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Mary Baine Campbell's avatar

Seems I woke up today as an incarnation of Debby Downer, but the actual proverb, which takes my side in this discussion, is “The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.”

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Chuck Lavazzi's avatar

At this point, I will settle for working with enemies of fascism.

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Mary Baine Campbell's avatar

Me too. So as Liz Cheney has never shown herself an enemy of fascism, I hope there isn't too much working with her. My energy is going in to getting rid of the filibuster, at long, merciful last.

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The Terrible Tailypo's avatar

You assert this several times, and I am curious why you are so convinced of this. The proverb 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' is from the Arthashastra, from the 4th century BCE https://www.worldhistory.org/Arthashastra/ although the original text is quite a bit wordier... you can find it here in Book 6: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Arthashastra/Book_VI -- what is the source of your claim that there is an even earlier proverb, stating that the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend?

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TPJ (MA)'s avatar

Why not two sayings instead of just one? Both have their merits. People who don't like old sayings can always make up their own. I do!

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Annie D Stratton's avatar

Common sense.

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Mary Baine Campbell's avatar

Hiya Terrible Tallypo, that's fascinating. I'm not an ancient historian (though I love ancient history and literatures!). I do teach medieval and Renaissance literature and am very interested in folk forms like proverbs, tales and jokes. I've only encountered the negative version (with proverbs you can usually find both--there was a medieval distinction between the "bonum" and "malum" significances)--maybe because it's been more popular in my lifetime of increasingly dispiriting politics! My father warned me as a young person always to remember that "the enemy of your enemy is not your friend."

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