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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I have to say that watching and listening to William F. Buckley as a young child, I was fascinated by his enormous vocabulary, for which I understood nothing. My dad would watch his rhetoric but had great disdain for him. He was a “know-it-all”, an arrogant SOB who fueled Republicans.

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

I only saw him in my twenties when a few W.&L. class-mates suggested I watch Firing Live because I reminded them of Mr Buckley. Almost as bad as being told I was Holden Caulfield in the flesh. I finally read 'Catcher in the Rye' and watched Mr Buckley in my senior year of college. I did not know whether to thank these friends or whack them with a two-by-four. Caulfield was a self-centered brat and Buckley a drunken pedant -- pronounced pee-dant (rhyme with slant) 😉 -- who never seemed to get to his point so enamoured was he of his own virtuosity.

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KEM's avatar

Accurate summary! And, if he had a point and had gotten to it quickly, the flaws in his perspective would have been much more apparent...

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

Thank you, Kem, for indulging my latest rant. I always though Mr Buckley was over-rated, vastly over-rated.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

He truly loved hearing himself talk.

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

And he was so boring.

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Michael Heyerman's avatar

That last sentence is exactly how I remember Buckley!

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Ned McDoodle's avatar

Thanks for the memories, as said by that great mid-century American philosopher. Bob Hope. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmE7gVkK14I

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Joan Carol's avatar

One of the best things I've seen was a replay of a debate (I forget where and when -- sorry) between Buckley and James Baldwin. Buckley was annihilated and it was so satisfying! Such an affected idiotic snob.

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Joan Carol's avatar

Wow, thanks! I look forward to watching that again.

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bruce klassen's avatar

I don't know if you have watched this debate at the Cambridge Union, but I found it totally fascinating...otherworldly! Yet, like today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tek9h3a5wQ&ab_channel=AeonVideo

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I have watched it before and Baldwin took Buckley to the mat!

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bruce klassen's avatar

Marlene...Baldwin flung Buckley to hell....😇

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Really a pleasure to watch because Baldwin was so intelligent. Here we saw a brilliant gay Black man take down an arrogant SOB who was white. So fabulous!

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Gail Adams VA/FL's avatar

Thanks Bruce. Saving it to watch .

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KEM's avatar

Precisely.

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