks (D-MD).

I would note this list is not exhaustive and would add, that with 20 days until Election Day, my hope is that we’re all laser-focused on phone banking and canvassing, the latter possibly entailing travel to a battleground state closest to home.

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PamC's avatar

Barbara, excellent comments, Don’t forget Lucas Kunce to replace the Repug Josh Hawley. And we need Sherrod Brown in OH and Jon Tester of Montana to hold the Senate.

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Swbv's avatar

Sending Hawley packing, in and of itself, would be a national service for all Americans, not just for the citizens of the Show-Me state.

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Ellen's avatar

Ditto with Ted Cruz in Texas.

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Swbv's avatar

That's for sure

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Pam, Thanks for writing. I would note I didn’t include Brown and Tester because my list was comprised of likely prospects who could help us retain a Senate majority were we to lose any of the 49 seats we currently hold. As for Kunce, regrettably, the last time I checked, he was down by several points.

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Marge Wherley's avatar

If the polling data is dominated by Republican-affiliated polls, that might very well affect the numbers we’re seeing for down-ballot races? It’s a strategic ploy by Republicans to create the appearance that Democrats will lose (and perhaps fuel Trumpian claims of election rigging if/when he loses). Also it steers big donors to bet on the winning Republicans.

I think polls are over-rated and emphasize horse-race reporting, to the detriment of deeper analysis. So easy to pre-determine the numbers by the selection process.

I’m totally ignoring polls right now. For my own sanity as well as my disgust with rigging by Rethugs.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Marge, While I would not dispute any of your points, seeing there’s a limited amount of calories we can spend and Kunce’s numbers have been consistently down, I would submit we have to prioritize if we’re to hold the Senate or any other body, for that matter.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

Yes, indeed.

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PamC's avatar

Thanks for the correction Barbara!! Totally understand.

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MisTBlu's avatar

If Dan is elected but refuses to caucus with the Ds or Rs he may be limiting his long-term success in the Senate given the way committee assignments are doled out.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

MisTBlu, In my view, Dan, whose policy positions, btw, seem more closely aligned with Democrats, despite not being given committee assignments, would be mighty relevant in the chamber as each party vied for what could be the tie-breaking vote.

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MisTBlu's avatar

Yes, he would be important in a head count. But if he plans on serving more than one term in the Senate he'd be limiting his options as those who don't caucus don't get the juicy assignments.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

MisTBlu, I don’t imagine anyone, least of all Dan, is thinking 6 years down the road. I listed him because I believe he has a good shot at winning in 2024.

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MisTBlu's avatar

Understood. To me it's unfortunate to not consider running for the senate as a new career in which one wants to gain in knowledge, accumulate influence and have longevity.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

MisTBlu, In the alternative, one could point to numerous examples of elected officials so intent on keeping their jobs that they neglect to do their jobs.

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MisTBlu's avatar

For sure.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

Angus King (I-ME) said the same thing when he first ran for the Senate. He has caucused with the Dems since then. He is up for reelection and hasn't received a penny from the Democrats.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk is donating to House candidates giving millions. This includes in ME-2 where a 30 year old ex-Nascar driver is running against Jared Golden.

He said he supports women's reproductive care, but if he wins we all know how he will vote.

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MisTBlu's avatar

To me, his caucusing with the Dens is more about his career than alignment with the party. You say they haven't given him any money. Has he raised funds them or campaigned for Dem candidates? Those are generally the actions that are expected of those who want support from the party.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

Senator Collins lobbied him 12 years ago to caucus with the Republicans and he chose to caucus with the Democrats. He has been working with Jon Tester to raise money for both of their campaigns. When you give to either of them they split the money with the other one. It was clever and different so I pitched in.

I have been represented by over 30 differentt Senators in 10 different states and Angus King represents his constituents better than any of the others. That's not a knock on the others, but high praise for Senator King.

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Elaine in MI's avatar

I contribute monthly to each of these and Kunce, Slotkin, Tester and Brown. There are some House seats also on my list. It's a stretch, but it makes me feel good. From now on, it's only one month to go.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Elaine, In my view, our donation choices reflect both personal and strategic factors. I would note I, too, donate both to Brown and to Tester. I didn’t mention them in my original comment because that listing was comprised of likely prospects who could help us retain a Senate majority were we to lose any of the 49 seats we currently hold.

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Carol Fletez's avatar

Thanks for mentioning Alsobrrooks here in Maryland. We've had quite enough of Hogan. On his head are the no money for the bridge bumpers that might have saved the Key Bridge and yes man to Trump despite his supposed no Trump attitude.

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Gail Adams VA/FL's avatar

I did not know that! How shortsighted.

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Carol Stanton (FL)'s avatar

Barbara Jo......or just stay at home and support for us Floridians!

Debbie Mucarsel- Powell has just come out with the best ad against the cadaverous Rick Scott....it follows a big, slithering python with Scott's face on it! At the end she says" he has squeezed us enough. Time to elect a Senator with a spine!"

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Carol, I would note the point of my comment was to cite those I deemed the best strategic choices, which, of course, included Debbie.

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lauriemcf's avatar

well, now I have to go make a donation to Tester! I've never before contributed to so many out of state candidates -- we have to do all we can to move past the Trumpster Dumpster fire.

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Jean Andreasen's avatar

There is one more Senate seat that we should be able to flip. If you can, donate to Democrat Katrina Christiansen who is running to unseat Republican Senator Kevin Cramer (the author of the national abortion ban legislation) in North Dakota.

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Dick Montagne's avatar

Me too, I have been donating monthly to Senate races none of which are here in GA. If I support Kamala why wouldn’t I want her to have a senate that will work with her, it seems a no-brainer. Don’t forget Texas we can get rid of Cancun Cruise and wouldn’t that be sweet.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

That would be soooo wonderful!

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JDinTX's avatar

So true

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Ally House (Oregon)'s avatar

Same here, Laurie. I just sent more to Brown. Tester is next, after the 24th.

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Anne-Louise Luccarini's avatar

House and Senate - never been more important.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

Absolutely!

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gwHornPlayer's avatar

Everyone seems to agree that the Senate is a tough map for the Dems this year. And Tester is behind (by about 7) if the polls are correct. Colin Allred does have a shot at flipping Texas and Debbie Muscarel-Powell may also have a shot at flipping Florida. Damn near every race looks to be tight as tick. We just have to hope that enough Americans in enough of the right places see through the cynical, hateful lies and disinformation of Trump and other right wing media liars.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

IMHO only because the polls miss the effect of groups like FT 6, Movement Labs, and the power of Gen Z, Swifties, David Hogg, et al.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

@ Marlene,

W VA-- former Wheeling Mayor Glenn Elliott. It is within the realm of possibilities that Gov Jim Justice's legal problems can undermine his huge registration advantage. https://westvirginiawatch.com/2024/10/16/second-greenbrier-auction-averted-justice-family-refinances-debt/

We have a good chance in FL and TX.

Support Katrina Christiansen and Lucas Kunce.

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Joy Cunningham's avatar

Everyone please follow Simon Rosenburg and use his links to donate to the Senate races that need it most

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Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

Marlene, the down-ballot races are the ones I am really sweating bullets about. Dems are notoriously bad about pushing against the Christo-fascist Rethuglican takeover of local political institutions. I read that two-thirds of local election seats are UNOPPOSED, and the majority of those, I would suggest, are currently held by the anti-Democratic side. If the Dems don't prosecute every single damned political position, and if Dems, who are notoriously lazy about voting (consistently under 50% of registered Dems actually turn out and vote), don't go to the polls, we are sunk. We need all hands on deck. We. Have. To. Bury. Them. A squeaker is NOT an option. But Dems are uninterested unless there is an existential threat--and even then, they think only of the federal elections and not the local ones. I am hopeful (to some extent) about keeping control of the White House this year but very very worried about Congress. And that means I might be looking at flats in Wales for me and my standard poodle come January.

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

There are a couple of Senate candidates that are leading the Republican incumbent--in NE and FL And Ted Cruz, who is highly unpopular looked the fool in his debate with Colin Allred.

Jon Tester may be in trouble and Sherrod Brown too, but all of these races are too close to call.

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Dutch Mike's avatar

I'm really surprised Fox didn't cut away as Kamala let loose... No minute-long beep, no changing the picture to a video of a cheering Trump crowd... I'm really, really surprised.

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MadRussian12A's avatar

Well Marlene, it would appear that 'the advertisers' helping to fund Faux are increasingly finding #45 to be bad juju for product sales. Hence we see FNB serving notice to the (R)ss-hole party regarding some adjustments necessary to appeal to a more discriminating listening audience. $$$'s talk. That would include my neighbor across the street with his 'big screen' visible thru his living room window so everyone can see Faux News from the street. Whew!!

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Frank Loomer's avatar

Agreed, i think there may be a few slim chances in that tight lineup. I think Manchin was a strange energy support bastion in that ruby red state. To think he was musing running for President for a bit back there...

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HulitC's avatar

The Dems have Glenn Elliott, but he is so far behind in the polls as to be nonexistent

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Jon Rosen's avatar

Sadly it is true. As you noted there is no Dem running on WV as it is considered a waste of political capital. WV hasn't elected a statewide Dem except Manchin in something like 40+ years and had the highest margin for Trump in 2020. Manchin was always a total anomaly and it was a disaster to "write him off" because it was known to be a guaranteed assignment of another Senate seat to a Republican. And Tester is down by 8+points, in Montana, a state he has narrowly won twice before but never in an election where Trump was on the ballot.

We are virtually certain to lose the Senate so we'd better take whatever tranquilizers we need to prepare and move on to making absolutely sure we can take the White House and the House of Reps.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

Please, oh please!!! 🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞

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