What do Israelis have to do in the West Bank and in Gaza? It's not part of their country. The Israeli settlers are their illegally and should be leaving.
What do Israelis have to do in the West Bank and in Gaza? It's not part of their country. The Israeli settlers are their illegally and should be leaving.
Israelis haven't lived in Gaza in decades. Israel made Gaza "Judenrein"--Jew-free--by pulling every Jewish resident, business, and military base out of Gaza and giving the keys to Palestinians to run Gaza themselves. Palestinians said they wanted independence to govern as they saw fit, and Israel provided that. The result was Gazans elected Hamas as their legal, official government, and last October's massacre was the natural consequence of that.
West Bank and Gaza are part of Israel, which won both territories in the 1967 war. Israel has not declared formal sovereignty over either in hopes of making a deal for an independent Palestinian state, which the Gaza handover was designed to trial. And the largest part of West Bank IS open to Jewish settlement, per the Clinton accords, until such time a final peace treaty is negotiated.
Oh well, you're so right - whatever option do the poor Israelis have but to commit genocide on the Palestinians? Only because they created Hamas because Israel wanted to fight the PLO with them, who could have known they turn out to be so ungrateful? Just because the Palestinians are treated like concentration camp prisoners in their own country - who could hold it against the most moral army in the world in the most horribly victimised ЁЯШв country in the world?
You just have to listen to Israeli tv, to the speeches in the Knesset or watch some IDF Instas to get a pretty good idea what sort of people Israelis in their majority are.
I fully accept that Israel is a nation that was horribly traumatised in its history, and - in my opinion - it just like a person would, has a mental defect due to that trauma. But that doesn't entitle it to commit war crime after war crime after war crime (listen to ICJ presentations regarding the occupation of the Palestinian territories), behave in the most brutal, colonising way towards a country that it has taken all the land from. The West put after WWII all its ugly, stinking guilt into a huge bucket, flung it over the Middle East and said "your problem now"
Just like Jon Stewart said "Listen, Middle East, we didn't want to be drawn in all that drama that OUR actions caused - we just want your delicious oil!"
If the West lets get Israel away again and again and again, Putin and Xi Jinping have won. The world will not forget this and the first signs are there. One should not forget, that the West is in the minority on this issue.
Can't wait for the next episode of this show "Who is the US gonna elect - the criminal in Putin's pocket or the palliative care candidate candidate in Israel's pocket?"
The writers of our reality must to coked up to the eyeballs.
All those words to avoid answering a simple question. I'll restate it so you can try again:
Since you consider this genocide, what war plan would you have enacted to ensure Israel destroyed Hamas without injuring non-combatants in Gaza and therefore avoid the "genocide" you claim is happening?
You're very welcome, Kathy. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, all 2.2 million Gazans would have been turned into charcoal six months ago with thermobaric weapons and scraped into the Med. That 98 percent of the Gaza population remains alive is proof Israel is NOT committing genocide, and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fool or a Hamas tool.
You're missing once again the point, my friend, the question is "Will exterminating the entire Palestinians nation - as a large part of the Israeli government seems to suggest - will rid Israel of Hamas?" So far there are all indications that Hamas support has worldwide grown exponentially in the last few months, hence why it is quite clearly impossible for the IDF to successfully eliminate them. All that will happen in the long run is that the Israel will be regarded even more as a pariah as it already is.
But luckily that's not my problem - and that's enough of this b.s. now.
I see you dodged the question for the third time: How should Israel destroy Hamas without harming noncombatants in Gaza? Your refusal to answer means you have no alternative, making your "genocide" claim worthless.
Anyone who supports Hamas is a terrorist, which says a lot about you.
ensuring the safety and security of Jews is a fundamental mission for Israel, both within its borders and globally. Any Palestinian state that does not ensure its Jewish citizens would be counter to the mission of Israel. Jews living freely in Palestine is part of the Hamas charter.
What do Israelis have to do in the West Bank and in Gaza? It's not part of their country. The Israeli settlers are their illegally and should be leaving.
Israelis haven't lived in Gaza in decades. Israel made Gaza "Judenrein"--Jew-free--by pulling every Jewish resident, business, and military base out of Gaza and giving the keys to Palestinians to run Gaza themselves. Palestinians said they wanted independence to govern as they saw fit, and Israel provided that. The result was Gazans elected Hamas as their legal, official government, and last October's massacre was the natural consequence of that.
West Bank and Gaza are part of Israel, which won both territories in the 1967 war. Israel has not declared formal sovereignty over either in hopes of making a deal for an independent Palestinian state, which the Gaza handover was designed to trial. And the largest part of West Bank IS open to Jewish settlement, per the Clinton accords, until such time a final peace treaty is negotiated.
It's more complicated than you think.
Oh well, you're so right - whatever option do the poor Israelis have but to commit genocide on the Palestinians? Only because they created Hamas because Israel wanted to fight the PLO with them, who could have known they turn out to be so ungrateful? Just because the Palestinians are treated like concentration camp prisoners in their own country - who could hold it against the most moral army in the world in the most horribly victimised ЁЯШв country in the world?
You just have to listen to Israeli tv, to the speeches in the Knesset or watch some IDF Instas to get a pretty good idea what sort of people Israelis in their majority are.
I fully accept that Israel is a nation that was horribly traumatised in its history, and - in my opinion - it just like a person would, has a mental defect due to that trauma. But that doesn't entitle it to commit war crime after war crime after war crime (listen to ICJ presentations regarding the occupation of the Palestinian territories), behave in the most brutal, colonising way towards a country that it has taken all the land from. The West put after WWII all its ugly, stinking guilt into a huge bucket, flung it over the Middle East and said "your problem now"
Just like Jon Stewart said "Listen, Middle East, we didn't want to be drawn in all that drama that OUR actions caused - we just want your delicious oil!"
If the West lets get Israel away again and again and again, Putin and Xi Jinping have won. The world will not forget this and the first signs are there. One should not forget, that the West is in the minority on this issue.
Can't wait for the next episode of this show "Who is the US gonna elect - the criminal in Putin's pocket or the palliative care candidate candidate in Israel's pocket?"
The writers of our reality must to coked up to the eyeballs.
All those words to avoid answering a simple question. I'll restate it so you can try again:
Since you consider this genocide, what war plan would you have enacted to ensure Israel destroyed Hamas without injuring non-combatants in Gaza and therefore avoid the "genocide" you claim is happening?
It should be easy for you to answer, so go ahead.
Thanks for calling out the word "genocide", used so freely here.
You're very welcome, Kathy. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, all 2.2 million Gazans would have been turned into charcoal six months ago with thermobaric weapons and scraped into the Med. That 98 percent of the Gaza population remains alive is proof Israel is NOT committing genocide, and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fool or a Hamas tool.
Or do you believe Israelis should have just shut up and accepted the mass murders?
You're missing once again the point, my friend, the question is "Will exterminating the entire Palestinians nation - as a large part of the Israeli government seems to suggest - will rid Israel of Hamas?" So far there are all indications that Hamas support has worldwide grown exponentially in the last few months, hence why it is quite clearly impossible for the IDF to successfully eliminate them. All that will happen in the long run is that the Israel will be regarded even more as a pariah as it already is.
But luckily that's not my problem - and that's enough of this b.s. now.
I see you dodged the question for the third time: How should Israel destroy Hamas without harming noncombatants in Gaza? Your refusal to answer means you have no alternative, making your "genocide" claim worthless.
Anyone who supports Hamas is a terrorist, which says a lot about you.
Silly old have-been.
Yet still smarter than you.
Once again radicals are calling the shots, to the detriment of all.
ensuring the safety and security of Jews is a fundamental mission for Israel, both within its borders and globally. Any Palestinian state that does not ensure its Jewish citizens would be counter to the mission of Israel. Jews living freely in Palestine is part of the Hamas charter.