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And in 60-plus days, they get to play the same game of "chicken" again. Just do a CR that lasts till January 10, 2025 (give them a week for the new congressional Democrat majority to fix things) and then forget about anything else. Go campaign against these permanent pre-pubescents of the Trump Party and get rid of them.

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EXACTLY!!! At least pass funding for ONE FULL YEAR. This “game” of chicken is the real failure theater — and a major contributing factor the the US credit being downgraded. 😡

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What's hilarious is that they have kicked the can a full 1/3 of the way down the road at this point. I'm trying to imagine turning in my term paper 4 months late in college. Like, just showing up to the office of the professor of the class I failed at the end of last year, putting it down on their desk, and being like "So, we cool?" What would the reaction be? Then again, I was also taught in college that plagiarism was a serious offense, and we have a major party's frontrunner obviously plagiarizing Hitler's Greatest Hits, so...

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Or you could have done the Republican thing and just made up the entire paper including the references. TFFG says things like, "People say", or "Everyone says" or "It's a hoax" or "It's a witch hunt." Why not do the same thing and reference some really obscure made up journals, etc. Sure you would have received a C or D but it would have saved you a lot of time and you could have utilized your creative skills.

/s

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Oh hell, just use A.I. using death star's speeches with some Hitler's thrown in. Gary, you are giving me a chuckle first thing this am. I have to add sites which the people who tell me dig deeper use like Judicial Review. Lots of wing nut sites on the internet to use as reference. What a paper a person could turn in....maybe a few quotes from ignorant family members thrown in that people will garner next week.

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TTFG?

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Gary wrote TFFG, which I take to mean "the f**king former guy."

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That was the only "second F" I could think of. Sigh......

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So we should plagerize Hitler's greatest failures, like bombed out Berlin in 1945

https://images.app.goo.gl/3F5tLwqNGwcX7rFd6

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Neo-Nazis always amaze me. Hitler was truly history’s biggest loser. He took the most powerful nation in Europe and turned it into a smoking ruin, a modern Carthage. Even aside from his psychopathy, bigotry and viciousness (if you can, somehow, put them aside), how can anyone admire him?

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Actually WW1 turned Germany into a smoking ruin. The nascent Weimar Republic (a democracy) failed under the onerous conditions imposed by the victors of WW1 to make Germany pay reparations for war debts. (The iconic image of the Weimar Republic is wheelbarrows of cash needed to pay for bread.) That led to the people dumping democracy for a strongman (Hitler). After WW2, Those lessons learned led to the Marshall Plan, a most extraordinary, liberal investment in our enemies that turned them into our NATO friends. The Marshall Plan was not without its dissenters. But it literally changed the nature of global relationships.

A similar Marshall Plan is happening right now in America. After 50 years of disinvestment and hollowing out of America (both the US and Latin America) by our own leaders (led by reactionary, Republican and "neoliberal" theory), we now have a subset of people willing to ditch democracy and vote for a Hitler--like "strongman". They point to weakness created by such disinvestment as their reasoning, failing to see that they created the conditions for American versions of a Weimar Republic.

But the Infrastructure Plan passed by Democrats is sponsoring the majority of projects (by number, not necessarily by dollars) in US Republican States, including rural areas as well as big cities. It is the lessons from the Marshall Plan renewed. May it go on to have the same spectacular success. Current GDP growth, falling inflation, and vigorous support of democracy certainly point us (and US) in a favorable direction.

Keep that in mind when answering that badly written poll question asking if you believe the country is going in "the right direction" (without ever specifying what exactly the person is thinking of to support their response.)

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Thank you, Barbara S, for this summary of what I sort of already knew. It bears repeating publicly and that's what you've one for us all. I remember wondering why our highway system hadn't been upgraded or improved since I was a little girl. That was part of my finally awakening to what politics really is (are?). Having been raised in heavily red-lined northeastern Ohio during the Eisenhower years when my parents were still in their own twenties, it was then that they and their children were seduced into thinking Eisenhower represented all the Republicans that followed. So most of those people are still Republicans, generation after generation. I moved away. I was a late bloomer, and when in my own late twenties, I started to pay attention and wake up when Reagan talked about Trickle Down economics and fired all the Air Traffic Controllers for striking for better pay and work conditions and banned them for working in that capacity for the rest of their lives. I started to see that "these" people were not kind, didn't care about people, and were out for control and money. And it still is for the vast majority of them. It continues to be disheartening. Heather's news wrap today was nicely upbeat!

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I refuse to look at polls. They depend so much on the questions asked and the people who make up the set. Btw, the Marshall Plan paid for my husband to visit England and Sweden some years ago to look at their unemployment plans.

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Small dissent. First, I was thinking of Germany in 1939. And the Weimar Republic was actually quite strong economically for some years in the 1920s.

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When you are ignorant and uneducated you will fall for this s—t!

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Did you include Russia as an European country? Attacking Russia while having several fronts going at the same time..ooops. was a mistake. Saw a picture of a boa (or python) who ate a porcupine. Quills sticking out all over and it obviously died. It bit off more than it could digest.

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Actually, many historians believe that Hitler’s biggest mistake was declaring war on the United States, on December 11, 1941. On December 8th, after FDR’s Day of Infamy speech, we declared war only on Japan. Germany and Italy doomed themselves three days later, by declaring war on the US.

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Oh my! What strikes me is "The damage was largely the result of incendiaries, not high explosives, so there wasn’t much to cause craters." The ration system was certainly creative (not!) and women rebuilt the city! Wow. Thank you for the link.

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Wow, how interesting. Thanks.

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Plagiarism - During my first year of my degree I omitted a reference in an essay simply through error. I received the snakiest letter about it from the faculty, rather than the marking tutor taking me aside and asking what happened and did I realise my mistake.

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Martin, speaking of ‘snakey’ which, by the way, is a perfect description, I was yanked out of lunch by a faculty member my senior yr in high school, and accused of plagiarizing the poem I’d written because .... get this .... I hadn’t shown an aptitude for writing poetry before. She had not a shred of proof. I won 2nd prize because of that rather than first.

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Terrible abuse of power. Every teacher has a responsibility to model "think before you act." I'm so sorry.

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Pat, yes. It’s very like too many petty bureaucrats, who too often abuse the little power they think they have. I

wonder what occurred in her life? She must have been creatively stymied-even abused.

It goes on and on ….

It’s such a tiny thing in retrospect,

but these minute things can grow like a destructive weed. Ie the orange shrub to Maga republicans now Maganazis.

P S (I do continue to write poetry:-)

You must have been a wonderful & very thoughtful teacher.

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I worked in education for years and was sometimes amazed and embarrassed by what some of my colleagues did.

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Good grief.

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Exactly Ally. I had a music composition professor in college, who it appeared could not write a lyrical score. I think he disliked me in part because lyricism came naturally to me; plus I had the temerity to use a fifth in an assignment (that resolved) plus my fellow students enjoyed playing & listening to it.

I think you’re a musician.

Brava!

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That's appalling. A typical knee-jerk reaction without fact finding first and at a place of learning that tends to deal in facts!

I think there is a lot of ego involved in such places. I received the highest mark for an essay about species extinction and conservation in third year. My introduction quoted Douglas Adams opening to the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy which the market said was unusual but interesting. Dr M the course lecturer pointedly remarked in the next lecture that he didn't see why a student, looking at me, should get such a high mark. When I looked at the scores posted on the faculty noticeboard by Student ID I saw that one of his favourites had their mark boosted above mine with a handwritten amendment. You tended to learn some people's ID when you did group work. So it goes on all over.

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I hope you have continued to enjoy writing poetry despite the interference of misguided judges.

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Most definitely!

And, thank you:-)

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Makes me think back to how students were "advised" by their high school counselor back around 1950 or so? Girls were to be nurses or teachers - period. Aptitude either was ignored or unknown!!!

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Yes indeed Maggie.

Too many times I was advised to learn to type well. I was dyslectic, but that condition was an unknown then,; I typed backwards on common words like ‘the’:-) But simultaneously told I could become the leader of whatever place I was working as a girl Friday.

Thank the goddess that has shifted for the generations that followed.

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A college professor gave me a D- for a paper that had no references because she didn't think I could to the critical thinking the paper demonstrated. Told me she had no proof except I always looks sleepy at 8am on Saturday mornings. I threatened to go to the Dean. Next paper I cited references for every paragraph. Still irks me.

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So sad...sorry you went through that! Academia can be cutthroat as well.

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I taught for 15 years as an “instructor,” managing to escape most of what you’re describing, popular with students. Then at a university rated near the bottom in my field (having come from one of the top four) I got called in by a contemporary whose required class I was taking as I worked on my PhD. She complained that I was too nice to my class. I replied with the story of Voltaire, awakened by a group of five musicians, who said that the path to learning should be strewed “with flowers.” She never bugged me again.

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Voltaire had the best answers! And, love your retort.

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But I am embarrassed! Writing “Voltaire” when I should have written “Montaigne.” Both were wise and witty men, but Montaigne precedes Voltaire by well over 100 years. It is in his “essais” that he writes about education.

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Will, just as an amusing aside (I agree with you completely): I have actually had the scenario you describe happen. Numerous times in my 35 years of classroom teaching. So the example is quite apt. Because the university administration more or less demands that the faculty accept that behavior.

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Can't chase away the paying customers. Just a new turn on "the customer is always right." <heavy sarcasm or irony">

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My experience teaching in a private school K-8. No backup in dealing with one boy in particular. But the following year, the school lost about 20 families not willing to accept their kids being in class with him.

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Well, that says it all.

Being homeschooled, I always got asked "how will he know how to deal with bullies?" Which is ridiculous because a) it sounds like you think I *should* be bullied, and b) you think there weren't bullies among the homeschool kids??? Indeed, similar to your story, there were definitely one or two kids in different groups who ceased to come after a significant number of parents made a "him or all of the rest of our kids" stance known. This was avoided if at all remotely possible, but sometimes it just needed to happen.

Most kids just need help, but some are just terrors. I guess it starts out real early.

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you got it!

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35 years at a university? I just turned ashen. Thank you for your service in the trenches! :-)

Seriously though, the American voter is like a teacher looking out at a class, one half of which never turns in the homework and spends their time flying paper airplanes and giving each other wet willies, but that half get a never-ending series of passes, because the other half are nerds, and we all know the nerds are stuck-up and boring, and we can't reward that now can we?

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The Chronicle of Higher Education this past week devoted their headline articles to the growing problem of teacher intimidation by increasingly aggressive and (frankly) terrifying students. Since I have had a few of those in my life as well (one decided to use the tactic of threatening the families of his professors instead of doing his work, and that was not shut down by the administration until a dean started getting threats from this student) I can tell you the problem is getting worse.

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Stephen Colbert remarked that they've "split the can into two halves" and have made that road much MUCH longer.

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In regards to the infrastructure bill: I am reminded of my 2 dogs (retrievers). I would throw a stick out into the water. The labrador (spelling)would leap into the water, swim out a good distance, get 2/3s of the way back, then the spaniel would leap in, grab the stick away, and bring it back to shore to get full credit for the retrieve.

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Will, ......plagiarizing Hitler's Greatest Hits, not as much an exaggeration as some might think. '24 election had better not be close. I hate to think that there are that many Americans that might want a vindictive dictator who sees anyone that opposes him as a target for what he might do.

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When I read the names of the 10 senators who voted against the CR, my thought was “And whose butt are they kissing?”

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Tuesday night, Colbert's guest was Rachel Maddow. The subject was fascism, Republican-style. The conversation was sparked by Trump's Hitler-esque "vermin" speech. Trump is trying to water down the word "fascist" by calling Democrats fascists. I coined a new word. It's Trump-proof. The word tested well in the online reader-comment forum of The Washington Post and here at "Letters from an American." The Republican party no longer exists. When referring to Trump and the Republican Party, instead of "fascist," call them the MAGANAZI Party.

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I like it.I also like someone else’s “Putinistas”.You are right.They are no longer a party but have become a cult.

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Have been a cult for a long while

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The tricky part, I find, is the people who are neighbors or acquaintances who are not overtly Trump supporters, but get behind his ideas and elected officials. Calling them Maganazi’s further alienates. The Marjorie Taylor Greene’s aren’t even worth discussing. Winning the hearts and minds of the foolish and scared public who believe the propaganda is a hill to climb and win.

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No, it is not. Focusing on them is how we lose. They don’t want to be won over and it’s wasted effort.

Instead, we focus on the people who are sick of the hatred and division. We focus on the young voters. We focus on the disenfranchised voters who get intimated and bullied into staying home. We show them how Biden is working to make their lives and opportunities better. We show them the proof of Democrats making mature decisions. This is the hill to climb and win.

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Tamara, I think the GOP needs to be attacked on all fronts, of which there are many.

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I agree. I listed out a few of those fronts in my prior comment. I know there are more, which is why focusing on this one group of people is a fool’s errand.

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We need to do both.

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a coalition! for every squad that walks, another will chew gum.

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Jennifer, try living in a community and county

In which Trump signs and downright hatred of president Biden abound. I'm surrounded by seemingly decent and kind people who worship Trump and still believe that he won the 2020 election. I was told by someone early on in his presidency that if people in my county knew how I felt about Trump ( I get nauseated even looking at him) , they'd come and hang me. What???

I just can't understand their love and support of someone who is definitely unbalanced and extremely dangerous. On second thought, I do understand. They are blatantly racist, selfish, and resent the government's attempt to help

those in need. They will say that Biden has done NOTHING of substance. I try to remind them, but they spew FOX "News" propaganda back at me. Confronting them about their feelings is useless. That hill to climb is definitely looming.

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Pam, converting the brainwashed is pretty much impossible. Concentrate on persuading the youth, the moderates and the Independents to vote blue.

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And reach Dems who may need a little (or big) push to get out and vote.

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Speaking of voting...we just had a Democrat run for our city council who lost by ONE vote...every vote matters...we need them ALL

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I agree. There are about 77 million Americans age 60 and up. Each year about 3 million of those 77 million die. So about 24 million of us over age 60 in 2016 will have passed away before Election Day 2024. And with Covid-19 there were about 1.5 million more that died in that age group. So roughly 1/3 of those eligible to vote in 2016 are dead. Many of the deceased were MAGANAZIs who have been replaced by Gen-Xers and Millenials who lean Democrat. Attrition will eventually take the MAGANAZIs dontcha think? The challenge is to get the 18-40 year olds to vote.

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Interesting stats, Gary. We still have our work cut out for us, however we can to get out the blue vote.

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You're right!

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We spend part of each year in an area where trump signs abound. There are even a few who decorate their property with several signs and even make some themselves...

The difference is that Biden supporters are not trying to do battle; there are no yards covered with Biden signs. Yes, there's a fair amount of intimidation involved; those trumpsters are armed and dangerous. But I can't help but wonder what kind of need is being met by keeping political signs up year after year? And there are Biden supporters quietly going about their business.

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Truly frightening, and not worth confronting. We have zero bumper stickers on our cars, and when when we put up the flag on Veteran's Day, our neighbor flew one next to his Trump flag. When I cast my ballot in a recent local election, I made sure to mail it rather than handing it over to the people running the poll. At least I can track it by mail.

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Jennifer, in my experience, when I have gently tried to point out the "news" that they are consuming and basing their opinions on is suspect, their standard reply is "well, we believe that about you." No amount of actual information will counter what they present as "evidence" from OAN/ NewsMax/ Faux or Prager U, even as I calmly refute that garbage with actual facts.

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[sigh!]

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Ally, as I just wrote to Pam, converting the brainwashed is pretty much impossible. We must concentrate on persuading the youth, the moderates and the Independents to vote blue.

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I have tried passing on info from the Wall Street Journal or Forbes to people who believe government statistics are made up. Why would WSJ lie about economic data? My ploy has not been terribly successful, sorry to say.

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Well from my six weeks of hell taking care of a friend who watches nothing but faux, there is no winning them over.

Came close once but I still lost.

And one other thing is that most of the people I know who voted for him, vote one issue,so in their mind they're right by doing what their religious leaders have told them to do.

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Someone in my family convinced my MAGA brother to listen to jazz rather than Fox most of the time. I don't think it will change his vote, but it does make civil conversation possible.

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This is very important. I recall a comment on a Washington Post article within the last few days from someone who lived through WWII in Berlin as a German civilian, probably an early teenager. He recalled seeing the most loving grandmothers turn into rabid haters and Hitler supporters during the war, and then live out their live out their lives as loving grandmothers once it was over.

The vast majority of people just want to be left alone to live their lives. They will vote for whoever they think is most likely to let them do that, and support those people's policies as long as they don't have personal repercussions. Hitler came to power because the failed Weimar Republic threatened day-to-day existence through runaway inflation (thanks, Treaty of Versailles). He promised, and initially delivered, a reprieve from that failed government. Once people trusted Hitler to run the government and the economy, inertia took over and good, mainstream German citizens gave him a pass on his real agenda - heck, they even pitched in. With the end of the war, they simply realigned their political views once again to the Allied forces who, thanks to the Marshall Plan, once again gave them the opportunity for a "normal" life. But it is important to remember that life was "normal" throughout the period, where "normal" is a relative term.

Those of us on this list tend to surround ourselves with people who take an activist role, but it's important to remember that the vast majority of voters, like the Germans in the 1930s, just want to be left alone to live their lives, and will vote for whoever makes the most convincing promise that they will provide that security. That majority, who tend to be politically uninformed, are also the most likely to fall for good-sounding sales pitches promising unlikely but attractive solutions to perceived problems, some of which only exist in their minds because of a previous good-sounding sales pitch.

It is that majority of mostly apathetic people, whose idea of political citizenship is to vote once every four years, who must be convinced. They are reachable - the power in red states over the past two years of the single issue of abortion shows that - but it takes a willingness to reach out to the people who are not on the political spectrum at all except when they absolutely have to be.

Don't alienate them, talk to them, and convince them. If they're neighbors, you already have a connection. Use it.

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Foolish, scared, greedy?

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

Yes! Recently heard someone coin “MAGAphone”. So shall we say the Maganazis use their MAGAphones to loudly proclaim their discontent?

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Yes! I heard Carol Leonig say that on Deadline White House.

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Aha! Couldn't remember where, but yes, now I recall. Thx for reminder. Didn't she also say something like, “That (word) just popped out as I was talking?”

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Sometimes they publish their ideas in MAGAzines.

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Sounds about correct to me 😈

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I think fascist nihilist party makes sense

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I agree, the Trump/MAGA Republicans are Fascist and nihilistic, motivated by their intense racism to set up a white Protestant autocracy. These folks are the 21st century edition of the KKK.

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RepubliKlans?

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I have decided to switch from my favored "RepubliQans" (indicating they were Q conspiracists) to RepubliKans, where the "K" can have it's common 3 K message regarding the Klan, or to be an acknowledgment of the Klown Kar Kawkus, reflecting what the current House majority party is ruled by.

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RepubliKlans? That is a juicy utilization of one's gray matter. Yes, definitely. The RepubliKlan Party. The Republican Party, the party of Ronald Reagan, is no more. It has melted away into a cult, elevating a completely worthless glob of human flesh as its leader. TFG could easily be another Hitler, Pol Pot, Vladimir Putin or Stalin.

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Richard, I hate to clue you in, but Ronald Reagan's GOP was a cult, too, and ought to have been treated as such. The Reagan Democrat was a miscreant.

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A Fever in the Heartland by Timothy Egan

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Not just Protestant, a particular brand which they have trademarked “Christian.”

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Evangelical Christian and that includes most of the US Catholic Bishops. Note that Pope Francis finally had to fire one of them!

There used to be watchdogs in the Federal government that would send letters to Pastors/Priests who got blatantly political in sermons...

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Yes yes yes ! Greg get that over to James Caravelle. I think that over the next 11 months leading up to the most critical election of all time. (I don’t think I am exaggerating) messaging is crucial. On the economy and how under the worst conditions this administration and a Democrat Congress passed legislation and executed an economic recovery. On a specific straight forward immigration law that everyone can live with (notice I don’t say only Democrats). On controlling gun violence through a national “red flag” law and restrictions on military style weapons. On a whole host of “kitchen table” issues where we need workable solutions to give people hope that their lives can and will get better.

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HCR’s factual info aside, I think many people don’t feel the economic recovery— or haven’t experienced it, so the positive numbers info strikes them as untrue. They can’t replace their old car or find a decent place to live they can afford or pay for medical insurance or… then the “inflation is down” message doesn’t tally. Or they just can’t imagine doing what the ads spew. What Bidenomics is doing is slow going to turn around a very large barge of dumping on the un-elite. So I think all the touting of the great economic benefits isn’t going to do it, which is why the pro-choice messages might, maybe…Then finding our way out of hate and misplaced blame is another struggle. People who channel their hate on Biden or the Dems have found a programmed scapegoat which, while hugely misplaced, feels comforting. They can DO something about it and that is to support the biggest ‘Victim’ of all to show their disgust and unease. They feel victimized, so he’s their guy. Lots to do before Election Day to navigate this all!

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George, I think you mean James Carville?

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I think he got spell checked.

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That’s good. I think I’ll use it!

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I don’t know if sayin “Liked” is the right thing to say. It is more “Agree” to your comment than liked. There is nothing to like about the maganazi in our country and especially in the House of Representatives 😡

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When MTG called out Darrell Issa, I had to laugh.

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Done!

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I just call them the party of death.

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I love it! The Trump-Limbaugh-Hitler trifecta. Was that you or Colbert?

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Great idea! Although I also like referring to the Mango Mussolini.

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

"Permanent pre-pubescents"... Thanks for that -- despite the aspersion on children, who aren't all stupid schoolyard bullies...

This lot graduated from schoolyard to jailhouse a long time ago; but as long as they're not safely locked up it's the whole country that's shackled. Humiliated in the eyes of the world.

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Real children are children who are finding their way. In some respects we go on finding our way throughout life, but it's also important to put away some childish things. An emotional child in an adults body can be a real problem, especially one with a nasty streak.

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Okay, I call 'em Vogons.

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TC, and when you campaign, pick a project funded by a Biden bill in your area, and point out that the Republicans voted against it. Biden is being very smart by pushing bills that provide jobs that people can be proud of.

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Not only should a sign be posted at the job site stating that it is a Infrastructure Act project by President Biden but a billboard should be placed saying that the Republican congressman, by name, voted no on the bill providing the funds for the project.

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A billboard at the job site should also indicate how many local jobs are/will be created by the project?

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Brilliant!

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Check the parking lots of construction sites

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Here's an excellent source of info on those projects.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/biden-administration-investment-tracker/

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I seem to remember that big signs at construction sites gave President Obama credit during the “great recession”. I’ve been hoping to see them from Biden’s administration.

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

“New Democrat majority???” Surely, TC, you mean “Democratic majority.” Republicans have used “Democrat party” as a slur since the 1940s, showing that they don’t respect us enough to use our actual name. It’s a small thing, but don’t fall into the trap. Don’t use it, and correct those who do. (As I am doing here.)

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My brother in the grammar game!! Unless and until the wordsmiths who write dictionaries decide that "democrat" can be both a noun and an adjective (just like the word "republican", democrat is the noun and democratic is the adjective.

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Don't get me started on use of nouns as verbs (when I had an assistant, the use of "access" or "impact" as a verb was a firing offense), or, heaven forbid, split infinitives! (For those who are tempted to point out that dictionaries approve of them, dictionaries are descriptive, while I am prescriptive. And even if split infinitives were not bad grammar, they are bad writing. Always.)

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It's hard enough when there are intelligent people who continue to add apostrophes to plurals (e.g., plural's, eye's and ear's). <eye roll>

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Oh dear! When I taught writing at Rutgers, the grammar books (two versions) explained the helpfulness of sometimes using apostrophes for clarity, not the necessity.

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I try very hard not to critique such bloopers from writers on this stack when otherwise the meaning is clear enough.

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Around here (Georgia), if you want to see abuse of the English language taken to never-imagined heights, just tune into the social media site, NextDoor. It can be very handy for local goings-on, but my word, folks here DO do things to the language I never imagined! Today's was a response to a post about laws regarding "Boundary Line Trees" and the writer said: "Your way or there's". My brain exploded.

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I go along on splitting infinitives, and even on the mundane examples of noun-verbs. But fresh uses of noun-verbs can be poetic.

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Poetic? OK. But much more often lazy. Like splitting infinitives.

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Ciao Ally, I agree with you and Jon about the GOP's use of "democrat" as a slur and putdown, but English is a living, changing language, and I am not aware of any final authority on usage. Modern dictionaries do tend to be descriptive, but old ones like my massive Webster's, published in the early 1930s and left to me by my grandfather, is quite prescriptive. It requires a pedestal.

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I totally agree with you. Using Democrat as an adjective is a put-down.

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Then there was my friend (now deceased) who always corrected me when I referred to our democracy by saying we lived in a republic.

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A republic in which regular democratic elections take place, with the exception of Presidential elections and the electoral college.

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Unfortunately, she didn't live to see it, but I know this is regular Republican speak.

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Written at Oh-Dark-Early. You're lucky it's coherent. :-)

And yes I do know the GOP usage.

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Chortle!

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Yep! Totally out-of-control, belligerent children!

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Did the lone Democratic Senator who voted against the government funding measure happen to be Joe Manchin?

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Michael Bennet, CO

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Why did he vote that way?

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No funding for Ukraine

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Thanks for your info. Not surprised that Michael Bennet would take a stand.

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And he's quite a good orator too.

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Well said; “permanent pre-pubescents” perfectly describes Trump Party members and their leader, disgraced former President “Boo-Hoo! They’re picking on me!” Thanks for the post.

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Love pre-pubescents! Apologies to those who are truly in the age category.

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We need to vote like our lives depend on it, because it may. MAGAts need to be put out to pasture. And their leader needs to service time along with those insurrectionists sycophants in the House. Furthermore they all should be keep from ever holding public office due to their role in their effort to over turn the election.

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As we campaign against (I LOVE your description!) these "permanent pre-pubescents" of the T party (revived Tea Party?) here's my question: how can we translate these extraordinary discussions with our president and Xi Jinping, as well as "That economic strength (that) is standing behind President Joe Biden" into benefit stories that ordinary, non-scholar citizens could recognize as so important to our country and the future of our children and grandchildren.

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Couldn't be any simpler or clearer than that!

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Thank you for setting the record straight. President Biden has made significant progress on issues with the economy, the environment, and in talks with Xi Jinping.

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Anyone complaining about "Biden's age" should recognize his experience as a statesman. Years and years of experience are paying off in this administration. To bring China to the table is productive for the future.

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A slew of the people complaining are "concerned" liberals who will vote for him anyway but are grumpy that they don't get someone sufficiently "vibrant" on TV. Or they don't even feel this way themselves, but know people who do, and are therefore on the process of hand-wringing and imagining an alternative "vibrant" candidate who could capture the attention if their friends with short attention spans.

You know, the Incredible Generational Leader who has all the great qualities of the person you voted for, without the things you keep being told are the weaknesses that prevent everyone else from voting for them too! You know, the sort of person with 50 years' worth of experience, but who is only 45 years old! The wisdom of the oracle AND a dope skin care regimen! Is that too much to ask? There must be someone like that around here, where oh where could they ever have gotten to?

We live in a society that really sticks it to you for being "too" much of anything. Too young, too old. We need to accept people for what they bring to the table, rather than concern ourselves with perceptions upon perceptions.

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I can't help noticing that the people complaining about Biden's age -- and, worse, the ones who say he should step down -- have yet to come up with a plausible alternative who could win the White House in 2024. Sure, the Democrats have a deep bench in Congress and statehouses across the country, and some of them will be presidential contenders in 2028 and beyond, but getting from local or regional name recognition to national name recognition in a year or two just isn't possible. These people really need to STFU and get to work.

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It also undermines Biden’s run. And republicans cheer every time a democrat complains that Biden is too old. He may be old but he is smart, experienced, and has a boat load of compassion. Something we haven’t seen in a president in a long time.

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And he picks good advisers -- and listens to them. So many USians don't seem to realize that the presidency isn't a solo act.

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Amen to that! Not a solo act. And the U.S. presidency is not responsible for everything in the world.

(But, but, but Putin invaded Ukraine because Biden is a warmonger. It must also have been Biden who inspired Bush/Cheney to bring shock and awe to Iraq. Probably the “liberal” press covered it up, typical of “the enemy of the people.”)

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I posted this once, but it's worth repeating- a talk show commentator, whose name I can't remember, said, " I'd rather have an old man who needs another nap, than an old man who needs another lawyer." In his "old age" Biden has done more for this country than Trump has done in his whole life.

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Love it!

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Can Obama be President again?

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No, but why do you think that would be a good idea? Obama did pretty well with the hand he was dealt, but Biden is doing better.

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I agree 100%! I thought the question was who would be great if Joe Biden couldn't do it for whatever reason. Obama is amazing and could totally lead us in the direction I think we all would desire.

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I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t want to be ... but I feel confident that he enjoys standing up before a crowd and firing them up so that they’re ready to go!!!

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They just are hooked on “entertainment” and “star quality.” Puke. You nailed our irrelevant blather.

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Yep. They'd rather have someone who they think *looks* presidential than someone who actually *is* presidential.

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chump looked like an ignorant kid in the oval office or behind the presidential seal. Of course, Fox always cut and pasted to make the performing seal look and sound presidential. Rupert (and Peggy Noonan and Michael Deaver) helped make Ronnie look like an Academy Award winner. We have been flimflammed. Well, some of us.

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Michael Deaver. Did you ever read that book, ‘On Bended Knee’? Great expose on the fealty of the DC press corp to all things Reagan.

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Exactly. As an outsider I cannot see why President Biden's age features so often as a negative to rubbish him. You only have to look at what he has achieved for the vast majority of Americans - his decisions to look out for the least well off and maintain a helping hand. There are always some bludgers in society that just take, but there are many that such help will be instrumental in them helping themselves.

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I think the republicans criticize his age so much (and make up conspiracies about his son) because there isn’t anything else to criticize.

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T is a picture of youthful vigor at 77, and can give incomprehensible speeches without a single stutter or pause. Not sure which candidate he defeated in 2016, but he really remembers who deserves his vengeance.

Joe Manchin is 76, perfect for attracting the youth vote to No Labels.

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And, furthermore his policies are part of a governing administration, i.e. it is set up with people who can actually lead and follow through. There was not one single competent person during trump's WH occupation who could have fought themselves out of a wet paper bag, let alone perform the duties of their appointments.

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That is why I call it the 'Biden Team' FDR had Frances Perkins & a Team of smart macroeconomists.

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Well the ones who could have performed choked at the bat.

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In case we forgot the handling of COVID.

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Hey, ‘they’ complained about Obama wearing a tan suit. When there isn’t anything of substance to complain about, find anything and shout it.

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Actually, I think his adamant support of Israel without acknowledged concern for the years of repression suffered by Palestinians has been his biggest blunder, but Republicans can't fault that, because they support Israel (if not actual Jewish people) with equal ardor.

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Presidential politics is a bit like courtroom litigation before a jury, and a lot like a play in a theater; in all cases, it's not so much the absolute "truth" of what's presented as it is how convincing the presentation. Good candidates, like good trial lawyers or good actors, put across the case convincingly. Candidates, lawyers and actors who can't do this have a steeper hill to climb.

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Will, what do you do for a living? Your writing is so good?

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Will reminds me of one the WH staff in "West Wing" - best show ever.

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Hear Hear 👏!!!!!!!

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Being 71-years-old young myself, I agree ➡️"We live in a society that really sticks it to you for being "too" much of anything."⬅️ Also, all the "vibrant" candidates are rather busy being effective/successful governors, mayors, Senators, Representatives, state Attorneys General, state senators and representatives, etc. We need all of them there just like we need President Biden in the White House.

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I sent HCR's substack on Trump's fascism to a friend who was sure that Biden is in the early stages of Parkinson's, and she responded that she'd never support Trump, but I haven't responded to her response, because I think it erodes the public dialogue. What I usually say is that we are all mortal.

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Joanna Denis, statesman, wow it's been so long since I've heard that word. It does epitomize President Biden, thank you. And the word, diplomat, came to mind too. The choice is clear between statesman and violent tyrant.

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My foster mother was 93 when she died.

She would forget some things or repeat things, but when it came to certain things, like finances, she was sharp as a whip.

I loved just hanging out with her, playing cards and listening to her stories.

She taught me a lot about respect and being kind.

What's sad is that most of her family didn't see what they had with her until she was gone.

We have too many stigmas.

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BIDEN-HARRIS WINS

CREATING MORE JOBS

14 million jobs added

STRONGER ECONOMY

Strongest economic recovery in the G7 since the pandemic

U.S. MANUFACTURING

Bringing semiconductor manufacturing back to the U.S.

CANCELING STUDENT DEBT

Canceled $127 billion in student loan debt for nearly 3.6 million Americans

IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE

Passed the Bipartisan

Infrastructure Law

SUPPORTING VETERANS

PACT Act for veterans and their survivors

GUN SAFETY

Most significant gun safety law in decades

CLIMATE ACTION

Passed the Inflation Reduction Act, which takes historic climate action

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

Executive orders protecting reproductive rights

STRENGTHENED GLOBAL ALLIANCES

Strengthened U.S. alliances and partnerships around the world

LOWERING COSTS

Lowered prescription drug and health care costs

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Mary, thank-you for repeating your list. This should be a Democratic campaign poster. Seriously.

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I'd like to find a state-by-state list of Biden's infrastructure projects to arm myself with when someone disses Biden. Thanks for anyone in this group shedding light on these.

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Infrastructure projects galore in communities near me . . . it is nearly impossible to get anywhere in a timely fashion :) Each time I think it is safe to take a particular route - nope! But that is an acceptable price to pay for improvements!

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I posted a link above, but here it is again.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/investment-tracker/

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Post and repost over and over

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Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! I’m going to repeat this on repeat!

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In addition to Dr. Richardson's work Simon Rosenberg is doing another brilliant job at presenting the factual picture of the Biden Administration's work. For Example:

--GDP growth In The Third Quarter Was 4.9%

--This Month’s Jobs Report Exceeded Expectations, Again - Under Biden lowest unemployment rate since the 1960s, lowest uninsured rate ever

--New Report Shows Inflation Continues to Fall

--The Wealth of Americans Jumped 37% from 2020 to 2022

--Gas Prices Are Lower Than They Were A Year Ago - despite Russia and Saudi Arabia trying to raise gas prices, the price of gas keeps tumbling

--Murder and Violent Crimes Rates Came Down in 2022, and Continue to Fall in 2023

--American Has Experienced An Explosion of New Black and Hispanic Small Businesses

--Lots of New, Encouraging Data About Our Transition From Fossil Fuels to Cleaner Forms of Energy

When Voters Are Informed About What Biden Has Done, His Numbers Go Up - another in a long line of polls show that by informing voters of what Biden has done his approval goes way up.

Simon Rosenberg

Hopium Substack

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Plus the constant clarifications about the truth in polling...

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And the constant activism on upcoming elections and the results of elections across the Country. Rosenberg was instrumental in the Virginia wins.

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Biden is standing strong in support of Israel to deter anti-semitic governments from all out war. Netanyahu has not yet acknowledged that Israel may have a bargaining chip for release of hostages if he would stop future settlements.

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His settlements should have been stopped long ago. Hamas is not the only player with radical supporters. Seems we have a few who are no longer on the fringes ourselves. The radicals are driving us all toward destruction. Joe has his finger in the dyke.

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Agreed, but you might want to fix the spelling on the dike.

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

No, don't fix it! That's the most magnificent misspell I've seen in ages. A masterpiece, really. Would one "fix" The Mona Lisa?

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United States should condition aid to Israel on a settlement freeze. We are enabling, or being played. I am pro Israel, however, the settlements in the ultra right are ruining the state. We have to stop them.

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

Slaughter as settlement chip. Who knew?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/11/16/israeli-war-crimes-and-propaganda-follow-us-blueprint/

“Shrouding such mass death and destruction in secrecy is a remarkable achievement. When British playwright Harold Pinter was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 2005, in the midst of the Iraq War, he titled his Nobel speech “Art, Truth and Politics,” and used it to shine a light on this diabolical aspect of U.S. war-making.

After talking about the hundreds of thousands of killings in Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti, Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador, Chile and Nicaragua, Pinter asked: “Did they take place? And are they in all cases attributable to US foreign policy? The answer is yes, they did take place and they are attributable to American foreign policy,”

“But you wouldn’t know it,” he went on.”It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.”

But the wars and the killing go on, day after day, year after year, out of sight and out of mind for most Americans. Did you know that the United States and its allies have dropped more than 350,000 bombs and missiles on 9 countries since 2001 (including 14,000 in the current war on Gaza)? That’s an average of 44 airstrikes per day, day in, day out, for 22 years.”

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Seeing the slaughter in Gaza televised will hurt Biden. Many young people will refuse to vote for him.

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I see no actual evidence of this barring a fringe cohort that were unlikely voters anyway.

Nobody tell Tom, but according to all current data, the Israelis are still the more favored party in this conflict among the American public. By a LOT. Even among younger voters, at least as many support Israel as do not. And among older age groups, forget about it. Way more people favor money, weaponry, or both going to Israel than do not, especially among Independents. Last I checked, Biden supporting Israel was the *most* popular thing he was doing. The trendline of Democrats sympathizing with Israel over Palestinehas actually *reversed* since the war. And the voters - especially young voters - who are watching Gaza closely are likely to be more plugged-in, i.e. more likely to ALSO be aware of/passionate about climate change, gun control, crimminal justice reform, bodily autonomy, income inequality etc. Guess who they favor on these issues, and which of these are literally closer to home?

Face it, the drag on Biden's image from Gaza among likely voters comes from uncertainty as to his handling of a dangerous, disturbing situation, rather than the situation itself. In 12 months, this will likely be long over, and he will take credit for it being over, point out that his rival would never have allowed a single aid truck in, hey look over there gas prices are lower again! ...and it will all be at worst an uncomfortable distant thing in the minds of people in line at the polls regardless of age.

I might not be right, but I think we know that I am more likely right than not. When have American voters ever prioritized foreign lives over their own comfort? Or withheld votes based on destructive foreign policy?

Hell, my long-haired-hitchiker anti-Vietnam-campaigning Dad voted for Humphrey.

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Nov 17, 2023·edited Nov 17, 2023

Thank you for the link, Lisa. According to this new poll you just linked to (and remember, any ONE poll can be quite off, no matter how good the pollster):

32% say choose "actively support Israel," down from 41% after attacks but above 21% a decade ago

15% say "do not be involved," DOWN from 21% after attacks and 27% a decade ago

4% say "support Palestinians," statistically unchanged from 2% after attacks and a decade ago

36% say "act as mediator," up from 27% after attacks and similar to 39% a decade ago

So, over QUADRUPLE the number of people want some form of US involvement than do not, and only the smallest fringe actually actively chooses Palestinian support over support for Israel. The number of people who desire active support, even with erosion over the month, is notably higher than in recent history. All that has happened is the "mediate before shipping anything" people have returned to the position they have always held after an initial uptick in support for armaments.

Of COURSE most people now choose "ceasefire/negotiate" as the preferred option. Who with eyes and a heart wouldn't? But 1) the general public doesn't know the difference between humanitarian pause/total ceasefire, 2) even if they did were not asked the question, 3) what we want is not always attainable (even freaking Bernie Sanders has described a ceasefire as naive and impossible), and 4) there is no way of knowing how the people polled would perceive any upcoming government action, or punish/reward it at the ballot box.

We've gotta look at the full picture here.

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That’s the Democratic Party playbook; we can win any election by scaring enough voters about how bad the GOP is; and hey, young voters will come around…. maybe.

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Also promoting Biden's substantial achievements has proven to increase his favorability. Who would have guessed?

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Increased his favorability from what, 32% to 36%?

‘Substantial’ achievements are in the eye of the beholder. Team Blue thinks he’s the next best thing to FDR. Team Red thinks he’s the devil incarnate. Most people who look at policy through the lens of working people think, ‘Meh’.

We’ll see.

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Considering that young voters have turned out in increasingly notable numbers in the past 4 cycles straight, and consistently split 60/40 or above for Dems, I'd say that's less of a maybe and more of a proven formula for success at this point.

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The horse race stuff is humorous this far out. A lot can happen in a year.

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It all makes such good sense. Those destructive fools are like a fungus growing on a tree.

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Fungus on a tree serves a purpose in the scheme of things; Republicans ... not so much.

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I edited out "noxious" before fungus. Too squeamish: I should have left it in. (Squeamish? moi? I've just slaughtered a nest of baby cockroaches).

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🤮 ewwww

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The alternative is an even bigger ewwww.

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Agreed

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Xi Jinping & Biden actually met on the Bay Area Peninsula on the acres at the Filoli Estate. Roads near the Estate have been reopened this am.

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Nov 16, 2023·edited Nov 16, 2023

Yes, Patricia! This is what I took away from the letter today -- the progress Biden is making in so many spheres with Xi making his reasonable statements about getting along and agreements in some key areas. We're spending too much air, oxygen, fuel, money on the bad guys giving them the spotlight on a stage. Let's put the focus on the good guys -- "accentuate the positive and don't mess with Mr. Inbetween."

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I watched President Biden’s press conference after his meeting with China’s President Xi. Biden spoke of how long they had known each other... dating back to when both were Vice Presidents. And while he made the resulting understanding they have of each other a plus, he never mentioned what would happen if Trump were to win the 2024 election ... breaking that bond and injecting instead his particular brand of craziness into this key global relationship.

At the same time, none of the reporters asked how Biden explained the current dysfunction in the House to Xi... assuming Xi raised that subject in the context of saying democracy is not as effective as the system of government used in China.

There are so many things that will happen if the MAGA GOP is not banished to the political wilderness in 2024. I find myself losing sleep thinking about that possibility... that Trump could win... which at times it appears The New York Times would like to see happen.

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Trump is a malignant narcissist with a sprinkle of sociopath tendencies. What makes me insane with all the dysfunction coming from the ass end of Republicans are the voters who want him back. Our country is reaping the benefits of a wise man. We have people not voting for democracy based on the price of a bag of potato chips. Bigger picture here. People aren't protesting in the streets because they can't go to a Taylor Swift concert. Hate is the easiest emotion to tap. And that's all the Republicans have is hate. We have at 74 million people that will vote for that hate. All the while experiencing the benefits of the Democrats. Republicans protect property and themselves. Democrats protect people. Democrats have to stop beating the age drum. They can wheel Joe in White House and he still has my vote. Watch what they do, not what they say.

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