CBS, NBC, ABC - are they covering Milley story right now?? This should be the main story everywhere should it not - on every base domestic and overseas - so every American might hear it esp our military folks and their families
Trump is ‘fascist to the core,’ Milley says in Woodward book
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says Trump is “the most dangerous person to this country,” echoing dire warnings of others in national security circles.
"Trump’s former national security advisor, retired General Michael Flynn, who pled guilty under oath twice to lying to the FBI only to get a pardon from Trump, was vocal over the weekend about what a future under Trump would look like. He was asked at the Rod of Iron Freedom Festival Friday night if he'd “sit at the head of a military tribunal to not only drain the swamp, but imprison the swamp, and on a few occasions, execute the swamp.” Flynn responded, “What your sentiment is about is accountability … I definitely believe we need accountability.” After pointing out Trump would need to win first for there to be “a way to get after this,” Flynn concluded, “These people are already up to no good … We win, and then Katie Bar the door. Believe me, the gates of hell, my hell will be unleashed.”"
Dems will be vanquished along with any opposition. Don’t you think it’s why the cowardly repubs won’t oppose him. Save my arse, screw the country. The Lincoln Project people will be right behind Liz and Adam.
Actually, as I read Project 2025, with my Democrats Abroad Project 2025 book club there is so much to fear. Certainly the military is going to be in chaos for one with what is planned. These people really want to destroy our nation and thus get rid of the Constitution which they want to refashion as a White Supremacist Christian Nationalist Utopia. Ironically, like the Crusaders of the 30 years war in Europe, they are using "faith" and supposed Christianity to claim the moral high ground for taking over our country and reaffirming it as a White, male paradise. Since the US is already a White Supremacist society since its founding, but has moved far from that ideal at this point with hard fought battles, and resistance, where women, LGBTQ+, and immigrants with all shades of brown skin, and all sorts of physical characteristics, cultural backgrounds, and religions have been able to shape the destiny of this country too. Who I would like to see being reached with this message is not the immovable MAGAs, but the college students who say change the Israel policy or they won't vote for Harris. However, the difficulty with this group, is that the frontal cortex does not fully develop until 24-30. That is the part of the brain responsible for complex problem solving, critical thinking and delayed gratification. All of these would be required for them to take a long term good perspective on the election now. Many are able to do it, but some are also so caught up in their cause that they don't see that a Trump presidency will possibly be worse for people of Gaza, as there will be no more funding for humanitarian aid under such an administration, and Israel will have the full Christian Nationalist backing. Not only that, but they will be shipped to other countries, or rounded up and put into concentration camps for protesting because there will be no free speech. It would be instructive to have them look at Russia and see what happens there, because that is their likely fate. Democratic politician David Pepper has written a series that is turned into a podcast as well, called Trumps Project 2025, which is a fictionalized version of what life would be like under Project 2025 if implemented. Here is a link.
Flynn strongly supports turning the IUS into a one religion Christian country. Of course, Hitler advocated the same thing, but actually had no plans to do so, just a concept of a plan.
He'd certainly recall Flynn. And in the cabinet room, he'd have empty chairs. He'd have Bannon, Miller, Flynn, and Musk setting all policies that matter. John Eastman for DOJ? Maybe.
Well-executed, decisive defense of news outlets, lin. The news industry may be flailing to reestablish and undergird its primary purpose, but it is making serious attempts. We can only hope it succeeds in time. We can’t have a sound democracy without reliable conduits of truth.
Don Lemmon said on IHIPNEWS that if a reporter does not tow the corporate line.......what the billionaire owner wants..........their contract will be terminated in 2 months.
Maybe Melinda Gates and Lauren Powell Jobs should start a new newspaper that actually reports on stuff the mainstream media is minimizing. The most prevalent story I've seen in the NYT and WaPo (other than the excellent and heartbreaking story about the Ukrainian child who died of eye cancer because she could not get timely treatment due to the war) is that Harris' campaign is "stalled."
A Washington Post story of one family/school system/community experience of Florida transitioning from a state which supported civil rights to DeSantis' fevered iteration of systemic GOP bigotry.
"Her trans daughter made the volleyball team. Then an armed officer showed up."
Sorry this is just nonsense. The NYT had s host of articles on Harris this weekend many of them very favorable contrasted to their views on Trump. I don't know WHAT you are looking at but if you go to Nytimes.com and look under US -> Politics there is a whole list of articles most of which are unbiased but still show a definite understanding that Harris is trying to provide truth and Trump is mostly lying or making it up. I encourage you to actually LOOK at what they are reporting before making highly erroneous statements about their coverage.
On this point, we are in agreement. The NYT and WAPO are covering General Miley’s comments in Bob Woodward’s new book extensively.
There is, however, the factor of ‘’Both Sidesism’’ practiced by large segments of the media, that benefits Trump by covering him as if he were somehow a legitimate opponent to VP Harris.
Professor Timothy Snyder discusses it at length in his October 12 Substack, ‘’Both Sides’’.
His piece is too dense for a nutshell synopsis, but the following quote gives one a taste of his argument.
"Why does American television and press “both-sides” our politics? Why are such different presidential candidates presented as equally flawed? Why do the outrages of Trump, for example at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, lead to the humiliation of Biden?
Both-Sidesism is the habit of reducing the world into two perspectives, treating the two as fundamentally alike, and then ignoring or adjusting the data. One cause of this odd behavior is the ownership of media companies. Another is fear.''
I know a former cop that long ago developed a private investigation unit. We are set to have coffee so to discuss business. So I mentioned politics and sure enough, he is an avowed Trump-supporter. I tried to make him see the danger in Trump. But he put down democrats as I knew he would. He brought up the border and indeed, Biden allowed the border issues to compound over 3 years until early this year. And now we are all paying for this intransigence.
I hope you mentioned that Congress (immigration reform IS their job after all!) DID have a tought & robust border bill co-authored by Langford of Oklahoma that Trump quashed at the last minute, lest Biden have any kind of a "win" leading into the election.
Plus - we can work together (in an ideal world) on issues like immigration, fair taxation, health care, even reproductive rights - but we aren't going to able to fix some of what I fear Trump is planning to break, both domestically and around the world. He is so corrupt, so easily flattered and manipulated. How do the elected Republican officals (all but a few) sleep at night or face their families?
They want to win, simple as that. Truth doesn't matter to them at all. What is sad to me is that many of you here who should be my allies in opposing Trump do the same thing, i.e. make up stuff which simply isn't true, specifically your unwarranted attacks against the mainstream media saying they only support Trump which is total BS. READ the fricking papers or websites of NYT, WaPo, the major networks, you who do this are spreading lies just like the Trump side does and it so dismays me. Sigh...
What I have tried to suggest is this; Biden didn’t want to in any way, continue in the footsteps of Trump on border issues. I’m not talking about a stupid wall although I might not fully discount that. No, he could have issued an executive order but as his homeland secretary Myorka once said, “It wouldn’t hold up in court.” How myopic a response. Send troops to the border. It was out of control. And whether you believe it or not, the issue is being used against our side. Rather successfully. Some folks can be real dense.
Bill, please tell us exactly how you would have handled the border problems without funding from Congress. Please tell us how you would have decreased the flow of fentanyl which is primarily smuggled by Americans without additional and better detection equipment. And please tell me how we could stem the inevitable tide of humanity fleeing nations run by gangs and ravaged by the Climate Catastrophe.
The potential solutions for much of this were negotiated in Congress, passed in the Senate and about to pass in the House. Trump called the Speaker and killed it.
Earth to Bill Katz: TRUMP is to blame for worsening a big problem. Blaming Biden is allowing yourself to be drawn into the trap set by the wannabe dictator and his Nazi advisor Miller.
The Repubs WANT the border problem, because that's all they've got. How much time on immigrants does Trump spend in his rallies? And the rest of the time he's saying brilliant stuff like "Kamala is stupid. Biden is crooked. I'm the best president ever. He's the worst preident ever. I'll protect women like they've never been protected before. Drill baby, drill." His campaign is a joke and he's playing to emotion rather than intelligence in the commoners, and the oligarchs don't care about all that, they just want business protected.
Jon, it is hard not to question the media when there are stats out there like the one which published a huge number of reports on the release of new email carp by Comey on Clinton just before the election, yet published far, far less on the information that was in Jack Smith's revised charging document regarding fpotus's criminal activities around January 6th. Or how there were 50 references to Biden's age to every 1 of fpotus's. Those are what lead me to believe that corporate media is at the very least hedging their bets, if not outright supporting fpotus.
"...unwarranted attacks against the mainstream media saying they only support Trump which is total." Now you're making stuff up. The discussion about the media is more complex than that, a Democrat tendency. And of ocurse, the alleged making stuff up about media reporting vs. immigrants eating cats, immigrant crime, Obama not born here, Kamala not working for McDonald's, oh, and the election not being legitimate... you prove the Dems point right there. The two sides are not equal. That is the argument.
SF, it does not seem to matter with some folks that immigration reform is a Congressional obligation. They only want to blame Biden for not doing Congress's job.
President Biden pulled off a miracle rescuing America from Orange Hitlers 4 years of tyranny. The border bill took time to prepare and was bi-partisan. It was Donable Lector that instructed Moses Mike to kill that bill when it was ready. No way should should we get sucked into The Dickwads immigrant-border fascist rhetoric.
Some people just can't understand the abstract. Trump's words that Heather quoted draw a straight line to fascism and genocide. But if you don't understand the abstract you can't get past the scary bad guy immigrant language. Until, as Heather quoted Hoffer, you are part of the genocide or race war and you can't afford to admit the truth.
'Hell WG, some people lack critical thinking skills and believe that democrats control hurricanes and direct them only to “red” states. If they believe that, they will believe anything that their “leaders” say!.
One of our gerrymandered General Assembly members repeated this nonsense this week, and she immediately got called out on it. The GQP wants you to believe in the stupidity.
Yeah funny how earthquakes and fires in blue states are "punishment from God" but tornados and hurricanes in red states are caused by "Democrats controlling the weather"
I'm convinced, Daniel, that if Trump wins by whatever means, we will experience a bloodbath as the psychopath seeks to purge the country of his "enemies." Thanks for the link to the clip.
Would there be a plan for mass deportations if people with white skin were the immigrants streaming into our nation? Would their blood be poison and their genes be criminal?
Most Americans don’t want to face the racism used to keep us divided so elites can hold onto and expand their power.
It’s not just poor, displaced people voting for Trump and the Rs. White people are the only group that vote in higher percentages for the fascism we can see coming. Too many feel they need to be protected from “others”.
As Trump told them this is that last chance they have to “take their country back”. I’ve always wondered who they’re taking it back from…America has never been a “white country” because indigenous people and Africans were here from the beginning.
As a “nation of laws” slaveholders established laws and customs designed to keep the masses divided so they could control labor and power. They used skin color as a dividing line.
White supremacy is woven throughout our society. We’ve made some progress but not enough. We’re reaping what the “founders” sowed.
Not so, Bill. Biden said he would sign the strongest border security and imigration bill ever written, by very conservative Rebuplicans, in conjuction with Democrats who let them have everything they wanted, just to get it done and signed, and Trump told the Senate and House to kill it so he could keep it as a campaign focus, which he has.
Trump had no authority to do this as he is a private citizen, even if he thinks he should still be president. The Republicans are more loyal to him than their Constitutional obligations and oaths, and it is quite scary to see them do this. It’s quite clear Trump sees himself as above the law, when the Founders intended for the President to be subject to the law. Roberts behaves with surprise that the public hates his decision to put Trump above the law, which shows he really must get out of his ivory tower. The justices who decided U.S. v. Trump just decided to throw out 245 years of precedent to enable a wannabe dictator. Many people are very well aware of this, and are understandably angry about it.
To be accurate Trump as a private citizen has just as much right to "lobby" Congress as you or I do. It's just that his efforts work because the GOP MAGA senators want his support. They don't care what we say. If you were correct that he had no "authority" to lobby Congress then none of us would. The problem is you just don't like that he "won" but that's the nature of politics.
It’s funny the two worlds of reality. Yours and mine. Commencing under Biden, I read and viewed hundreds of thousands running across the border and you didn’t. It’s an excuse you wish to utilize that Biden couldn’t do anything but a president has assume powers. He could have reacted early and didn’t. I saw this border issue brewing for a future campaign issue and it has come to pass. Take the blinders off, please.
"Biden allowed the border issues to compound over 3 years until early this year" ??????????????? Are you kidding? The Republicans killed the bipartisan immigration bill that Biden wanted to sign.
We’ve had almost 4 years of the GQP bitching, moaning, and lying about it. President Biden kept many of Trump’s policies in place, without separating families.
Biden did zip on immigration for 3 years. Bill is absolutely correct. Personally I was totally in support of his lack of legislation because for me the borders should be open. Draconian anti immigrant positions are TERRIBLE for the country. Bill and I totally disagree on that. But it is absolutely true that Biden let this slide until after he started losing in the race and then stepped aside.
The GOP supported his change of heart and they drafted most of the new bill but Trump demanded that the GOP vote no on their own bill. That was "good politics" for them, horrible for us and the country.
By watching the news from the last four years. I didn't just show up to this party at the convention, I have followed politics religiously for 50+ years. I read the NYT and occasionally the WaPo and watch PBS News every night along with most of the MSNBC programs some CNN and read Heather every day. I can't follow everything of course but I try to look at the most important and reliable sources. Sorry if that is TMI but you asked. I repeat for the years the Biden administration did very little to deal with the immigration issues. And again my support is for open borders but I do not expect that to ever fly. He certainly did very little until this year's attempt at a new border bill. This my "zip" comment. It may have been slightly overstated but if you look at what was done it was very little until this year.
Jon, a simple google search shows that this is not true. Just read a Wikipedia article about Biden’s border policies throughout his term, with his first executive order on January 26, 2021.
The border has been an intractable problem for years. Trump’s violent rhetoric only serves to make it harder for us ever to reach a consensus on how to manage it. When even our own side has bought into some of this blame throwing, I wonder what hope we have of finding a solution.
The fact is nobody can "fix" it. If you want absolute correct enforcement, you need to deport about 15 million people many of whom currently work illegally picking our crops, cleaning our houses, building what little housing we currently build because Americans don't want the lousy pay.
Or you let them stay and piss off everyone who wants to be tough on illegal immigration.
The only sane solution to me is to just open our borders and let people in. Get rid of the crisis in "illegals" because if no one is illegal, there is no crisis.
I just hired a Latina mama to clean my stove and refrigerator and she worked her butt off. (Truth be known, she is a Puerto Rican American but she could clean better than I could.)
Why does NO ONE bring up the facts that Trump's 4 year response to the "open Southern border" was to add a net 400 agents (when he promised to add 15000), less than 50 miles of a new border fence. (Anyone that calls it a wall hasn't seen pictures), separating children from their parents and putting migrants in cages that were so filthy that Mike Pence couldn't even go inside.
What if Trump had actually hired the 15000 additional agents and placed them in places where they could actually do something? And what if his crappy wall wasn't built so that any 12 year old with a saws-all could breach it. Trump's wall has not been breached over 5000 times and counting. They have full time crews fixing the holes.
And which countries are actually going to allow our deportees to be returned? Good luck with that. Trump isn't going to round up Europeans unless their skin isn't white. And what about indigenous people? Where is he going to deport them to? South Dakota?
Coño! Trump is a fascist. I said that before he was ever elected . He is following the model of that model citizen Hitler! And he wants to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF again! I say hell no! That bombastic, thin skinned, orange snowflake, draft evader (Corporal BONESPUR), anti-constitution, dog whistling, misogynistic, rapist is contemplating deporting immigrants and Stephen Miller appears to be the person chosen to lead the deportation effort, including people like me who are; immigrant, non-white, hispanic, naturalized, 20 year disabled, honorably discharged veteran whom he would denaturalize. El condenado ex president is laying the groundwork for overturning the election should he lose…. AND….that bastard should lose by a landslide. But my friends, there are to many folks who have swallowed the trump milk and aren’t aware if the succeed in either getting him elected or overturning our duly elected president by coup it will curdle in their mouth. Trump has said he wants to get rid of the CONSTITUTION and when he does, because there will be no constitution, there will be no second amendment protection to prevent him from pulling an Vikto Orbán and taking up all the guns! He and his predecessors former republican presidents have filled the federal courts with lifetime appointments of extremist perjurers on the bench. So you magaites that may read this, know that is what you are supporting . Not liberty and the pursuit of happiness. NO you are supporting a fascist hitler wannabe Putin and Kim loving convict!
Mis amigos, colegas, familia y inmigrantes dé países hispanoamericanas y islas caribeñas el carbón, ex-presidente candidato condenado , nos quiere echar de nuestro país adoptado. Él quiere desnaturalizarnos y echarnos. Ese hijo de puta, casado con una inmigrante ella misma no la echara. Porque? me preguntas, PORQUE ELLA NO ES NEGRA, Ni TRIGUEÑA. Es una pura estupidez que cualquier hispano naturalizado, veterano de las fuerzas militares American vaya a votar para el condenado violador. Te los suplico. No lo hagas!
El voto para la democracia y la justicia es el voto para Kamala Harris.
Biden did not allow it alone. No border bill was passed and there have been plenty, not just this last one. Also, someone needs to be reporting the story but everyone in this country gets their news from different sources. The freedom that the Internet was supposed to give us has meant that there is no source that people turn to as a trusted guide for information. White men with a grievance want to have their vengance on the planet through Trump, the ultimate White man with a grievance. They will ultimately destroy themselves and each other, and ideally people would be leaving in droves, not coming in droves. They are moving just ahead of the storm.
This is called "brainwashing". Find a favorite prejudice or fear and FEED IT!!!!
Are we just going to watch???
There are Americans who are participating in the election of Kamala Harris, a truly great candidate who knows and honors the law. She is supported by most of the members of the Democratic Party.
We have great fellow Americans in this country who do NOT want to be controlled by those persons, foreign and homegrown, who are pumping up Donald Trump...who are using him to gain power for themselves.
Our vote and the security of that precious vote has never been so very serious.
Vote for the Kamala/Waltz ticket and the SUPPORT, SUPPORT, SUPPORT.
I love living in a nation of color!!! I love the cultures and foods and music and poetry and books and dancing......all the various ways of looking at life we have around us in the big beautiful country.
If an American believes this is all about Donald Trump, you are really blind.
The real mystery is who is attempting to use this "wind bag" for their own personal gain and for the destruction of the USA?
You do realize that virtually everyone here agrees with you. And that such time spent reiterating it here is totally wasted. You need to be sending this out to the mainstream media which is where the people who are seriously still in doubt are looking. None of them read Heather Richardson, trust me on that. If you want Harris to win spend more time letting the REST of the world know this rather than telling all of us who already agree with you.
You do realize you’ve missed her point with a dismissive mansplain and then proceeded to launch into your repetitive defense of MSM, yes? Interesting that you find Emily’s comment “totally wasted”, yet find your POV worthy of repetition.
People use emotions not intellect when voting. The MAGAs are pushing border. Harris and company must push women dying trying to get healthcare on account of losing trump’s row verses Wade. It’s that simple. Nothing else matters.
Bill Katz, I went down the rabbit-hole last night with this Vanity fair article that was about Steven Bannon - but really sooooo much more. It was about your friend, the former cop, and the ideology cloud you find him in. The article made me more aware that trump is a problem, but the bigger problem is the “army” that Bannon, and Steve Miller et.al are shaping. It’s tied to world finance/american imperialism/“traditionalism” (which is guy-speak for misogyny and the strengthening of failed patriarchy). You may get a better sense of how to speak to your friend by reading this. https://apple.news/AQDUUoDLkR-eQCP4_WYmOoA
Let's not forget there was a bipartisan border bill that was tanked by Trump. First time in history, to my knowledge, that a FORMER president was orchestrating policy.
NBC covered this story quite effectively including Liz Cheneys comment that she had no reason to disagree with Milley's assessment that Trump is a fascist.
I get very upset when people ignore the facts and accuse major mainstream media of not covering these important stories. It is just as wrong for us the provide misinformation as when Trump does it. Actually I think it is worse because we KNOW Trump had no connection to reality but we are supposed to be better than that. PLEASE PLEASE do not just slander the major press sites with unnecessary misinformation. We need them to win this election. Attacking them doesn't help.
If course they aren't. The legacy media backs Trump because he "brings controversy," and "controversy" brings eyeballs=ratings=profitability to the failing legacy media so the intergalactic widgetmakers who own them can sell them off. (As Jeff Zucker put it when h was criticized in 2016 for CNN covering all of Trump's hatealongs, "Donald Trump brings high ratings")
As with every other crime committed by corporate America, Follow. The. Money. All will be revealed.
Agreed. However, I think we are perhaps reaching a dangerous turning point with Trump/MAGA where the demagoguery instigated by them, backed by corporate privateers and ignorant billionaires, is turning into uncontrollable bloodlust and the passive societal condoning of violent atrocities against innocents targeted by aforementioned CEO’s political puppets. As it did in Weimar.
Sorry more nonsense here. The mainstream media does NOT "back" Trump. Prove it. A few outlets (Fox News, WSJ and a few others) do but most of the major outlets do not. Certainly not the NYT or WaPo nor the major networks nor PBS. They do cover him a lot but he had been more active on the "interview" circuits altho Kamala has picked that up in the past week or so. Coverage is NOT support. It is what news organizations are supposed to do.
But it seems a lot of people here do not understand how news organizations work which is sad because that should have been part of their civics education in high school.
Jen Psaki is not hedging any bets. Jen's guest on her Saturday show, Inside With Jen Psaki at the 21 minute mark was NEAL KATYA,L the former U.S. Solicitor & the top appellate attorney in the Land. Neal opened his answers to Jen Psaki with the following statement:
"Normally I am voice of calm". Not yesterday. Neal sated that the Country is facing a "coming massive crises" from 11/5/24 the election date to 1/6/2025 next year & beyond.
Neal reminded the Nation that in the 2020 National election Trump lost the electoral vote count by seventy-four (74) electoral votes. Biden received 306, Trump got only 232. Thus, in 2020 Trump had to "run the table" meaning he overturn the election tax in many states while disenfranchising millions of Voters.
Citing Jen Psaki's data at the opening of her show, Neal said upcoming national election
may be decided only by 1 or 2 states.
Trump will put "massive pressure" on the following targets in those few states:
*. Declare Victory regardless of true final results;
* Pressure the state Courts;
* Pressure the state Legislatures;
*. Pressure state Governors - "I only need ..."
* Manipulate local election boards like in GA to disrupt state certification
The Electoral Reform Act has created some weak guardrails that Neal Katyal believes can be overturned by simple majority votes.
Take personal political & democratic actions. I note that 2 states have replaced the now missing Voting Rights Act (VRA) with state equivalents of the same legal protections including Minnesota on 5/24 & New York on 6/22. Michigan, Florida, New Jersey & Maryland have similar Legislation in the works. Check your state & support these positive state actions.
I have already voted by mail. I will track the fact of both receipt & the counting of my vote.
Every positive action is another step forward in a resounding victory for Kam & the Union.
Bob Woodward will be on Lawrence on Monday Night. We truly are in this together.
Counsellor, thanks for the post and the heads up on Woodward. I'll have to record it; I'll be watching the conductor at 7:00 PDT (allegedly; I will be in the back row; watching the conductor is never a guarantee except on SOTU nights...)
If you really believe this you have already admitted defeat. Because if the MSM truly actually supports Trump (which I believe to be nonsense) he will never be defeated. I acknowledge that a few big MSM outlets support him (Fox, WSJ) but most are either neutral or actually support Harris at least somewhat. Please stop the fear mongering and work like hell to get more purple to the polls. Particularly in the swing states.
I just want the election to be over. These increasingly desperate antics prove who is going win. Let us get on with Vice President Harris and Governor Gipper dispatching candidate Trump and Senator Shady Vance to the great dust-bin of history.
We know who Trump is- the point now is to vote, vote ,and vote. Remind other democrats to vote- make calls- offer to help if there is confusion about how to vote or where to vote. And it doesn't matter if you're from a blue state- vote anyway- the more votes the better and the stronger the case for getting rid of the electoral college the more obvious it becomes that it stands in the way of true democracy.
Absolutely! I am à horrified Swiss woman. Trump is a danger to the world! Why isn’t this story making headlines and being presented on all media now. Has it been written on X ? Truth Social, Fox News etc ?
You will never, never, never see that on the three sources you list. Sadly, those are the gospel sources for the fascist idiots that now make up the MAGAts of our country.
Gen. Mark Milley: “He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country…a fascist to the core.”
Trump supports Putin, a war criminal who has and is killing thousands of innocent Ukranian men, women and children. What does this say about those who support Trump? Christians? Matthew 25: 34-46 - "Even as you do it unto the least of these." I'll venture an opinion: they are Christians in name only, on the one hand, and seriously lack critical thinking skills, on the other hand.
It is terrifying to think that the language, the vitriol, the contempt oozing from a desperate Trump could well incite violence, violent protests again. The former president disrespects every norm, every boundary in his grab at power. Milley nails it: Trump is full on fascist.
Yes, but those dots only appear later. Or at least, I've never figured out how to correct a comment immediately after posting. The dots show up after a reader responds to the comments. I corrected immediately after posting in the reply, but fixed it now.
Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.
“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”
He's a fascist for sure. Not unrelated, he's also a male chauvinist. Just remember, he wants all women to tow a line that he and SCOTUS set because it's all about power. But, in this case, it's about Evangelical white men setting the rules. I am beyond stunned that there are indeed women in our country who will vote for Trump and against themselves. But there are.
But his voters and those in thrall to him in the GOP also support this, also are as disrespectful of norms, also fascists. It is easy to blame Trump. I no longer believe his voters are good people. They simply are not. He has told and shown everyone who and what he is, and half the US public thinks someone not acceptable in any position of public trust, not even dog-catcher, should be handed the nuclear codes.
Steve, I am beginning to believe that of my former work cohort. Thrall seems to be the descriptive term; they've shut off their brains. A supervisor who once told me "you have to listen to each side as though they are telling the truth, and then figure out what happened" has now told me I've "drunk the liberal kool-aid" and refuses to see any other information. This guy is also a minister. Scares the crud out of me.
In 2016 the election was between Hillary Clinton, a much hated woman for many and diverse reasons, and Donald Trump, a tv performer thought to be a successful billionaire business man. After 4 years of incompetent governance 81 million voters fired Trump . The winner, Joe Biden, had campaigned from his basement. As President Biden overcame Covid, reduced inflation and oversaw legislation that put the economy squarely back on its feet while avoiding a recession and creating millions of new jobs. Trump advanced a dystopian view of everything without relation to fact. A majority of Americans are not ignorant or evil enough to fall for the rantings of a narcissistic sociopath. They rejected him in 2020. There’s no reason they will change their minds to now support Trump in 2024 and reject a well liked, competent and articulate Kamala Harris. Harris will win in a landslide.
I’m so hoping you’re right. I’m so scared and worried right now after reading tonight’s article… which I admit I have been for months … You make perfect sense. I’ve already voted … we all have to vote … Thank you for these encouraging words … Thank goodness also for Heather’s articles.
I couldn't agree more. It's really baked into the 2020, 7 million vote lead Harris is inheriting from Biden. Harris will gain votes beyond Biden's 81:million and The wannabe King Donald, in his madness, will lose votes.
Hillary Clinton was "much hated" because Republicans both in and out of elected office had been attacking her for more than a decade. There were repeated hearings about every possible event for which she might be blamed. During the campaign, the news media repeatedly banged away about emails, saying nothing about the differences between her and Trump. Remember -- this started with supposed scandals from before Bill Clinton was president!
The GQP said all sorts of nasty, untrue and insulting things about Hillary Clinton and made her sound like Lady Macbeth in a pantsuit. Trump behaves like he expects Hillary Clinton to come out of retirement to run again, but Ms. Clinton won’t do so. They are trying to claim Vice-President Harris is a Communist, which couldn’t be further from the truth. It could be they are using the peculiar American interpretation of the word “communist,” which goes back to the post Civil War era.
Trump hates and fears the Vice President because she is an intelligent woman who can and has gotten the better of him in debate. She defies his prejudices.
George, yes, she will likely win the popular vote in a landslide. But the most important votes are the 270 needed to win the Electoral College, and that's where things get hinky.
One of the fallacies that many people seem to hold is that because someone appears to have been or is successful in their business venture(s) that this individual would be successful in the role of POTUS. This is not necessarily so, as the objectives of most businesses is one of maximizing profits and for publicly held corporations - it is creating value for it’s shareholders. The role of government(s) is almost entirely opposite. Some of the skills possessed by successful business persons can be applied in governmental leadership positions, but trump - who operates basically a glorified “mom and pop” entity in the other peoples’ money sector (real estate) possesses and exhibits very few of the skills to be a successful CEO of a publicly-held corporation!
They don’t understand the purposes of business and government are different. 45 years of unregulated capitalism has allowed a small percentage of the population to acquire obscene amounts of money, which they use to undermine the government so that it does not work for the people, but for themselves. It has also created a much larger class of poor people and decimated a middle class that was once admired, although we had a system designed to leave certain groups of people out of the middle class.
We need to rediscover the need to address the common good of all citizens, regardless of their background or origins. We cannot afford to leave people out. White rural voters are justifiably angry about the decimation of their opportunities, but propaganda outlets who cater to their anger encourage them to blame the wrong people. Professors and minority citizens didn’t consolidate their farms or ship their jobs overseas, it was greedy executives who did that.
Kamala Harris needs a Democratic Congress, and key Senate and House races are running neck and neck. Pick any of the closest races to support with your donations and/or volunteer efforts, such as:
As for Trump's campaigning in blue states, maybe he's actually campaigning in competitive House districts to support his MAGA sycophants in order to subvert the certification of Kamala Harris as President. This appears to have been the case for his Coachella rally where a really good Democratic candidate, Will Rollins, is within a few points of MAGA incumbent Ken Calvert for CA-41. Calvert co-hosted a fundraiser for Trump back in March, voted to overturn the 2020 election, and continues to be a Trumper election-denier.
As we look for where our donor dollars will have the most impact, Will Rollins CA-41 is one of the pick-up seats we can flip toward a much needed Dem majority in the House of Representatives.
Tester (MT) and Brown (OH) are on my donate list. I'll add Allred (TX). I continue to support Bynam (OR) for Congress, hoping to flip Oregon's 5th district blue.
I have pointed out the same thing in other contexts or conversations, George: 81 million Americans gave TFG his walking papers. I point this out especially when I hear that 74 million voted for the Mango Menace. Simple 81>74. I still fear given how many of my friends and neighbors support TFG. Plus since 2020 there have been numerous voter suppression laws implemented in the name of protecting the vote against fraud. My state is one such place, sadly. I do fervently hope you are right that Harris will win.
"There’s no reason they will change their minds to now support Trump in 2024",
While I agree with your optimism, there are still enough Trump supporters and undecideds to swing it his way. I am worried that the Harris campaign and the DNC generally don't have it quite together.
You know, this makes perfect sense (esp when we know for SURE that Republican base voters cast a ballot for someone other than Trump 10-30% of the time when they voted in GOP primaries earlier in 2024.
It makes perfect sense when you consider how angry even the GOP was after Jan 6th.
It makes even more sense after 2022 (Dobbs and the overturn of Roe) and all the special election and referendums since then where Dems overperformed.
BUT WHY AREN'T (any, or hardly any) the polls reflecting this? I mean, we were looking a little bit better for a while this summer and now pundits tell us "people still don't trust Kamala" and/or "her glow has worn off". HOW?
The main poll is the. NYTimes/Siena poll run by the Times. They want a horse race so the polls are skewed. Polls are opinions at a particular point in time based on what happened in past elections. But 2024 is not 2020 or 2016. Much has happened to the reputation of Trump. Nothing has happened to enlarge his base.
Polls are useless propaganda. They are biased and influenced by the fascists that are conducting them. We live amongst way too many ignorant and gullible fools that have been brainwashed by a raging crazed maniac that i keep hoping will DIE. TUMP is like a rabid animal that should have been put down years ago. I have no empathy whatsoever for that creature from hell. I never would have imagined that there was so many stupid idiots here in the United States that vote for that horrible creature. Too much stupidity exists here.
Of course, you’re right. But — the polls (and the many pundits who discuss them to the exclusion of REAL news!) are confounding. And it doesn’t help that you’ve got former wonder boy Nate SIlver (now self-employed) ….. except for that big consulting check he gets from billionaire Peter Thiel who’s a $70 million investor in the big betting site, PolyMarket!!
Anyway, I just looked at the Economist poll average - they have Harris at 50.3 to Trump’s 46.9. Interesting that at Biden lowest poll numbers, right before he dropped out, the Economist had the average at 47 Trump and 43 Biden - so Trump may really have a ceiling of 47.
Which amplifies the point that we need to get EVERYONE out to vote!! He, whose name will not be spoken or typed, does have a ceiling, and it is not a majority. It is up to us, to get everyone to cast their ballots this election. It has never been more necessary.
Mainstream media love the horse race aspect of politics, but they are loath to discuss the policy implications if Trump wins. They don’t cover the subjects they should be covering, and print newspapers are in trouble because of the massive loss of advertising revenue to the Internet.
So the polls are being faked?? -- possibly to sell news? The media will get tRump elected.
Unfortunately, a majority of voters won't win the Electoral College. Right now voters are falling for tRump in the 40's%.
Anybody know which side General Randy A. George will be on? His nutcase-in-chief, or the rights of the people? Only the side with the most soldiers and weapons will stop this fascist takeover. . . or support it.
Who will tRump go after first? His staff will be too busy going after prominent "enemies" like Pelosi to go after ordinary Dems. Next will be rounding up people of color and any Caucasians they can identify such as Ukrainians.
Sorry if I am free-associating. . . I have never been so anxious about an election. My partner and I have talked about leaving the country to help the Ukrainians, but the less fortunate will be suffering HERE -- Repubs or an executive order could cancel the WIC program and other social funding to Blue states, and I live in one.
There are many polls—some are better than others because they are based in more data and better scientific methods. Some may even be fake, but not the most respected ones, surely.
I voted for Hillary Clinton because I didn't want Donald Trump. But my reluctance was because the POTUS had turned into a 'dynasty' role. Twelve years of Bushes, and twelve (or more) years of Clintons ? Yes, Obama was there for eight years. I'm glad none of his relatives aspired to the highest office. Thankfully, Harris doesn't have the dynasty aversion working against her.
I believe so too. He cannot, by any logic, have enhanced his electoral base, but it’s quite possible and even very likely that he has disgusted enough people who previously voted Republican.
I had a bumper sticker on my car today that said “cats for Kamala” and someone drove up next to me and gave me the “finger” then swerved a bit to try and frighten me off the road. The bumper sticker stays and I ain’t moving!
These call outs and chants from his supporters…”Kill them!” Trump, Vance, Musk,Miller..as well as all his Republican appeasers..are giving them license to swerve at people for ordinary bumper stickers. I admit that I am having an increasingly hard time tolerating people willing to support Trump given what he is unleashing since the debate but this propensity towards violence against fellow citizens (and I quake to think what black and brown people immigrants must be experiencing in particular) is unquestionably lopsided. They are intentionally provoking this maelstrom. My heart is in my throat imagining the aftermath of the election.
Whether or not Trump wins, I fear he will encourage his backers to physically attack or even kill people, and that many of them might take him up on it.
Yep. That 'vibe' is already apparent here in Ohio, and I imagine it's even more so in places like Idaho, Arkansas, Texas, etc. It's everywhere around here.
I'm so sorry this happened? If you don't mind... please tell us in what state you were driving. I'm in Oklahoma and afraid to put anything political on my car.
I dunno. My husband and I went to Miami to see Hamilton just before the Covid lockdown and I had about 10 people roll down their window to tell me they liked my “Elect a Clown, Expect a Circus” sticker. I was astounded.
Oh, no, it is the politics. Three Harris signs in my neighborhood had the red circle with a line diagonal painted on them Friday night/Saturday morning. I have not seen a single fpotus sign in the area.
What a jerk that person was. I don’t put stickers on my car except for oil changes and parking pass, but that was a rather juvenile way for that person to express his or her distaste. I see a lot of Trump signs in more rural areas, and also Democratic candidate signs. There are two residences in the area where I live that are plastered with Trump signs and slogans. One of them has a front yard with Trump-Vance signs and has a sign about no fraudulent elections. We know good and well Trump lost the election fair and square, but he harbors grievances about it to the point where he initiated an insurrection to keep the Senate from certifying the electoral college count.
When I see Trump signs, my only thought is that if Trump wins, you will live to regret it.
A friend who recently returned from a trip across the U.S. told me that when she stopped for gas in a certain red state, the gas station refused to serve her because she had New York plates! She didn't even have any political stickers on her vehicle.
Trump is not only dangerous to the United States. He is a danger and a threat to the entire world. As to "protection", the only protection Americans need is protection FROM TRUMP.
Trump, MAGA, and corrupt plutocracy. I credit the unscrupulously wealthy with much of the momentum that sustains Trump and and the abiding Orwellian madness. Follow the money.
Seeing how MUSK and Trump have created a bromance confirms what you say. The degenerate idiocy of their followers simply reinforces the plutocracy. Their followers do not realize how they, too,, will become victims of the Musks and the Trumps in this world. Add to them the Murdochs, the Bezos and the Sinclairs. We are "groomed" by their lies and their exaggerations.
This Letter should appear in full on the front page of the NY Times, The Washington Post, and every major paper in the U.S., especially in the Swing states. If only it were so. How is it possible, how is it possible that this monster could win the presidency?
There won’t be, only a dictator for life. I do see the possibility that Vance will try to invoke the 25th amendment because Trump’s mental incapacity is worsening. It is a different issue than that of his destructive personality disorders, for which there is no treatment or cure.
That is the plan by Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. They can’t control crazy man Trump so have him win and then declare him incompetent and out their boy Vance in the presidency. Vance will do or say whatever they want.
He seems to think that the national guard and the military will be deployed immediately after November 5 to round up the enemies from within, per his iv on Fox yesterday. Does he plan to seize control on that day?
Evidently he does, and he has openly stated he plans to violate the Constitution from the time he is sworn in as President. The spineless Supreme Court majority has already violated its constitutional duties by claiming Trump’s powers and immunity are broad, and they have essentially declared they think Trump is above the law.
Yes!! I was just getting to copy parts of it with a link and put it in as a comment in every NYT's article (regardless of the section, i.e. lifestyle, cooking, etc!!) I'll wager they won't print it. "Above the fold" in the major newspapers and MSM is all about trump this and trump that . . . .it is beyond sickening. When Ohio went for trump in 2016, the collective primal scream friends and I let out could probably been heard for miles!! And, we have never stopped.
I was out to dinner with a group from a golf outing -many who are readers of the "Letter". A couple of the ladies (mid-70's) noted they were becoming increasingly nervous and terrified at the thought of trump winning (which he could only do by cheating) and we pondered how Heather holds it together and, if underneath it all, is she as terrified as the rest of us?
Listen to Heather’s post again. The people that feel left behind and want to go back to the past patriarchal white Christian dominated society will continue to support him because he gives them someone to hate and not take responsibility for themselves. The crazier and more violent and repulsive, the more intense their support. As to the more educated and middle class members of the US, I just don’t get it. I ask myself the same about Hitler’s rise to power. That’s why they are using his playbook, they know it worked and is working for him. I am very very worried and will continue biting my nails for the next month at least.
Why isn’t there more of a grassroots movement to get democratic voters registered and to the polls, door-to-door?
Where do the Trump supporters get the idea that we need a dictator? You’re correct in that Trump gives them people to hate, and that they are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves and want to cede their power to a dictator. It won’t be long before they will bitterly regret having supported him, because he’ll give them hate figures, but he won’t lift a finger to help them. Trump wants unlimited power, he wants to receive unlimited wealth as a dictator, and he wants to govern out of spite and revenge. None of these things are good reasons to govern.
I would think the example of how Adolf Hitler came to power would be a warning to Americans about the danger of empowering someone like Trump, but sadly, some of us are ignorant of the dangers, and they are not educated to know how the government is supposed to function as opposed to how it does function. Teaching to standardized testing has been damaging to two generations of students.
Why I am very optimistic about Nov... It's not the polls... It's the 2020 numbers.
Here's my back of the envelope forecast:
The Joe Biden coalition of voters beat Donald Trump by 7 million votes in 2020, +81 million to 74 million, that is + 7 million votes! So the first question in forecasting this Nov's outcome is...Has Harris/Walz pulled the Biden coalition back together?
Miraculously, the answer is yes. Mostly..
Mostly means 3.5 million Biden voters have passed away based on mortality averages and it's likely 5-6 million voters simply can't vote for a Black woman for president. This includes Black and Latino men and White guys who believe a woman leader is either "weak" or "strident", both unattractive attributes in a President.
This leaves Kamala with 72-73 million votes from the Biden coalition. What is she likely to add? 7 million young first time voters, 3 million activated, pro-reproductive freedom white women voters, 1 million extra Black woman voters, 2 million Never Trump Republicans, Independents and Haley voters.
This brings Kamal's vote total to 85-86 million. And there is potential for more Harris votes because Trump is such a more deranged, repellant candidate this cycle than he was in 2020.
And what does Trump have? Trump starts with 71 million because 3 million of his voters have passed away. He adds maybe 3 million of those voters who cannot vote for a Black woman, 2 million young first time voters plus 1 million Black and Latino male voters. That gives Trump 75-77 million votes tops.
I think this total is optimistic because, as I said above, Trump is a more deranged, repellant candidate than he was in 2020. It's very likely that Trump will lose more voters and not get to the 74 million he got in 2020.
We have at least 10-15 million volunteers working day and night to put Kamala over the top. Trump has Trump and a very small ground game.
With my forecast, Kamala is likely to win the popular vote by 6%-7%. 53% to 47%. Enough to win the electoral vote with 4 swing states. And what about those scary polls? The polls have become particularly unstable but are are trending in Harris direction. Harris is up by 4-5% in more polls. If she wins by +6% the pollsters can say it was in the margin of error so why were we so irate? Actually because political polls, no matter how unbiased they try to be, partisan political tools that journalists use to tell election stories.
We just have to remember, polls don't win elections, voters do! So we have to keep going at 150% and sleep after Nov. 5th
He lost quite a few. Trump supporters never thought COVID-19 would be a problem for them and were content to have the pandemic ravage poorer urban communities, then they refused to get vaccinated against COVID because of all the antivax garbage that appeared on social media. Quite a few died, while others experienced permanent health damage due to ignoring sensible medical advice.
We have to keep going up through January 6 and beyond. I also hope with all my hopefulness that there are enough swing states that will tip the electoral college votes to be overwhelming for Harris. The EC must NOT choose our next president.
Then the Lincoln Project HAS to get that commercial of a daughter dying from an untreated pregnancy complication, remembering as she dies everything she loved about her father, onto the NFL! It ends when she says, "But you voted for hate, Dad", and we see him sitting with his head bent next to an empty hospital bed. You can probably find it if you google "Daisy".
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A transgender California prison inmate who was born male but identifies as female underwent gender-reassignment surgery PAID FOR BY THE STATE (!) this week in what is believed to be the first such case in the United States, her attorneys said Friday. The state had promised to refer inmate Shiloh Quine, then 56, to a surgeon and pay for the procedure as part of a 2015 settlement making the state the first in the United States to offer inmates a regular path to such treatment.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A transgender California prison inmate who was born male but identifies as female underwent gender-reassignment surgery PAID FOR BY THE STATE (!) this week in what is believed to be the first such case in the United States, her attorneys said Friday. The state had promised to refer inmate Shiloh Quine, then 56, to a surgeon and pay for the procedure as part of a 2015 settlement making the state the first in the United States to offer inmates a regular path to such treatment.
My hubby and I watched The Manchurian Candidate (a remake with Denzel, Streep, etc.) and we kept saying "Woah!"...it is frightening how a movie from 2004 could have a plot line out of today's "politics". Frightening...and disgusting. Fear...even back then, it was all about instilling fear.
My husband and I watched the original film just last night! I’d been convinced that I’d seen it before, but quickly realized I hadn’t. It’s fantastic in a hundred ways—the acting and writing are superb—but there were so many lines which could come from any story today about Trumpism that it started to seem like a dream!
You can stream it free on Kanopy, courtesy of many public libraries. Check your library’ site under “databases” or “online resources”—your library card will get you in.
General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump: “He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country…a fascist to the core.” No wonder he responded to Michelle Obama, whom he sat next to at Bident's Inauguration, to her comment, "I'll bet you're glad to be out of there" -- General Milley said, "You have NO IDEA." Now we all know what he knew.
I had the same question a few days ago. If Woodward and/or Milley were facing real life threats, what changed that they are coming out now with the book (Woodward) and the comment (Milley)?
My guess Milley is caught between the need to speak out and (even in retirement) professional conduct. He was pretty up front in his retirement speech:
“We are unique among the world’s militaries. We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator,” Milley said at a ceremony in Virginia.
“And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator,” he continued. “We don’t take an oath to an individual. We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is America — and we’re willing to die to protect it.”
You are right - Milley upheld professional conduct and standards, not even mentioning tfg in his retirement speech (about a year ago). At that time the felon and wannabe dictator who is trying to get back into the White House had already threatened him with execution, something that should be reserved for traitors like trump.
He has admitted he is probably facing recall and a court marshal if Trump is reinstated. I am not sure this is what deterred him, probably not given his character, still…
I think that Kamala needs to use stronger language to call him out. She succeeded in taunting him in the debate. She should talk about his refusal of a second saying “he’s afraid because I wiped the floor with him the first time”. What happened to our tough prosecutor???
Maybe she's not the person who has to get tough. Milley had the right idea, and bravo to Bob Woodward and his publisher for rush printing his book. And if Republicans are not cooperating with preparing for a smooth transition should they wind, it's time now to blow the whistle loud and often. We must demand a Constitutional government.
My worry abound this advice from political wonks like Carville is that there is such a gender driven double standard at play …it basically oozes from the press headlines and comments like Huckabee-Sanders about the need for Harris to be humble. She is walking a tightrope. For some reason the US cannot tolerate aggressively strong women leaders it seems on the surface at least. Compare this to Iron woman Margaret Thatcher in the UK who ascended to and held power for so long there. Harris and her campaign know that this election is an existential moment and they have the Hillary Clinton collapse in the immediate rear view mirror. It is crucial they court the middle and the middle is pretty muddled.
I've seen a lot of men, mostly black, saying they will not vote for Harris because other world leaders will walk all over a woman. Republicans want to weaken any strong democratic woman by saying these things & I too think Harris should hit him hard.
How many Trump voters do you think listen to or read msm? In my experience their minds are closed tight and they want no new input. I’ve been canvassing and when dumpy, grumpy older man answers the door, it’s the first clue that it’s a Trump voter. When they refuse material it’s a sure thing. Nothing new to learn in their world.
James Carville was interviewed today by Jen Psaki and essentially said the same thing... that Kamala Harris needs to use strong language now, because it's clear Trump is a fascist. Here's the interview...
Kamala was doing just that today in North Carolina. We all know she "wiped the floor with him."
He knows it and man-baby ran to his hate-crip with his baby bottle of diet-coke.
Often times actions speak louder than words...........Kamala Harris knows that.........She will be the one who for the last time shouts......."YOUR FIRED!"
Brilliant as usual Heather. But maybe you can explain to us where our major news outlets have disappeared to, and why? Why are there not 2-inch headlines about this on the NY Times and Washington Post? How are the ABC and CBS Sunday morning news programs able to hold twee little polite interviews with the enablers of this clearly insane wannabe dictator? Have we as a nation completely lost our will to survive as the world’s preeminent democracy? Is there historical precedent or discernible reason for this? We need your help to understand where and why we are so apparently weak.
"... how is it possible that this monster could win the presidency"?
Simple. He won't.
The machine working to disenfranchise voters, and the paid off judges, may try to hand it to him anyway. But if we bury them in a Blue Wave turnout the judges will hide, hoping to survive for another day.
I’m far less worried about him winning the vote and much more concerned about post election violence… and then what? What agency remains after we win the election?
I think about THIS more than the election results themselves. Until January 6, at least, Biden will call the shots. Peaceful protesters will not be subject to arrest and detention/deportation/capital punishment. But I agree that individual/collective agency in the looming dark days post election might to many be limited to looking for out of the country sanctuary.
CBS, NBC, ABC - are they covering Milley story right now?? This should be the main story everywhere should it not - on every base domestic and overseas - so every American might hear it esp our military folks and their families
That assumes the networks have morals, integrity and bona fide loyalty to our country.
Facts most definitely NOT in evidence.
Noted without comment.
Trump’s top general calls ex-president ‘fascist to the core’ and ‘most dangerous person to this country,’ new book says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fascist-general-woodward-book-b2627972.html
Trump is ‘fascist to the core,’ Milley says in Woodward book
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says Trump is “the most dangerous person to this country,” echoing dire warnings of others in national security circles.
https://wapo.st/4dNILuJ
Mark Milley fears being court-martialed if Trump wins, Woodward book says
Retired US army general fears unusual action of being recalled to uniform for retribution, veteran reporter writes
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/bob-woodward-book-mark-milley-trump
Milley's remark was reported by The Independent and other media outlets after it was included in legendary journalist Bob Woodward's new book, War.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-responds-mark-milley-calling-him-fascist-1968056
Liz Cheney: ‘No reason to disagree’ with Gen. Mark Milley allegedly calling Trump ‘fascist’
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/liz-cheney-no-reason-to-disagree-with-gen-mark-milley-allegedly-calling-trump-fascist-221626437732
Trump's top general calls former president "fascist" and "dangerous" threat
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/11/mark-milley-trump-fascist-bob-woodward-book
Milley calls Trump ‘a fascist to the core’ in new Woodward book
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4929487-trump-dangerous-milley-woodward/
'Most dangerous person ever': Trump general reportedly warns he's 'fascist to the core'
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/-most-dangerous-person-ever-trump-general-reportedly-warns-he-s-fascist-to-the-core-221580357798
My fear is that Trump would recall Flynn to service.
"Trump’s former national security advisor, retired General Michael Flynn, who pled guilty under oath twice to lying to the FBI only to get a pardon from Trump, was vocal over the weekend about what a future under Trump would look like. He was asked at the Rod of Iron Freedom Festival Friday night if he'd “sit at the head of a military tribunal to not only drain the swamp, but imprison the swamp, and on a few occasions, execute the swamp.” Flynn responded, “What your sentiment is about is accountability … I definitely believe we need accountability.” After pointing out Trump would need to win first for there to be “a way to get after this,” Flynn concluded, “These people are already up to no good … We win, and then Katie Bar the door. Believe me, the gates of hell, my hell will be unleashed.”"
From Joyce Vance, Civil Discourse, Oct 13
These guys are preoccupied with causing death and destruction to people for their mere existence. Now what does this remind me of?
Dems will be vanquished along with any opposition. Don’t you think it’s why the cowardly repubs won’t oppose him. Save my arse, screw the country. The Lincoln Project people will be right behind Liz and Adam.
Aw f*ck. He’s in, of course.
Joyce’s post just hit my inbox. 🤬
"Rod of Iron Freedom Fesitival"??? That sounds so...freeing...(unbelievable emoji)
Actually, as I read Project 2025, with my Democrats Abroad Project 2025 book club there is so much to fear. Certainly the military is going to be in chaos for one with what is planned. These people really want to destroy our nation and thus get rid of the Constitution which they want to refashion as a White Supremacist Christian Nationalist Utopia. Ironically, like the Crusaders of the 30 years war in Europe, they are using "faith" and supposed Christianity to claim the moral high ground for taking over our country and reaffirming it as a White, male paradise. Since the US is already a White Supremacist society since its founding, but has moved far from that ideal at this point with hard fought battles, and resistance, where women, LGBTQ+, and immigrants with all shades of brown skin, and all sorts of physical characteristics, cultural backgrounds, and religions have been able to shape the destiny of this country too. Who I would like to see being reached with this message is not the immovable MAGAs, but the college students who say change the Israel policy or they won't vote for Harris. However, the difficulty with this group, is that the frontal cortex does not fully develop until 24-30. That is the part of the brain responsible for complex problem solving, critical thinking and delayed gratification. All of these would be required for them to take a long term good perspective on the election now. Many are able to do it, but some are also so caught up in their cause that they don't see that a Trump presidency will possibly be worse for people of Gaza, as there will be no more funding for humanitarian aid under such an administration, and Israel will have the full Christian Nationalist backing. Not only that, but they will be shipped to other countries, or rounded up and put into concentration camps for protesting because there will be no free speech. It would be instructive to have them look at Russia and see what happens there, because that is their likely fate. Democratic politician David Pepper has written a series that is turned into a podcast as well, called Trumps Project 2025, which is a fictionalized version of what life would be like under Project 2025 if implemented. Here is a link.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trumps-project-2025-up-close-and-personal/id1764130544?i=1000669870372
I've been recommending Mr. Pepper's work for some time now. Chilling.
Linda how did you get the font of your post so big? I wish all the posts were that readable to my eyes. John
Flynn strongly supports turning the IUS into a one religion Christian country. Of course, Hitler advocated the same thing, but actually had no plans to do so, just a concept of a plan.
"My fear is that Trump would recall Flynn to service." Of course he would!
He'd certainly recall Flynn. And in the cabinet room, he'd have empty chairs. He'd have Bannon, Miller, Flynn, and Musk setting all policies that matter. John Eastman for DOJ? Maybe.
I have too many fears to list!!
And he will
His brother is still a general.
Pretty sure that’s the plan.
If he walks like a duck….Gen. Milley is only too correct.
At least some one has courage in this country…
Well-executed, decisive defense of news outlets, lin. The news industry may be flailing to reestablish and undergird its primary purpose, but it is making serious attempts. We can only hope it succeeds in time. We can’t have a sound democracy without reliable conduits of truth.
Thank you Lin!!
Don Lemmon said on IHIPNEWS that if a reporter does not tow the corporate line.......what the billionaire owner wants..........their contract will be terminated in 2 months.
Maybe Melinda Gates and Lauren Powell Jobs should start a new newspaper that actually reports on stuff the mainstream media is minimizing. The most prevalent story I've seen in the NYT and WaPo (other than the excellent and heartbreaking story about the Ukrainian child who died of eye cancer because she could not get timely treatment due to the war) is that Harris' campaign is "stalled."
A Washington Post story of one family/school system/community experience of Florida transitioning from a state which supported civil rights to DeSantis' fevered iteration of systemic GOP bigotry.
"Her trans daughter made the volleyball team. Then an armed officer showed up."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2024/trans-sports-girls-florida-bans/
“Florida Police Showing Up at the Homes of Voters Who Signed Abortion Rights Petition”
https://meidasnews.com/news/florida-police-showing-up-at-the-homes-of-voters-who-signed-abortion-rights-petition
Desatan is a political thug. He thinks he was elected as dictator, not governor of the state of Florida.
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The RedHats
Sorry this is just nonsense. The NYT had s host of articles on Harris this weekend many of them very favorable contrasted to their views on Trump. I don't know WHAT you are looking at but if you go to Nytimes.com and look under US -> Politics there is a whole list of articles most of which are unbiased but still show a definite understanding that Harris is trying to provide truth and Trump is mostly lying or making it up. I encourage you to actually LOOK at what they are reporting before making highly erroneous statements about their coverage.
On this point, we are in agreement. The NYT and WAPO are covering General Miley’s comments in Bob Woodward’s new book extensively.
There is, however, the factor of ‘’Both Sidesism’’ practiced by large segments of the media, that benefits Trump by covering him as if he were somehow a legitimate opponent to VP Harris.
Professor Timothy Snyder discusses it at length in his October 12 Substack, ‘’Both Sides’’.
His piece is too dense for a nutshell synopsis, but the following quote gives one a taste of his argument.
"Why does American television and press “both-sides” our politics? Why are such different presidential candidates presented as equally flawed? Why do the outrages of Trump, for example at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, lead to the humiliation of Biden?
Both-Sidesism is the habit of reducing the world into two perspectives, treating the two as fundamentally alike, and then ignoring or adjusting the data. One cause of this odd behavior is the ownership of media companies. Another is fear.''
Thank you, R Dooley. Your answer is better than mine.
I just quoted a NYT article this morning. MSM has denigrated Dems and blathered about chump for a while now. I finally stopped paying them.
Too late me thinks.
Sad but logical. Tow the company line or else.
I know a former cop that long ago developed a private investigation unit. We are set to have coffee so to discuss business. So I mentioned politics and sure enough, he is an avowed Trump-supporter. I tried to make him see the danger in Trump. But he put down democrats as I knew he would. He brought up the border and indeed, Biden allowed the border issues to compound over 3 years until early this year. And now we are all paying for this intransigence.
I hope you mentioned that Congress (immigration reform IS their job after all!) DID have a tought & robust border bill co-authored by Langford of Oklahoma that Trump quashed at the last minute, lest Biden have any kind of a "win" leading into the election.
Plus - we can work together (in an ideal world) on issues like immigration, fair taxation, health care, even reproductive rights - but we aren't going to able to fix some of what I fear Trump is planning to break, both domestically and around the world. He is so corrupt, so easily flattered and manipulated. How do the elected Republican officals (all but a few) sleep at night or face their families?
No conscience sleeps fine
They want to win, simple as that. Truth doesn't matter to them at all. What is sad to me is that many of you here who should be my allies in opposing Trump do the same thing, i.e. make up stuff which simply isn't true, specifically your unwarranted attacks against the mainstream media saying they only support Trump which is total BS. READ the fricking papers or websites of NYT, WaPo, the major networks, you who do this are spreading lies just like the Trump side does and it so dismays me. Sigh...
People here making up things…really
What I have tried to suggest is this; Biden didn’t want to in any way, continue in the footsteps of Trump on border issues. I’m not talking about a stupid wall although I might not fully discount that. No, he could have issued an executive order but as his homeland secretary Myorka once said, “It wouldn’t hold up in court.” How myopic a response. Send troops to the border. It was out of control. And whether you believe it or not, the issue is being used against our side. Rather successfully. Some folks can be real dense.
Bill, please tell us exactly how you would have handled the border problems without funding from Congress. Please tell us how you would have decreased the flow of fentanyl which is primarily smuggled by Americans without additional and better detection equipment. And please tell me how we could stem the inevitable tide of humanity fleeing nations run by gangs and ravaged by the Climate Catastrophe.
The potential solutions for much of this were negotiated in Congress, passed in the Senate and about to pass in the House. Trump called the Speaker and killed it.
Earth to Bill Katz: TRUMP is to blame for worsening a big problem. Blaming Biden is allowing yourself to be drawn into the trap set by the wannabe dictator and his Nazi advisor Miller.
You are beating a dead horse.
Bill-Do you think immigration and the border issue would seem so dire if there were people with white skin streaming into America?
The Repubs WANT the border problem, because that's all they've got. How much time on immigrants does Trump spend in his rallies? And the rest of the time he's saying brilliant stuff like "Kamala is stupid. Biden is crooked. I'm the best president ever. He's the worst preident ever. I'll protect women like they've never been protected before. Drill baby, drill." His campaign is a joke and he's playing to emotion rather than intelligence in the commoners, and the oligarchs don't care about all that, they just want business protected.
Do you honestly think it’s “myopic” for an advisor to a president objecting to an executive order because it is illegal?
Jon, it is hard not to question the media when there are stats out there like the one which published a huge number of reports on the release of new email carp by Comey on Clinton just before the election, yet published far, far less on the information that was in Jack Smith's revised charging document regarding fpotus's criminal activities around January 6th. Or how there were 50 references to Biden's age to every 1 of fpotus's. Those are what lead me to believe that corporate media is at the very least hedging their bets, if not outright supporting fpotus.
"...unwarranted attacks against the mainstream media saying they only support Trump which is total." Now you're making stuff up. The discussion about the media is more complex than that, a Democrat tendency. And of ocurse, the alleged making stuff up about media reporting vs. immigrants eating cats, immigrant crime, Obama not born here, Kamala not working for McDonald's, oh, and the election not being legitimate... you prove the Dems point right there. The two sides are not equal. That is the argument.
SF, it does not seem to matter with some folks that immigration reform is a Congressional obligation. They only want to blame Biden for not doing Congress's job.
President Biden pulled off a miracle rescuing America from Orange Hitlers 4 years of tyranny. The border bill took time to prepare and was bi-partisan. It was Donable Lector that instructed Moses Mike to kill that bill when it was ready. No way should should we get sucked into The Dickwads immigrant-border fascist rhetoric.
Oh good grief. You’re buying the immigrant fear again. The solution is Congress and an immigration policy that’s realistic. “Just say no” never works.
Some people just can't understand the abstract. Trump's words that Heather quoted draw a straight line to fascism and genocide. But if you don't understand the abstract you can't get past the scary bad guy immigrant language. Until, as Heather quoted Hoffer, you are part of the genocide or race war and you can't afford to admit the truth.
'Hell WG, some people lack critical thinking skills and believe that democrats control hurricanes and direct them only to “red” states. If they believe that, they will believe anything that their “leaders” say!.
One of our gerrymandered General Assembly members repeated this nonsense this week, and she immediately got called out on it. The GQP wants you to believe in the stupidity.
Yeah funny how earthquakes and fires in blue states are "punishment from God" but tornados and hurricanes in red states are caused by "Democrats controlling the weather"
Good point—some people seem to be unable to think beyond the surface, and it’s pretty scary that they are all being fed this diet of evil.
Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3QX2sxfco
I'm convinced, Daniel, that if Trump wins by whatever means, we will experience a bloodbath as the psychopath seeks to purge the country of his "enemies." Thanks for the link to the clip.
Would there be a plan for mass deportations if people with white skin were the immigrants streaming into our nation? Would their blood be poison and their genes be criminal?
Most Americans don’t want to face the racism used to keep us divided so elites can hold onto and expand their power.
It’s not just poor, displaced people voting for Trump and the Rs. White people are the only group that vote in higher percentages for the fascism we can see coming. Too many feel they need to be protected from “others”.
As Trump told them this is that last chance they have to “take their country back”. I’ve always wondered who they’re taking it back from…America has never been a “white country” because indigenous people and Africans were here from the beginning.
As a “nation of laws” slaveholders established laws and customs designed to keep the masses divided so they could control labor and power. They used skin color as a dividing line.
White supremacy is woven throughout our society. We’ve made some progress but not enough. We’re reaping what the “founders” sowed.
Not so, Bill. Biden said he would sign the strongest border security and imigration bill ever written, by very conservative Rebuplicans, in conjuction with Democrats who let them have everything they wanted, just to get it done and signed, and Trump told the Senate and House to kill it so he could keep it as a campaign focus, which he has.
The president has no power over such issues.
Trump had no authority to do this as he is a private citizen, even if he thinks he should still be president. The Republicans are more loyal to him than their Constitutional obligations and oaths, and it is quite scary to see them do this. It’s quite clear Trump sees himself as above the law, when the Founders intended for the President to be subject to the law. Roberts behaves with surprise that the public hates his decision to put Trump above the law, which shows he really must get out of his ivory tower. The justices who decided U.S. v. Trump just decided to throw out 245 years of precedent to enable a wannabe dictator. Many people are very well aware of this, and are understandably angry about it.
To be accurate Trump as a private citizen has just as much right to "lobby" Congress as you or I do. It's just that his efforts work because the GOP MAGA senators want his support. They don't care what we say. If you were correct that he had no "authority" to lobby Congress then none of us would. The problem is you just don't like that he "won" but that's the nature of politics.
It’s funny the two worlds of reality. Yours and mine. Commencing under Biden, I read and viewed hundreds of thousands running across the border and you didn’t. It’s an excuse you wish to utilize that Biden couldn’t do anything but a president has assume powers. He could have reacted early and didn’t. I saw this border issue brewing for a future campaign issue and it has come to pass. Take the blinders off, please.
"Biden allowed the border issues to compound over 3 years until early this year" ??????????????? Are you kidding? The Republicans killed the bipartisan immigration bill that Biden wanted to sign.
We’ve had almost 4 years of the GQP bitching, moaning, and lying about it. President Biden kept many of Trump’s policies in place, without separating families.
Biden did zip on immigration for 3 years. Bill is absolutely correct. Personally I was totally in support of his lack of legislation because for me the borders should be open. Draconian anti immigrant positions are TERRIBLE for the country. Bill and I totally disagree on that. But it is absolutely true that Biden let this slide until after he started losing in the race and then stepped aside.
The GOP supported his change of heart and they drafted most of the new bill but Trump demanded that the GOP vote no on their own bill. That was "good politics" for them, horrible for us and the country.
Biden didn’t have anything to do except the border problem. Seems to me he hit the ground running after such a Repub Schitt show.
Biden did zip? And you know this? How?
By watching the news from the last four years. I didn't just show up to this party at the convention, I have followed politics religiously for 50+ years. I read the NYT and occasionally the WaPo and watch PBS News every night along with most of the MSNBC programs some CNN and read Heather every day. I can't follow everything of course but I try to look at the most important and reliable sources. Sorry if that is TMI but you asked. I repeat for the years the Biden administration did very little to deal with the immigration issues. And again my support is for open borders but I do not expect that to ever fly. He certainly did very little until this year's attempt at a new border bill. This my "zip" comment. It may have been slightly overstated but if you look at what was done it was very little until this year.
He did zip and a little good witch from the east whispered in my ear so I know I’m right.
Jon, a simple google search shows that this is not true. Just read a Wikipedia article about Biden’s border policies throughout his term, with his first executive order on January 26, 2021.
The border has been an intractable problem for years. Trump’s violent rhetoric only serves to make it harder for us ever to reach a consensus on how to manage it. When even our own side has bought into some of this blame throwing, I wonder what hope we have of finding a solution.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_policy_of_the_Joe_Biden_administration#:~:text=enjoined%20in%202018.-,On%20June%204%2C%202024%2C%20Biden%20passed%20an%20executive%20order%20to,immediate%20deportation%20of%20unauthorized%20migrants.
No are you kidding?????
My MAGA relatives act the same as you describe.
No they don’t. I’m voting for Kamala Harris. Are they?
Victoria, there are a metric boatload of former cops who are fully on board with fpotus.
The border has been an issue for decades. I recall George W. attempting a fix when he was President.
The fact is nobody can "fix" it. If you want absolute correct enforcement, you need to deport about 15 million people many of whom currently work illegally picking our crops, cleaning our houses, building what little housing we currently build because Americans don't want the lousy pay.
Or you let them stay and piss off everyone who wants to be tough on illegal immigration.
The only sane solution to me is to just open our borders and let people in. Get rid of the crisis in "illegals" because if no one is illegal, there is no crisis.
I just hired a Latina mama to clean my stove and refrigerator and she worked her butt off. (Truth be known, she is a Puerto Rican American but she could clean better than I could.)
I remember Ronnie’s disaster, repubs never want to repeat that
Why does NO ONE bring up the facts that Trump's 4 year response to the "open Southern border" was to add a net 400 agents (when he promised to add 15000), less than 50 miles of a new border fence. (Anyone that calls it a wall hasn't seen pictures), separating children from their parents and putting migrants in cages that were so filthy that Mike Pence couldn't even go inside.
What if Trump had actually hired the 15000 additional agents and placed them in places where they could actually do something? And what if his crappy wall wasn't built so that any 12 year old with a saws-all could breach it. Trump's wall has not been breached over 5000 times and counting. They have full time crews fixing the holes.
And which countries are actually going to allow our deportees to be returned? Good luck with that. Trump isn't going to round up Europeans unless their skin isn't white. And what about indigenous people? Where is he going to deport them to? South Dakota?
What a moron.
Bravo Gary! All too many have ‘amnesia’ regarding trumps abysmal incompetence while occupying the WH! Can you say Covid 19 anyone?
Coño! Trump is a fascist. I said that before he was ever elected . He is following the model of that model citizen Hitler! And he wants to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF again! I say hell no! That bombastic, thin skinned, orange snowflake, draft evader (Corporal BONESPUR), anti-constitution, dog whistling, misogynistic, rapist is contemplating deporting immigrants and Stephen Miller appears to be the person chosen to lead the deportation effort, including people like me who are; immigrant, non-white, hispanic, naturalized, 20 year disabled, honorably discharged veteran whom he would denaturalize. El condenado ex president is laying the groundwork for overturning the election should he lose…. AND….that bastard should lose by a landslide. But my friends, there are to many folks who have swallowed the trump milk and aren’t aware if the succeed in either getting him elected or overturning our duly elected president by coup it will curdle in their mouth. Trump has said he wants to get rid of the CONSTITUTION and when he does, because there will be no constitution, there will be no second amendment protection to prevent him from pulling an Vikto Orbán and taking up all the guns! He and his predecessors former republican presidents have filled the federal courts with lifetime appointments of extremist perjurers on the bench. So you magaites that may read this, know that is what you are supporting . Not liberty and the pursuit of happiness. NO you are supporting a fascist hitler wannabe Putin and Kim loving convict!
Mis amigos, colegas, familia y inmigrantes dé países hispanoamericanas y islas caribeñas el carbón, ex-presidente candidato condenado , nos quiere echar de nuestro país adoptado. Él quiere desnaturalizarnos y echarnos. Ese hijo de puta, casado con una inmigrante ella misma no la echara. Porque? me preguntas, PORQUE ELLA NO ES NEGRA, Ni TRIGUEÑA. Es una pura estupidez que cualquier hispano naturalizado, veterano de las fuerzas militares American vaya a votar para el condenado violador. Te los suplico. No lo hagas!
El voto para la democracia y la justicia es el voto para Kamala Harris.
Es verdad. And I know what cono means you better watch it, bro.
Biden did not allow it alone. No border bill was passed and there have been plenty, not just this last one. Also, someone needs to be reporting the story but everyone in this country gets their news from different sources. The freedom that the Internet was supposed to give us has meant that there is no source that people turn to as a trusted guide for information. White men with a grievance want to have their vengance on the planet through Trump, the ultimate White man with a grievance. They will ultimately destroy themselves and each other, and ideally people would be leaving in droves, not coming in droves. They are moving just ahead of the storm.
You don’t get any disagreement from me. That wasn’t my point which is often missed on this issue.
Bill,
This is called "brainwashing". Find a favorite prejudice or fear and FEED IT!!!!
Are we just going to watch???
There are Americans who are participating in the election of Kamala Harris, a truly great candidate who knows and honors the law. She is supported by most of the members of the Democratic Party.
We have great fellow Americans in this country who do NOT want to be controlled by those persons, foreign and homegrown, who are pumping up Donald Trump...who are using him to gain power for themselves.
Our vote and the security of that precious vote has never been so very serious.
Vote for the Kamala/Waltz ticket and the SUPPORT, SUPPORT, SUPPORT.
I love living in a nation of color!!! I love the cultures and foods and music and poetry and books and dancing......all the various ways of looking at life we have around us in the big beautiful country.
If an American believes this is all about Donald Trump, you are really blind.
The real mystery is who is attempting to use this "wind bag" for their own personal gain and for the destruction of the USA?
You do realize that virtually everyone here agrees with you. And that such time spent reiterating it here is totally wasted. You need to be sending this out to the mainstream media which is where the people who are seriously still in doubt are looking. None of them read Heather Richardson, trust me on that. If you want Harris to win spend more time letting the REST of the world know this rather than telling all of us who already agree with you.
You do realize you’ve missed her point with a dismissive mansplain and then proceeded to launch into your repetitive defense of MSM, yes? Interesting that you find Emily’s comment “totally wasted”, yet find your POV worthy of repetition.
People use emotions not intellect when voting. The MAGAs are pushing border. Harris and company must push women dying trying to get healthcare on account of losing trump’s row verses Wade. It’s that simple. Nothing else matters.
BS. This has not one bit whatsoever with “intransigence.”
Bill Katz, I went down the rabbit-hole last night with this Vanity fair article that was about Steven Bannon - but really sooooo much more. It was about your friend, the former cop, and the ideology cloud you find him in. The article made me more aware that trump is a problem, but the bigger problem is the “army” that Bannon, and Steve Miller et.al are shaping. It’s tied to world finance/american imperialism/“traditionalism” (which is guy-speak for misogyny and the strengthening of failed patriarchy). You may get a better sense of how to speak to your friend by reading this. https://apple.news/AQDUUoDLkR-eQCP4_WYmOoA
Let's not forget there was a bipartisan border bill that was tanked by Trump. First time in history, to my knowledge, that a FORMER president was orchestrating policy.
NBC covered this story quite effectively including Liz Cheneys comment that she had no reason to disagree with Milley's assessment that Trump is a fascist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo221626437732
I get very upset when people ignore the facts and accuse major mainstream media of not covering these important stories. It is just as wrong for us the provide misinformation as when Trump does it. Actually I think it is worse because we KNOW Trump had no connection to reality but we are supposed to be better than that. PLEASE PLEASE do not just slander the major press sites with unnecessary misinformation. We need them to win this election. Attacking them doesn't help.
They don’t
No evidence of this.
If course they aren't. The legacy media backs Trump because he "brings controversy," and "controversy" brings eyeballs=ratings=profitability to the failing legacy media so the intergalactic widgetmakers who own them can sell them off. (As Jeff Zucker put it when h was criticized in 2016 for CNN covering all of Trump's hatealongs, "Donald Trump brings high ratings")
As with every other crime committed by corporate America, Follow. The. Money. All will be revealed.
Agreed. However, I think we are perhaps reaching a dangerous turning point with Trump/MAGA where the demagoguery instigated by them, backed by corporate privateers and ignorant billionaires, is turning into uncontrollable bloodlust and the passive societal condoning of violent atrocities against innocents targeted by aforementioned CEO’s political puppets. As it did in Weimar.
Sorry more nonsense here. The mainstream media does NOT "back" Trump. Prove it. A few outlets (Fox News, WSJ and a few others) do but most of the major outlets do not. Certainly not the NYT or WaPo nor the major networks nor PBS. They do cover him a lot but he had been more active on the "interview" circuits altho Kamala has picked that up in the past week or so. Coverage is NOT support. It is what news organizations are supposed to do.
But it seems a lot of people here do not understand how news organizations work which is sad because that should have been part of their civics education in high school.
You must have been absent the day the subject was yellow journalism.
Actually, I’m not so confident that “all will be revealed.”
Like Jack Smith, Milley exudes emotional adult, and one that does not suffer fools gladly.
The media is hedging it’s bets.
Jen Psaki is not hedging any bets. Jen's guest on her Saturday show, Inside With Jen Psaki at the 21 minute mark was NEAL KATYA,L the former U.S. Solicitor & the top appellate attorney in the Land. Neal opened his answers to Jen Psaki with the following statement:
"Normally I am voice of calm". Not yesterday. Neal sated that the Country is facing a "coming massive crises" from 11/5/24 the election date to 1/6/2025 next year & beyond.
Neal reminded the Nation that in the 2020 National election Trump lost the electoral vote count by seventy-four (74) electoral votes. Biden received 306, Trump got only 232. Thus, in 2020 Trump had to "run the table" meaning he overturn the election tax in many states while disenfranchising millions of Voters.
Citing Jen Psaki's data at the opening of her show, Neal said upcoming national election
may be decided only by 1 or 2 states.
Trump will put "massive pressure" on the following targets in those few states:
*. Declare Victory regardless of true final results;
* Pressure the state Courts;
* Pressure the state Legislatures;
*. Pressure state Governors - "I only need ..."
* Manipulate local election boards like in GA to disrupt state certification
The Electoral Reform Act has created some weak guardrails that Neal Katyal believes can be overturned by simple majority votes.
Take personal political & democratic actions. I note that 2 states have replaced the now missing Voting Rights Act (VRA) with state equivalents of the same legal protections including Minnesota on 5/24 & New York on 6/22. Michigan, Florida, New Jersey & Maryland have similar Legislation in the works. Check your state & support these positive state actions.
I have already voted by mail. I will track the fact of both receipt & the counting of my vote.
Every positive action is another step forward in a resounding victory for Kam & the Union.
Bob Woodward will be on Lawrence on Monday Night. We truly are in this together.
Counsellor, thanks for the post and the heads up on Woodward. I'll have to record it; I'll be watching the conductor at 7:00 PDT (allegedly; I will be in the back row; watching the conductor is never a guarantee except on SOTU nights...)
Is “break a leg” appropriate for musicians? Have a great performance.
Always need those Tuba Tones from the back row.
They're not hedging. They have made their choice. The MSM is The Enemy of America.
Walter Cronkite is spinning in his grave, as are the Founders.
If you really believe this you have already admitted defeat. Because if the MSM truly actually supports Trump (which I believe to be nonsense) he will never be defeated. I acknowledge that a few big MSM outlets support him (Fox, WSJ) but most are either neutral or actually support Harris at least somewhat. Please stop the fear mongering and work like hell to get more purple to the polls. Particularly in the swing states.
I agree and that’s why I am currently in Nevada working my ass off to save democracy
Damn them!!
Thanks, media; very useful.
I just want the election to be over. These increasingly desperate antics prove who is going win. Let us get on with Vice President Harris and Governor Gipper dispatching candidate Trump and Senator Shady Vance to the great dust-bin of history.
We know who Trump is- the point now is to vote, vote ,and vote. Remind other democrats to vote- make calls- offer to help if there is confusion about how to vote or where to vote. And it doesn't matter if you're from a blue state- vote anyway- the more votes the better and the stronger the case for getting rid of the electoral college the more obvious it becomes that it stands in the way of true democracy.
Is The NY Times interview of Jd Vance on the networks? 60 minutes should audit this interview, the guy is pure fascist:
I agree - this should be in 36 point type at the top of every newspaper and the lead story for every news broadcast.
Absolutely! I am à horrified Swiss woman. Trump is a danger to the world! Why isn’t this story making headlines and being presented on all media now. Has it been written on X ? Truth Social, Fox News etc ?
You will never, never, never see that on the three sources you list. Sadly, those are the gospel sources for the fascist idiots that now make up the MAGAts of our country.
Milkey basically said the same thing when he retired from the military even though he didn’t use Trumps name. MSM is a disgrace
Exactly. Let's see what David Muir and Lester Holt do this evening (Mon Oct 14).
Gen. Mark Milley: “He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country…a fascist to the core.”
Trump supports Putin, a war criminal who has and is killing thousands of innocent Ukranian men, women and children. What does this say about those who support Trump? Christians? Matthew 25: 34-46 - "Even as you do it unto the least of these." I'll venture an opinion: they are Christians in name only, on the one hand, and seriously lack critical thinking skills, on the other hand.
No they are not
It’s a fine line to walk… publicize his rants or give him the air time he craves…
It is terrifying to think that the language, the vitriol, the contempt oozing from a desperate Trump could well incite violence, violent protests again. The former president disrespects every norm, every boundary in his grab at power. Milley nails it: Trump is full on fascist.
Milley not Miller. I missed the Autocorrect before I posted. Grrr.
Miller (Steven) is a full-on fascist.
Miller came with Bannon. Bannon is financed by Robert and Rebecca Mercer. Libertarian whacka doodles, yes fascist as ….
And creepy. Who TF spray paints their head?
Gail, well, the guy that's trying to make his skin color more like Kamala, for one.
I was remembering Miller’s ridiculous appearance on air with the spray painted fake hair. 😂
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/12/stephen-miller-spray-on-hair-changing-looks
Oh, I remember that, Gail! What a ghoul he is.
Jewish Nazi is what Miller is.
His Jewish family has disowned him. He's just a damn Nazi.
This is true. His maternal uncle David Glosser has come out to say that Stephen Miller’s family does NOT endorse his views.
Stephen Miller is, and he has dead looking eyes.
The windows to his vacant soul.
Yes, he most certainly is!
Terrifying is absolutely the correct word.
You can fix it by clicking on those three little dots in the lower right corner, and I hope you will. It's a relevant comment.
Yes, but those dots only appear later. Or at least, I've never figured out how to correct a comment immediately after posting. The dots show up after a reader responds to the comments. I corrected immediately after posting in the reply, but fixed it now.
Refresh your page.
From Vanity Fair:
Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.
“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”
Well, would be ever read anything. OTOH, it reminds me of as he has said of some women, "They're not my type.".
I'd say tr_mp has more than the concept of a Master Plan.
His brain is squirming like a toad.
B I N G O !!!
Neal Katyal said today to Jen Psaki he is truly alrmed by what MAGATs and their allies will do on Nov 5th.
Me too. No matter who wins, it won’t be over.
He's a fascist for sure. Not unrelated, he's also a male chauvinist. Just remember, he wants all women to tow a line that he and SCOTUS set because it's all about power. But, in this case, it's about Evangelical white men setting the rules. I am beyond stunned that there are indeed women in our country who will vote for Trump and against themselves. But there are.
The idea of a sexually predatory man like Trump claiming that he wants to be a “protector” of women is a sick lie from him.
Lies are his life's blood
But his voters and those in thrall to him in the GOP also support this, also are as disrespectful of norms, also fascists. It is easy to blame Trump. I no longer believe his voters are good people. They simply are not. He has told and shown everyone who and what he is, and half the US public thinks someone not acceptable in any position of public trust, not even dog-catcher, should be handed the nuclear codes.
Sickening - and irredeemable.
Steve, I am beginning to believe that of my former work cohort. Thrall seems to be the descriptive term; they've shut off their brains. A supervisor who once told me "you have to listen to each side as though they are telling the truth, and then figure out what happened" has now told me I've "drunk the liberal kool-aid" and refuses to see any other information. This guy is also a minister. Scares the crud out of me.
How disappointing.
In 2016 the election was between Hillary Clinton, a much hated woman for many and diverse reasons, and Donald Trump, a tv performer thought to be a successful billionaire business man. After 4 years of incompetent governance 81 million voters fired Trump . The winner, Joe Biden, had campaigned from his basement. As President Biden overcame Covid, reduced inflation and oversaw legislation that put the economy squarely back on its feet while avoiding a recession and creating millions of new jobs. Trump advanced a dystopian view of everything without relation to fact. A majority of Americans are not ignorant or evil enough to fall for the rantings of a narcissistic sociopath. They rejected him in 2020. There’s no reason they will change their minds to now support Trump in 2024 and reject a well liked, competent and articulate Kamala Harris. Harris will win in a landslide.
Your lips to God's ears.
As I was about to say.
Where was your "God" on January 6th?
Helping Mike Pence not get hanged.
I’m so hoping you’re right. I’m so scared and worried right now after reading tonight’s article… which I admit I have been for months … You make perfect sense. I’ve already voted … we all have to vote … Thank you for these encouraging words … Thank goodness also for Heather’s articles.
Only if people vote like their lives and those of their loved ones vote !! Especially in Pennsylvania and so called swing states
I couldn't agree more. It's really baked into the 2020, 7 million vote lead Harris is inheriting from Biden. Harris will gain votes beyond Biden's 81:million and The wannabe King Donald, in his madness, will lose votes.
One would hope, though I keep waiting to see his numbers drop like a boat anchor.
Exactly
Hillary Clinton was "much hated" because Republicans both in and out of elected office had been attacking her for more than a decade. There were repeated hearings about every possible event for which she might be blamed. During the campaign, the news media repeatedly banged away about emails, saying nothing about the differences between her and Trump. Remember -- this started with supposed scandals from before Bill Clinton was president!
They've been after Hillary for three decades or more.
Rooted in misogyny for sure.
Beat me to it!
The GQP said all sorts of nasty, untrue and insulting things about Hillary Clinton and made her sound like Lady Macbeth in a pantsuit. Trump behaves like he expects Hillary Clinton to come out of retirement to run again, but Ms. Clinton won’t do so. They are trying to claim Vice-President Harris is a Communist, which couldn’t be further from the truth. It could be they are using the peculiar American interpretation of the word “communist,” which goes back to the post Civil War era.
Trump hates and fears the Vice President because she is an intelligent woman who can and has gotten the better of him in debate. She defies his prejudices.
And worst of all she’s black and Asian.
George, yes, she will likely win the popular vote in a landslide. But the most important votes are the 270 needed to win the Electoral College, and that's where things get hinky.
One of the fallacies that many people seem to hold is that because someone appears to have been or is successful in their business venture(s) that this individual would be successful in the role of POTUS. This is not necessarily so, as the objectives of most businesses is one of maximizing profits and for publicly held corporations - it is creating value for it’s shareholders. The role of government(s) is almost entirely opposite. Some of the skills possessed by successful business persons can be applied in governmental leadership positions, but trump - who operates basically a glorified “mom and pop” entity in the other peoples’ money sector (real estate) possesses and exhibits very few of the skills to be a successful CEO of a publicly-held corporation!
They don’t understand the purposes of business and government are different. 45 years of unregulated capitalism has allowed a small percentage of the population to acquire obscene amounts of money, which they use to undermine the government so that it does not work for the people, but for themselves. It has also created a much larger class of poor people and decimated a middle class that was once admired, although we had a system designed to leave certain groups of people out of the middle class.
We need to rediscover the need to address the common good of all citizens, regardless of their background or origins. We cannot afford to leave people out. White rural voters are justifiably angry about the decimation of their opportunities, but propaganda outlets who cater to their anger encourage them to blame the wrong people. Professors and minority citizens didn’t consolidate their farms or ship their jobs overseas, it was greedy executives who did that.
So true Kathy … so frighteningly sad - but honestly true!!!
Kamala Harris needs a Democratic Congress, and key Senate and House races are running neck and neck. Pick any of the closest races to support with your donations and/or volunteer efforts, such as:
Colin Allred for Texas
Sherrod Brown for Ohio
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell for Florida
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2024/
For the House, open FiveThirtyEight and scroll to "What are the closest races?" 25 states have close races on this list:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/house/
As for Trump's campaigning in blue states, maybe he's actually campaigning in competitive House districts to support his MAGA sycophants in order to subvert the certification of Kamala Harris as President. This appears to have been the case for his Coachella rally where a really good Democratic candidate, Will Rollins, is within a few points of MAGA incumbent Ken Calvert for CA-41. Calvert co-hosted a fundraiser for Trump back in March, voted to overturn the 2020 election, and continues to be a Trumper election-denier.
As we look for where our donor dollars will have the most impact, Will Rollins CA-41 is one of the pick-up seats we can flip toward a much needed Dem majority in the House of Representatives.
https://willrollinsforcongress.com/
But again, support any of these close races for the Senate and House.
Tester (MT) and Brown (OH) are on my donate list. I'll add Allred (TX). I continue to support Bynam (OR) for Congress, hoping to flip Oregon's 5th district blue.
I have pointed out the same thing in other contexts or conversations, George: 81 million Americans gave TFG his walking papers. I point this out especially when I hear that 74 million voted for the Mango Menace. Simple 81>74. I still fear given how many of my friends and neighbors support TFG. Plus since 2020 there have been numerous voter suppression laws implemented in the name of protecting the vote against fraud. My state is one such place, sadly. I do fervently hope you are right that Harris will win.
"There’s no reason they will change their minds to now support Trump in 2024",
While I agree with your optimism, there are still enough Trump supporters and undecideds to swing it his way. I am worried that the Harris campaign and the DNC generally don't have it quite together.
I fear the same.
From your keyboard to G*d’s screen
Love your analogy!!
You know, this makes perfect sense (esp when we know for SURE that Republican base voters cast a ballot for someone other than Trump 10-30% of the time when they voted in GOP primaries earlier in 2024.
It makes perfect sense when you consider how angry even the GOP was after Jan 6th.
It makes even more sense after 2022 (Dobbs and the overturn of Roe) and all the special election and referendums since then where Dems overperformed.
BUT WHY AREN'T (any, or hardly any) the polls reflecting this? I mean, we were looking a little bit better for a while this summer and now pundits tell us "people still don't trust Kamala" and/or "her glow has worn off". HOW?
The main poll is the. NYTimes/Siena poll run by the Times. They want a horse race so the polls are skewed. Polls are opinions at a particular point in time based on what happened in past elections. But 2024 is not 2020 or 2016. Much has happened to the reputation of Trump. Nothing has happened to enlarge his base.
Polls are useless propaganda. They are biased and influenced by the fascists that are conducting them. We live amongst way too many ignorant and gullible fools that have been brainwashed by a raging crazed maniac that i keep hoping will DIE. TUMP is like a rabid animal that should have been put down years ago. I have no empathy whatsoever for that creature from hell. I never would have imagined that there was so many stupid idiots here in the United States that vote for that horrible creature. Too much stupidity exists here.
Of course, you’re right. But — the polls (and the many pundits who discuss them to the exclusion of REAL news!) are confounding. And it doesn’t help that you’ve got former wonder boy Nate SIlver (now self-employed) ….. except for that big consulting check he gets from billionaire Peter Thiel who’s a $70 million investor in the big betting site, PolyMarket!!
Anyway, I just looked at the Economist poll average - they have Harris at 50.3 to Trump’s 46.9. Interesting that at Biden lowest poll numbers, right before he dropped out, the Economist had the average at 47 Trump and 43 Biden - so Trump may really have a ceiling of 47.
Which amplifies the point that we need to get EVERYONE out to vote!! He, whose name will not be spoken or typed, does have a ceiling, and it is not a majority. It is up to us, to get everyone to cast their ballots this election. It has never been more necessary.
Mainstream media love the horse race aspect of politics, but they are loath to discuss the policy implications if Trump wins. They don’t cover the subjects they should be covering, and print newspapers are in trouble because of the massive loss of advertising revenue to the Internet.
Or to diminish it.
So the polls are being faked?? -- possibly to sell news? The media will get tRump elected.
Unfortunately, a majority of voters won't win the Electoral College. Right now voters are falling for tRump in the 40's%.
Anybody know which side General Randy A. George will be on? His nutcase-in-chief, or the rights of the people? Only the side with the most soldiers and weapons will stop this fascist takeover. . . or support it.
Who will tRump go after first? His staff will be too busy going after prominent "enemies" like Pelosi to go after ordinary Dems. Next will be rounding up people of color and any Caucasians they can identify such as Ukrainians.
Sorry if I am free-associating. . . I have never been so anxious about an election. My partner and I have talked about leaving the country to help the Ukrainians, but the less fortunate will be suffering HERE -- Repubs or an executive order could cancel the WIC program and other social funding to Blue states, and I live in one.
There are many polls—some are better than others because they are based in more data and better scientific methods. Some may even be fake, but not the most respected ones, surely.
I voted for Hillary Clinton because I didn't want Donald Trump. But my reluctance was because the POTUS had turned into a 'dynasty' role. Twelve years of Bushes, and twelve (or more) years of Clintons ? Yes, Obama was there for eight years. I'm glad none of his relatives aspired to the highest office. Thankfully, Harris doesn't have the dynasty aversion working against her.
I agree
I believe so too. He cannot, by any logic, have enhanced his electoral base, but it’s quite possible and even very likely that he has disgusted enough people who previously voted Republican.
I had a bumper sticker on my car today that said “cats for Kamala” and someone drove up next to me and gave me the “finger” then swerved a bit to try and frighten me off the road. The bumper sticker stays and I ain’t moving!
These call outs and chants from his supporters…”Kill them!” Trump, Vance, Musk,Miller..as well as all his Republican appeasers..are giving them license to swerve at people for ordinary bumper stickers. I admit that I am having an increasingly hard time tolerating people willing to support Trump given what he is unleashing since the debate but this propensity towards violence against fellow citizens (and I quake to think what black and brown people immigrants must be experiencing in particular) is unquestionably lopsided. They are intentionally provoking this maelstrom. My heart is in my throat imagining the aftermath of the election.
Yes, I agree. I’m very concerned about the election. But, let’s not lose faith.
Whether or not Trump wins, I fear he will encourage his backers to physically attack or even kill people, and that many of them might take him up on it.
Yep. That 'vibe' is already apparent here in Ohio, and I imagine it's even more so in places like Idaho, Arkansas, Texas, etc. It's everywhere around here.
I'm so sorry this happened? If you don't mind... please tell us in what state you were driving. I'm in Oklahoma and afraid to put anything political on my car.
Las Vegas, NV
So sorry. I have a friend who lives there. She is also a Democrat. I'll ask her if she feels safe mentioning Kamala Harris in public.
Tell her to join The Red Rock Democrats. We do a lot of good work for our candidates!
Same in Florida. The fear is real.
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Rosie the Riveter emoji!!! Recognisable even without headscarf and rolled-up sleeve.
Good grief.
We are with you if only in spirit.
Where you at, Janis? That happens every day, all day, in Miami-- sticker or no sticker. It's the drivers, not the polly tix.
No sweetie this doesn’t happen everyday here in Las Vegas, NV. Good try though.
I dunno. My husband and I went to Miami to see Hamilton just before the Covid lockdown and I had about 10 people roll down their window to tell me they liked my “Elect a Clown, Expect a Circus” sticker. I was astounded.
Oh, no, it is the politics. Three Harris signs in my neighborhood had the red circle with a line diagonal painted on them Friday night/Saturday morning. I have not seen a single fpotus sign in the area.
They are sick individuals who follow him!!!!
What a jerk that person was. I don’t put stickers on my car except for oil changes and parking pass, but that was a rather juvenile way for that person to express his or her distaste. I see a lot of Trump signs in more rural areas, and also Democratic candidate signs. There are two residences in the area where I live that are plastered with Trump signs and slogans. One of them has a front yard with Trump-Vance signs and has a sign about no fraudulent elections. We know good and well Trump lost the election fair and square, but he harbors grievances about it to the point where he initiated an insurrection to keep the Senate from certifying the electoral college count.
When I see Trump signs, my only thought is that if Trump wins, you will live to regret it.
🤬 Where are you?!
Las Vegas NV
Courage! And thank you.
A friend who recently returned from a trip across the U.S. told me that when she stopped for gas in a certain red state, the gas station refused to serve her because she had New York plates! She didn't even have any political stickers on her vehicle.
Trump is not only dangerous to the United States. He is a danger and a threat to the entire world. As to "protection", the only protection Americans need is protection FROM TRUMP.
Trump, MAGA, and corrupt plutocracy. I credit the unscrupulously wealthy with much of the momentum that sustains Trump and and the abiding Orwellian madness. Follow the money.
Yep.
Seeing how MUSK and Trump have created a bromance confirms what you say. The degenerate idiocy of their followers simply reinforces the plutocracy. Their followers do not realize how they, too,, will become victims of the Musks and the Trumps in this world. Add to them the Murdochs, the Bezos and the Sinclairs. We are "groomed" by their lies and their exaggerations.
Agreed!
This Letter should appear in full on the front page of the NY Times, The Washington Post, and every major paper in the U.S., especially in the Swing states. If only it were so. How is it possible, how is it possible that this monster could win the presidency?
If he "wins", there will be no presidency.
There won’t be, only a dictator for life. I do see the possibility that Vance will try to invoke the 25th amendment because Trump’s mental incapacity is worsening. It is a different issue than that of his destructive personality disorders, for which there is no treatment or cure.
That is the plan by Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. They can’t control crazy man Trump so have him win and then declare him incompetent and out their boy Vance in the presidency. Vance will do or say whatever they want.
If he loses, which I hope for, what violence will his madly rabid followers try? The Military must be ready.
He seems to think that the national guard and the military will be deployed immediately after November 5 to round up the enemies from within, per his iv on Fox yesterday. Does he plan to seize control on that day?
Evidently he does, and he has openly stated he plans to violate the Constitution from the time he is sworn in as President. The spineless Supreme Court majority has already violated its constitutional duties by claiming Trump’s powers and immunity are broad, and they have essentially declared they think Trump is above the law.
Spineless? Not at all. Determined? Absolutely!
1/3 of the people will physically attack another 1/3. The 3rd third will be overwhelmed cops and bodyguards
And hopefully that same military is loyal to the Constitution!
If there is violence, I'm thinking it'll mainly be in large cities and only some of them.
I wouldn’t count on that. It would occur everywhere.
It will be in the swing state urban areas where dems are strong. And it will be not just after there. The intent will be to intimidate and deter.
Welllll, there are a lot of stupid people in America...and they have the right to vote
YES!!!
Yes!! I was just getting to copy parts of it with a link and put it in as a comment in every NYT's article (regardless of the section, i.e. lifestyle, cooking, etc!!) I'll wager they won't print it. "Above the fold" in the major newspapers and MSM is all about trump this and trump that . . . .it is beyond sickening. When Ohio went for trump in 2016, the collective primal scream friends and I let out could probably been heard for miles!! And, we have never stopped.
I was out to dinner with a group from a golf outing -many who are readers of the "Letter". A couple of the ladies (mid-70's) noted they were becoming increasingly nervous and terrified at the thought of trump winning (which he could only do by cheating) and we pondered how Heather holds it together and, if underneath it all, is she as terrified as the rest of us?
Listen to Heather’s post again. The people that feel left behind and want to go back to the past patriarchal white Christian dominated society will continue to support him because he gives them someone to hate and not take responsibility for themselves. The crazier and more violent and repulsive, the more intense their support. As to the more educated and middle class members of the US, I just don’t get it. I ask myself the same about Hitler’s rise to power. That’s why they are using his playbook, they know it worked and is working for him. I am very very worried and will continue biting my nails for the next month at least.
Why isn’t there more of a grassroots movement to get democratic voters registered and to the polls, door-to-door?
Where do the Trump supporters get the idea that we need a dictator? You’re correct in that Trump gives them people to hate, and that they are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves and want to cede their power to a dictator. It won’t be long before they will bitterly regret having supported him, because he’ll give them hate figures, but he won’t lift a finger to help them. Trump wants unlimited power, he wants to receive unlimited wealth as a dictator, and he wants to govern out of spite and revenge. None of these things are good reasons to govern.
I would think the example of how Adolf Hitler came to power would be a warning to Americans about the danger of empowering someone like Trump, but sadly, some of us are ignorant of the dangers, and they are not educated to know how the government is supposed to function as opposed to how it does function. Teaching to standardized testing has been damaging to two generations of students.
Trump voters do not read those newspapers. They listen to the Trump echo chambers of Fox, Sinclair, newsmax etc.
Why I am very optimistic about Nov... It's not the polls... It's the 2020 numbers.
Here's my back of the envelope forecast:
The Joe Biden coalition of voters beat Donald Trump by 7 million votes in 2020, +81 million to 74 million, that is + 7 million votes! So the first question in forecasting this Nov's outcome is...Has Harris/Walz pulled the Biden coalition back together?
Miraculously, the answer is yes. Mostly..
Mostly means 3.5 million Biden voters have passed away based on mortality averages and it's likely 5-6 million voters simply can't vote for a Black woman for president. This includes Black and Latino men and White guys who believe a woman leader is either "weak" or "strident", both unattractive attributes in a President.
This leaves Kamala with 72-73 million votes from the Biden coalition. What is she likely to add? 7 million young first time voters, 3 million activated, pro-reproductive freedom white women voters, 1 million extra Black woman voters, 2 million Never Trump Republicans, Independents and Haley voters.
This brings Kamal's vote total to 85-86 million. And there is potential for more Harris votes because Trump is such a more deranged, repellant candidate this cycle than he was in 2020.
And what does Trump have? Trump starts with 71 million because 3 million of his voters have passed away. He adds maybe 3 million of those voters who cannot vote for a Black woman, 2 million young first time voters plus 1 million Black and Latino male voters. That gives Trump 75-77 million votes tops.
I think this total is optimistic because, as I said above, Trump is a more deranged, repellant candidate than he was in 2020. It's very likely that Trump will lose more voters and not get to the 74 million he got in 2020.
We have at least 10-15 million volunteers working day and night to put Kamala over the top. Trump has Trump and a very small ground game.
With my forecast, Kamala is likely to win the popular vote by 6%-7%. 53% to 47%. Enough to win the electoral vote with 4 swing states. And what about those scary polls? The polls have become particularly unstable but are are trending in Harris direction. Harris is up by 4-5% in more polls. If she wins by +6% the pollsters can say it was in the margin of error so why were we so irate? Actually because political polls, no matter how unbiased they try to be, partisan political tools that journalists use to tell election stories.
We just have to remember, polls don't win elections, voters do! So we have to keep going at 150% and sleep after Nov. 5th
We hope (& might just pray) that your analogy is correct.
How many of the deceased in Trump’s camp died because of his Covid 19 advice?
He lost quite a few. Trump supporters never thought COVID-19 would be a problem for them and were content to have the pandemic ravage poorer urban communities, then they refused to get vaccinated against COVID because of all the antivax garbage that appeared on social media. Quite a few died, while others experienced permanent health damage due to ignoring sensible medical advice.
Thank you!!!
We have to keep going up through January 6 and beyond. I also hope with all my hopefulness that there are enough swing states that will tip the electoral college votes to be overwhelming for Harris. The EC must NOT choose our next president.
Standing ovation for this analysis. Thank you!
And on Sunday Night Football today, trump ran an add claiming Harris funded sex change operations for convicted felons while she was CA DA.
I can’t even begin to put words together to counter that level of bullshit.
Then the Lincoln Project HAS to get that commercial of a daughter dying from an untreated pregnancy complication, remembering as she dies everything she loved about her father, onto the NFL! It ends when she says, "But you voted for hate, Dad", and we see him sitting with his head bent next to an empty hospital bed. You can probably find it if you google "Daisy".
Trump should be asked to document precisely how such transactions took place.
Count me absolutely BLOWN AWAY!!!
By Reuters
January 6, 20179:45 PM EST
Updated 8 years ago
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A transgender California prison inmate who was born male but identifies as female underwent gender-reassignment surgery PAID FOR BY THE STATE (!) this week in what is believed to be the first such case in the United States, her attorneys said Friday. The state had promised to refer inmate Shiloh Quine, then 56, to a surgeon and pay for the procedure as part of a 2015 settlement making the state the first in the United States to offer inmates a regular path to such treatment.
Count me absolutely BLOWN AWAY!!!
By Reuters
January 6, 20179:45 PM EST
Updated 8 years ago
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A transgender California prison inmate who was born male but identifies as female underwent gender-reassignment surgery PAID FOR BY THE STATE (!) this week in what is believed to be the first such case in the United States, her attorneys said Friday. The state had promised to refer inmate Shiloh Quine, then 56, to a surgeon and pay for the procedure as part of a 2015 settlement making the state the first in the United States to offer inmates a regular path to such treatment.
My hubby and I watched The Manchurian Candidate (a remake with Denzel, Streep, etc.) and we kept saying "Woah!"...it is frightening how a movie from 2004 could have a plot line out of today's "politics". Frightening...and disgusting. Fear...even back then, it was all about instilling fear.
The book it's based on goes much farther back. It was written in 1959 by Richard Condon -- 65 years ago!
yes...we plan to watch the original and then seek out the book...good reminder - thanks!
I call the disgusting fascist the Manchurian Canteloupe.
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It’s an appropriate name! 😂😂😂
My husband and I watched the original film just last night! I’d been convinced that I’d seen it before, but quickly realized I hadn’t. It’s fantastic in a hundred ways—the acting and writing are superb—but there were so many lines which could come from any story today about Trumpism that it started to seem like a dream!
You can stream it free on Kanopy, courtesy of many public libraries. Check your library’ site under “databases” or “online resources”—your library card will get you in.
I have had the same thoughts for the last eight years
Watch the original; it is much better.
Our current reality is half Manchurian Candidate and half Being There (the Peter Sellers movie).
Doubling, tripling my work and effort to see that Donald Trump does NOT return to the White House!
Do Something! Donate. Call. Help Get The Vote OUT!
General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump: “He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country…a fascist to the core.” No wonder he responded to Michelle Obama, whom he sat next to at Bident's Inauguration, to her comment, "I'll bet you're glad to be out of there" -- General Milley said, "You have NO IDEA." Now we all know what he knew.
Why did Milley not talk about this openly before?
I don't know. And why didn't Woodward release this information LONG ago? Just for the MONEY?
I had the same question a few days ago. If Woodward and/or Milley were facing real life threats, what changed that they are coming out now with the book (Woodward) and the comment (Milley)?
This is a great time to come out with the book—it’s news!
I have been wanting to say this since book came out - Woodward holding this information back from the public - GREED.
The same with Bolton. The same with pence. THEY KNEW BUT REFUSED TO SPEAK UP. They failed we the people!!!!
My guess Milley is caught between the need to speak out and (even in retirement) professional conduct. He was pretty up front in his retirement speech:
“We are unique among the world’s militaries. We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator,” Milley said at a ceremony in Virginia.
“And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator,” he continued. “We don’t take an oath to an individual. We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is America — and we’re willing to die to protect it.”
You are right - Milley upheld professional conduct and standards, not even mentioning tfg in his retirement speech (about a year ago). At that time the felon and wannabe dictator who is trying to get back into the White House had already threatened him with execution, something that should be reserved for traitors like trump.
I would settle for lock him up.
You are absolutely correct!!!
Thanks, JL.
Because he’s been facing real life threats. The fascist is a mobster.
Wannabee mobster anyway. He got cozy with the mob, but I doubt they would ever trust him.
He has admitted he is probably facing recall and a court marshal if Trump is reinstated. I am not sure this is what deterred him, probably not given his character, still…
Said Milley: "we are not easily intimidated.”
I think that Kamala needs to use stronger language to call him out. She succeeded in taunting him in the debate. She should talk about his refusal of a second saying “he’s afraid because I wiped the floor with him the first time”. What happened to our tough prosecutor???
Maybe she's not the person who has to get tough. Milley had the right idea, and bravo to Bob Woodward and his publisher for rush printing his book. And if Republicans are not cooperating with preparing for a smooth transition should they wind, it's time now to blow the whistle loud and often. We must demand a Constitutional government.
My worry abound this advice from political wonks like Carville is that there is such a gender driven double standard at play …it basically oozes from the press headlines and comments like Huckabee-Sanders about the need for Harris to be humble. She is walking a tightrope. For some reason the US cannot tolerate aggressively strong women leaders it seems on the surface at least. Compare this to Iron woman Margaret Thatcher in the UK who ascended to and held power for so long there. Harris and her campaign know that this election is an existential moment and they have the Hillary Clinton collapse in the immediate rear view mirror. It is crucial they court the middle and the middle is pretty muddled.
I've seen a lot of men, mostly black, saying they will not vote for Harris because other world leaders will walk all over a woman. Republicans want to weaken any strong democratic woman by saying these things & I too think Harris should hit him hard.
Oh, you mean like they walked all over Angela Merkel? Or Jacinda Arden? Or Margaret Thatcher?
Any of these women would have wiped the floor with that Orange tub o’ lard.
So did Kamala. That’s why he won’t debate her again.
How many Trump voters do you think listen to or read msm? In my experience their minds are closed tight and they want no new input. I’ve been canvassing and when dumpy, grumpy older man answers the door, it’s the first clue that it’s a Trump voter. When they refuse material it’s a sure thing. Nothing new to learn in their world.
James Carville was interviewed today by Jen Psaki and essentially said the same thing... that Kamala Harris needs to use strong language now, because it's clear Trump is a fascist. Here's the interview...
https://youtu.be/ZlPzHGh5B6o?si=zaB8fniKRerFxoeB&t=374
Kamala was doing just that today in North Carolina. We all know she "wiped the floor with him."
He knows it and man-baby ran to his hate-crip with his baby bottle of diet-coke.
Often times actions speak louder than words...........Kamala Harris knows that.........She will be the one who for the last time shouts......."YOUR FIRED!"
Brilliant as usual Heather. But maybe you can explain to us where our major news outlets have disappeared to, and why? Why are there not 2-inch headlines about this on the NY Times and Washington Post? How are the ABC and CBS Sunday morning news programs able to hold twee little polite interviews with the enablers of this clearly insane wannabe dictator? Have we as a nation completely lost our will to survive as the world’s preeminent democracy? Is there historical precedent or discernible reason for this? We need your help to understand where and why we are so apparently weak.
BlackRock and Vanguard are major shareholders in both the NYT and WaPo. They are also majority shareholders in TrumpMedia.
It's a 50/50 race... the media oligarchs have to consider how things might be for them if Trump wins.
If Trump's supporters think that he is their protector, they are sadly mistaken. Time to reread FIRST THEY CAME, by Martin Niemöller
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.
I think of this lament daily now.
Which was autobiographical.
I didn't know that
Niemöller supported Hitler until he got a better look, then he was sent to a concentration camp. He was rescued by the Allies.
Thanks. I did not know this!
This post is truly frightening.
Agreed.
"... how is it possible that this monster could win the presidency"?
Simple. He won't.
The machine working to disenfranchise voters, and the paid off judges, may try to hand it to him anyway. But if we bury them in a Blue Wave turnout the judges will hide, hoping to survive for another day.
But they won't.
I’m far less worried about him winning the vote and much more concerned about post election violence… and then what? What agency remains after we win the election?
I think about THIS more than the election results themselves. Until January 6, at least, Biden will call the shots. Peaceful protesters will not be subject to arrest and detention/deportation/capital punishment. But I agree that individual/collective agency in the looming dark days post election might to many be limited to looking for out of the country sanctuary.
Biden is President until noon on January 20.