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Ah, now I remember why I forgot it all. Those over-subtle Greeks, who only ever came together to fight the Persians, were fascinating but complicated, although I suppose that dating by Olympiads or priestesses or rulers was normal for them. I wonder if all this complexity was why they were so good at mathematics and abstract thinking? (or was it vice-versa?), whereas the Romans, those practical plodders, were good engineers.

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