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TCinLA's avatar

We do share the same objective - the maintenance of democracy, where we scrabble with each other and respect the results.

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Liz Ayer, Nyc/MA's avatar

Right the overarching goal is to save our democracy.

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Mary Baine Campbell's avatar

I would agree if I thought her plan was to save democracy. According to Dowd it is not, and never has been. Her piece is informative. I suggested people read it, not that they blame Lynn Cheney for the sins of her father.

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Chuck Lavazzi's avatar

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I have never regarded Maureen Down as an especially perceptive or deep thinker. Got back and read some of the drivel she wrote about the Clintons. Honestly, I don't know why people like her and Ross Douthat still have jobs at the NYT.

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Mary Baine Campbell's avatar

I agree. That's why I said it was "surprisingly" good. Not a deep thinker at all. I don't think she wants to be. What she is is someone who has been in DC watching these people for decades. She knows them and knows what they've said and done. That's why I pointed to her easily accessible column. Many pieces on her by deep types amount to the same takehome: leopards don't change their spots. I'm not moved by "fiery or "soaring" rhetoric, at least not normally: I study it professionally!

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Annie D Stratton's avatar

Oh, good, a link. To my surprise, NYT let me read it without dinking me to subscribe (I'm trying to cut down). Mary Baine Campbell, you are right about Doud's piece. Sad to see folks here doing what they love pointing fingers at others for doing: jumping to conclusions about something before taking the time to read and evaluate it. No, Doud's piece is not deep, nor does it need to be. Sometimes writers get so caught up in being "deep" that they bury the simple point at the core of things. Doud didn't do that. She laid it out plain and square. For crying out loud, folks, read it and let go of your intellectual purity.

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Terri Christy's avatar

Thanks!

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Cathy Mc. (MO)'s avatar

This, TPJ. I posted my comment before I saw yours. YES to having a democracy to bicker about.

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ScannyDo's avatar

Republicans won't listen to anyone on the left, not even Manchin, so even if she is a hypocrite and untrustworthy, she is telling the truth about the election and about Trump. Maybe she is like a sacrifice bunt for the GOP? Perhaps to save them or to advance a new runner---Stefanik?

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