I will never forget...no matter how they try to spin what really happened on that terrible day! It was a very sad day in our history and maybe worse than 9/11.
9/11 killed 3,000 people and destroyed two large buildings and others, but the entire country came together in support of democracy and freedom. 1/6 is at the heart of destroying that democracy.
Fox knows they are in deep sh*t, but have to continue to provide for their base. You know the line, "a lie keeps growing and growing until it's as plain as the nose on your face". They are hoping if they say it enough times, it will be believed and America will watch them (why does anyone watch them, I really don't understand!!)
Doubtful. I think we need the movie studios to bring back the two-minute news reel (circa WWII) before feature films - whether in the theater or streaming. We need to find a way to pierce the bubble.
I think that live coverage was on multiple stations including C-span. And MAGAs had a heads up. My neighbor, since moved, had a тАЬhouse guestтАЭ he claimed he hardly knew, working in the driveway preparing his beat up pickup truck with trump and confederate flags and a small string noose on the rack. I took pictures because he didn't remove them for days. I was freaked out but our HOA has no rule against flags on vehicles. But commented about my BLM sign in my window, comparing. Many stories about the next three months. I know there are people who are tired of politics and not reading or watching much, but they must know something. Or they are repubs and are just letting life happen. Just vote R.
Maybe that is why Republican Politicians lead the anti-vaxxing efforts and anti-masking efforts, they want all the witnesses of their slide into fascist Autocracy dead!
I couldnтАЩt agree more - with your first sentence. To wit: he is also not changing the minds of tens of millions of Trump supporters. He is merely strengthening a narrative they clutch to without reserve, and providing video documentation. This will be used, incredibly I might add, to continue to prop up AmericaтАЩs most powerful and despicable lie. Carlson is amplifying a view that will coax from willing martyrs a terroristic response at some point when the fuse has been lit by some other relatively insignificant action.
How this got from the government to the media this easily is a total shock to me. The comparison may be inapt and I apologize if it is. But, on the one hand the law allows lengthy stays of justice based on the most specious, absurd grounds (IтАЩm thinking at the moment of PenceтАЩs тАЬIтАЩll have it both waysтАЭ challenge in order not to testify). On the other hand, a government official can simply hand over raw American history unchecked by any rule to a single entity which is now probably the most corrupt media outlet of power America has ever been subjected to.
The legal system is fast becoming a dangerous joke for its inability to avoid twisting itself into knots allowing appeal after appeal after appeal. Justice delayed through too clever by half appeals to the nooks and crannies of the laws is justice denied.
I am reminded of Ernest WildeтАЩs play Salome grossly orgiastic and profane written in the depths of his libertinism being banned from Germany at the turn of the 20th century. When public demand for this spectacle became intense, the Kaiserin managed to get the authorities to evade the ban by the simple expedient of insisting that the Star of the Magi appear at the end of each performance, symbolizing the triumph of good over evil. Two hours of blood-soaked orgiastic wallowing was redeemed by a one minute appearance of the star. This is the kind of hypocrisy American law now excels in.
I have blamed and continue to blame Merrick Garland for his tortured waste of time at the beginning of his term, using valuable effort and resources to try to convince those whose ears are stopped to him that he really was an even-handed good guy who would apply the law equally to both sides. It was a cowardly failure. And now we are reaping the results as Trump promises to run if indicted. *Of course* he will. What does he have to lose. Rachel MaddieтАЩs utterly lame comparison of Trump to Spiro Agnew last night was a joke. These are far far more turbulent times - the zeitgeist is completely different.
Professor Cox RichardsonтАЩs piece seemed a bit overblown to me until I thought for two seconds. It is one of her darkest warnings yet, in a quiet but unmistakeable tone that she rarely uses. From her vast experience and knowledge, she sees a probability that is deeply unsettling. Best we listen.
Please do not apologize for stating honest and valuable concerns. I agree with everything you said. Particularly the parts about making a complete joke of our тАЬby the LawтАЭ rhetoric. Every lawyer in this country should be overly concerned with how their careers are viewed.
I am on the verge of leaving this тАЬlawlessтАЭ country as the hypocrisy is about to do me in. And America needs people like me. All of тАЬmeтАЩsтАЭ out there must start sharing their discontent. How dare a Tucker Carlson blatantly make a lie out of visual fact. I think a person should sue him for hurting all good Americans. How dare our legal teams allow this vulgar take over of truth.
Your comments leave no room for misunderstanding. :)
I'm Canadian, so have only a little skin in the game (my son is a prof at Carnegie Mellon and I worry about his welfare and even safety at times). Nonetheless, looking at it objectively I have increasingly had the feeling that America is deeply in need of reform - I had that thought at the very beginning of DJT's Presidency, as he crashed through norm after norm with spectacular ease. I began to think that this could not have happened out of the blue at the will of one man. The more I looked the more I felt that there are two kinds of Americans (forgive the over-simplification). There are those who rush into causes and conspiracies and take them as far as possible without regard to consequences known and unknown, as well as understanding that at some point they have zoomed past any point of logic. On the left, there are those who have what Sarah Kendzior has labelled accurately "Savior Syndrom" - first for Mueller, then for impeachment, then for Garland, now for Jack Smith. On the right there are any number of groups - MAGA itself, the absolutely incredible QAnon farce, and the long term belief in the lie that Trump won in 2020.
Then there are those Americans who are busy, preoccupied with their own cares, suffering, or just plain comfortable warming themselves under the shining light on the hill that is America. They have woken up somewhat now, but there remain millions who view political events as a somewhat amusing spectacle and something that will work itself out eventually.
But there are people like you who are reaching a point of no return with your outrage. Thank God - I think that a very small number of Americans relative to the whole saved America in 2020 and to a degree in 2022 by becoming activist. I don't know what you do but I'm sure America needs you to stay in the fight in restoring sensible and timely law to America.
I became fascinated by the subject of how the 2010 to 2020 (and now 2023) period happened in America. I was always your complacent neighbor! What could go wrong in such a country is the way that millions of my generation felt? I knew that there were terrible stories in American history - I majored in History, but I loved the country and visited it dozens of times. There is a superficial openness to Americans that makes one quite gratified to meet them and chat.
In any case, I began to study how the America of my imagining - 50s through 70s - had become such a shell of a country, and in the process lost so much of its swagger and confidence.
The fruit of my learning is in a SubStack called "Cancel the American Dream." It's a sort of chronological history - The Fifties through to the present (I'm currently in the Nineties). The articles I write are developing a thesis that America has, mostly by design, partly by historical sweep, and a little bit through sheer accident, conjured up the perfect storm. It is now being battered by it full force. Some of the problems are, in my opinion, irremediable. Social media is one. Racism - white vs black especially - is another.
I invite you to read it. (Sorry to hit you with a shameless self-plug, but I find the Americans who read really get it. The Canadians, most of whom are people I know, are doing Eric a favor :), and are only mildly interested with a few exceptions.
I would be interested in your critique and additional ideas.
Boy, is my blood boiling... please forgive my bark, but the DOJ and the Supreme Court are both just titles that are empty of integrity. Is this what we think of ourselves? Just empty suits pretending to be useful when we put up with the тАЬlowest of barsтАЭ for our own children to experience. From that angry nasty dominating DeSanity(FLA take a bow), to Ga.putting up with тАЬGrimaceтАЭ( green), to the тАЬSupreme Despicable CourtesanтАЭ pretending they are about тАЬThe LawтАЭ! I am beyond hope. Help me here.
Exactly. I had been to my massage and came home to the insurrectionist riot. It was awful and I still cannot look at the Capitol Building without remembering it.
Millions of us watched it live and unfiltered. It is forever etched in our memories.
I will never forget...no matter how they try to spin what really happened on that terrible day! It was a very sad day in our history and maybe worse than 9/11.
Worse because it was an inside job and most are still out there, training for 2024.
9/11 killed 3,000 people and destroyed two large buildings and others, but the entire country came together in support of democracy and freedom. 1/6 is at the heart of destroying that democracy.
Did the folks who can only get/watch FNC have access to the LIVE coverage on 1/6/2021?
I don't know but maybe they showed Tucker Carlson live "talking" them through what was happening and then showing select video clips?
Because, at no time is Fox interested in representing reality accurately.
Fox knows they are in deep sh*t, but have to continue to provide for their base. You know the line, "a lie keeps growing and growing until it's as plain as the nose on your face". They are hoping if they say it enough times, it will be believed and America will watch them (why does anyone watch them, I really don't understand!!)
Doubtful. I think we need the movie studios to bring back the two-minute news reel (circa WWII) before feature films - whether in the theater or streaming. We need to find a way to pierce the bubble.
I actually watched about 2 hours of Faux that day. They were as dismayed as CNN or MSNBC was. At least during the event.
Now, Faux is simply echoing what the MAGAs tell them, or telling the MAGAs what they want to hear, to keep their ratings up.
The problem is what Fox has done afterward. The Dominion suit may bring out the truth and the whole truth.
So Trump heard them saying how dismayed their were (that's his only viewing channel as I understand it). Wonder what he thought about that.
I think that live coverage was on multiple stations including C-span. And MAGAs had a heads up. My neighbor, since moved, had a тАЬhouse guestтАЭ he claimed he hardly knew, working in the driveway preparing his beat up pickup truck with trump and confederate flags and a small string noose on the rack. I took pictures because he didn't remove them for days. I was freaked out but our HOA has no rule against flags on vehicles. But commented about my BLM sign in my window, comparing. Many stories about the next three months. I know there are people who are tired of politics and not reading or watching much, but they must know something. Or they are repubs and are just letting life happen. Just vote R.
Maybe that is why Republican Politicians lead the anti-vaxxing efforts and anti-masking efforts, they want all the witnesses of their slide into fascist Autocracy dead!
I couldnтАЩt agree more - with your first sentence. To wit: he is also not changing the minds of tens of millions of Trump supporters. He is merely strengthening a narrative they clutch to without reserve, and providing video documentation. This will be used, incredibly I might add, to continue to prop up AmericaтАЩs most powerful and despicable lie. Carlson is amplifying a view that will coax from willing martyrs a terroristic response at some point when the fuse has been lit by some other relatively insignificant action.
How this got from the government to the media this easily is a total shock to me. The comparison may be inapt and I apologize if it is. But, on the one hand the law allows lengthy stays of justice based on the most specious, absurd grounds (IтАЩm thinking at the moment of PenceтАЩs тАЬIтАЩll have it both waysтАЭ challenge in order not to testify). On the other hand, a government official can simply hand over raw American history unchecked by any rule to a single entity which is now probably the most corrupt media outlet of power America has ever been subjected to.
The legal system is fast becoming a dangerous joke for its inability to avoid twisting itself into knots allowing appeal after appeal after appeal. Justice delayed through too clever by half appeals to the nooks and crannies of the laws is justice denied.
I am reminded of Ernest WildeтАЩs play Salome grossly orgiastic and profane written in the depths of his libertinism being banned from Germany at the turn of the 20th century. When public demand for this spectacle became intense, the Kaiserin managed to get the authorities to evade the ban by the simple expedient of insisting that the Star of the Magi appear at the end of each performance, symbolizing the triumph of good over evil. Two hours of blood-soaked orgiastic wallowing was redeemed by a one minute appearance of the star. This is the kind of hypocrisy American law now excels in.
I have blamed and continue to blame Merrick Garland for his tortured waste of time at the beginning of his term, using valuable effort and resources to try to convince those whose ears are stopped to him that he really was an even-handed good guy who would apply the law equally to both sides. It was a cowardly failure. And now we are reaping the results as Trump promises to run if indicted. *Of course* he will. What does he have to lose. Rachel MaddieтАЩs utterly lame comparison of Trump to Spiro Agnew last night was a joke. These are far far more turbulent times - the zeitgeist is completely different.
Professor Cox RichardsonтАЩs piece seemed a bit overblown to me until I thought for two seconds. It is one of her darkest warnings yet, in a quiet but unmistakeable tone that she rarely uses. From her vast experience and knowledge, she sees a probability that is deeply unsettling. Best we listen.
Apologize for length.
Please do not apologize for stating honest and valuable concerns. I agree with everything you said. Particularly the parts about making a complete joke of our тАЬby the LawтАЭ rhetoric. Every lawyer in this country should be overly concerned with how their careers are viewed.
I am on the verge of leaving this тАЬlawlessтАЭ country as the hypocrisy is about to do me in. And America needs people like me. All of тАЬmeтАЩsтАЭ out there must start sharing their discontent. How dare a Tucker Carlson blatantly make a lie out of visual fact. I think a person should sue him for hurting all good Americans. How dare our legal teams allow this vulgar take over of truth.
I am sickened!
Your comments leave no room for misunderstanding. :)
I'm Canadian, so have only a little skin in the game (my son is a prof at Carnegie Mellon and I worry about his welfare and even safety at times). Nonetheless, looking at it objectively I have increasingly had the feeling that America is deeply in need of reform - I had that thought at the very beginning of DJT's Presidency, as he crashed through norm after norm with spectacular ease. I began to think that this could not have happened out of the blue at the will of one man. The more I looked the more I felt that there are two kinds of Americans (forgive the over-simplification). There are those who rush into causes and conspiracies and take them as far as possible without regard to consequences known and unknown, as well as understanding that at some point they have zoomed past any point of logic. On the left, there are those who have what Sarah Kendzior has labelled accurately "Savior Syndrom" - first for Mueller, then for impeachment, then for Garland, now for Jack Smith. On the right there are any number of groups - MAGA itself, the absolutely incredible QAnon farce, and the long term belief in the lie that Trump won in 2020.
Then there are those Americans who are busy, preoccupied with their own cares, suffering, or just plain comfortable warming themselves under the shining light on the hill that is America. They have woken up somewhat now, but there remain millions who view political events as a somewhat amusing spectacle and something that will work itself out eventually.
But there are people like you who are reaching a point of no return with your outrage. Thank God - I think that a very small number of Americans relative to the whole saved America in 2020 and to a degree in 2022 by becoming activist. I don't know what you do but I'm sure America needs you to stay in the fight in restoring sensible and timely law to America.
I became fascinated by the subject of how the 2010 to 2020 (and now 2023) period happened in America. I was always your complacent neighbor! What could go wrong in such a country is the way that millions of my generation felt? I knew that there were terrible stories in American history - I majored in History, but I loved the country and visited it dozens of times. There is a superficial openness to Americans that makes one quite gratified to meet them and chat.
In any case, I began to study how the America of my imagining - 50s through 70s - had become such a shell of a country, and in the process lost so much of its swagger and confidence.
The fruit of my learning is in a SubStack called "Cancel the American Dream." It's a sort of chronological history - The Fifties through to the present (I'm currently in the Nineties). The articles I write are developing a thesis that America has, mostly by design, partly by historical sweep, and a little bit through sheer accident, conjured up the perfect storm. It is now being battered by it full force. Some of the problems are, in my opinion, irremediable. Social media is one. Racism - white vs black especially - is another.
I invite you to read it. (Sorry to hit you with a shameless self-plug, but I find the Americans who read really get it. The Canadians, most of whom are people I know, are doing Eric a favor :), and are only mildly interested with a few exceptions.
I would be interested in your critique and additional ideas.
Boy, is my blood boiling... please forgive my bark, but the DOJ and the Supreme Court are both just titles that are empty of integrity. Is this what we think of ourselves? Just empty suits pretending to be useful when we put up with the тАЬlowest of barsтАЭ for our own children to experience. From that angry nasty dominating DeSanity(FLA take a bow), to Ga.putting up with тАЬGrimaceтАЭ( green), to the тАЬSupreme Despicable CourtesanтАЭ pretending they are about тАЬThe LawтАЭ! I am beyond hope. Help me here.
Exactly. I had been to my massage and came home to the insurrectionist riot. It was awful and I still cannot look at the Capitol Building without remembering it.
Yes!!!