First. - This conflict in NOT complicated. That’s absurd. The Israelis want to live in peace. The Palestinians want the land now ruled by Israel. It’s that simple. It’s a war and the Palestinians will not agree to peace while they believe there is an ability to take all of Israel. The world is trying to create a solution the Palestinians…
First. - This conflict in NOT complicated. That’s absurd. The Israelis want to live in peace. The Palestinians want the land now ruled by Israel. It’s that simple. It’s a war and the Palestinians will not agree to peace while they believe there is an ability to take all of Israel. The world is trying to create a solution the Palestinians do not want, and then is blaming Israel for failing to make it happen. The “2 state solution” is a post 1967 invention offered by the west.
Second - The Nakba as a concept of unfair colonialist invasion is 100% propaganda revisionist one sided history. The British had ownership of the land from the Turks. Both were invading colonialists. They split it with the Jews and “indigenous Arabs”. Palestinians at that time were British subjects and included both Arabs & Jews. The coin of the area had both Hebrew & Arabic on it. There was a war between Jews and ALL the surrounding Arab countries. The Jews won what is now called Israel. Period. Gaza was taken by Egypt. The West Bank taken by Jordan. From 1948 to 1967 the 700,000 indigenous Arabs / now called Palestinians who were displaced by the war were “refugees” living in Egypt and Jordan. At the same time 900,000 Jews were expelled from ever Arab country. Centuries of Jewish life were extinguished in days. Those Semitic Jew refugees (ie brown people) ended up in Israel - a 60% majority of Israel’s are the same brownness as the Palestinians. Let’s drop the white colonialist lie already.
Now the Palestinians are hateful to every conceivable cultural similarity as the west. Egalitarianism or gay rights or freedom of speech or assemble or religion as anathema to Palestinian life. Why did Bethlehem go from 80% Christians living safely under Jewish control to 20% living scared under the Palestinians?
Third, it is impossible to be pro-Palestinian without being anti-Israel or anti-Jew - unless you are a Palestinian who is fighting for land you think is yours. Theres no rationale basis beyond ignorance, prejudice, or religious triumphalism (you want the world to convert to Islam even if the conversion comes by the sword) for any westerner to support Palestinians.
If you are a Palestinian I’d ask: over the past 75 years how has the fight been going? I see the propaganda map you use showing Israel slowly taking land. Why should they stop? It’s not your land unless you can secure your borders. That’s just the truth of human history. How’s the terrorist fight going? I know; you think it’s splendid cuz you slaughtered 1200 Jews in October. But Israel is about to make peace with the Saudis. They have good ties to Egypt., UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Jordan just let the Israel Air Force use Jordanian airspace to knock out Iranian missiles. Plus as a.reward for your brutal terrorism, the land Israel unilaterally gifted to you in 2005, Gaza, is now a literal wasteland 100% because of Palestinian stupidity and brutality in attacking the Jews.
Isn’t it time to try peace and negotiations. Why don’t you give back the hostages and ask for a peaceful resolution. Israel left Gaza without getting any assurances. But tried in good faith to give Gaza the ability to self rule. You guys blew it. If you wanna re-do on that concept you must give up violence as your method of gaining statehood. Otherwise I think the tea leaves will see a lot of pain in your future.
First. - This conflict in NOT complicated. That’s absurd. The Israelis want to live in peace. The Palestinians want the land now ruled by Israel. It’s that simple. It’s a war and the Palestinians will not agree to peace while they believe there is an ability to take all of Israel. The world is trying to create a solution the Palestinians do not want, and then is blaming Israel for failing to make it happen. The “2 state solution” is a post 1967 invention offered by the west.
Second - The Nakba as a concept of unfair colonialist invasion is 100% propaganda revisionist one sided history. The British had ownership of the land from the Turks. Both were invading colonialists. They split it with the Jews and “indigenous Arabs”. Palestinians at that time were British subjects and included both Arabs & Jews. The coin of the area had both Hebrew & Arabic on it. There was a war between Jews and ALL the surrounding Arab countries. The Jews won what is now called Israel. Period. Gaza was taken by Egypt. The West Bank taken by Jordan. From 1948 to 1967 the 700,000 indigenous Arabs / now called Palestinians who were displaced by the war were “refugees” living in Egypt and Jordan. At the same time 900,000 Jews were expelled from ever Arab country. Centuries of Jewish life were extinguished in days. Those Semitic Jew refugees (ie brown people) ended up in Israel - a 60% majority of Israel’s are the same brownness as the Palestinians. Let’s drop the white colonialist lie already.
Now the Palestinians are hateful to every conceivable cultural similarity as the west. Egalitarianism or gay rights or freedom of speech or assemble or religion as anathema to Palestinian life. Why did Bethlehem go from 80% Christians living safely under Jewish control to 20% living scared under the Palestinians?
Third, it is impossible to be pro-Palestinian without being anti-Israel or anti-Jew - unless you are a Palestinian who is fighting for land you think is yours. Theres no rationale basis beyond ignorance, prejudice, or religious triumphalism (you want the world to convert to Islam even if the conversion comes by the sword) for any westerner to support Palestinians.
If you are a Palestinian I’d ask: over the past 75 years how has the fight been going? I see the propaganda map you use showing Israel slowly taking land. Why should they stop? It’s not your land unless you can secure your borders. That’s just the truth of human history. How’s the terrorist fight going? I know; you think it’s splendid cuz you slaughtered 1200 Jews in October. But Israel is about to make peace with the Saudis. They have good ties to Egypt., UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Jordan just let the Israel Air Force use Jordanian airspace to knock out Iranian missiles. Plus as a.reward for your brutal terrorism, the land Israel unilaterally gifted to you in 2005, Gaza, is now a literal wasteland 100% because of Palestinian stupidity and brutality in attacking the Jews.
Isn’t it time to try peace and negotiations. Why don’t you give back the hostages and ask for a peaceful resolution. Israel left Gaza without getting any assurances. But tried in good faith to give Gaza the ability to self rule. You guys blew it. If you wanna re-do on that concept you must give up violence as your method of gaining statehood. Otherwise I think the tea leaves will see a lot of pain in your future.