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How many women did he have to fuck in the Oval Office for you to see him for what he was? JFK is undefamable, he was such a shit.

He was the guy who ordered the overthrow of Diem that led to Diem's assassination. Lib'ruls who still believe in Camelot need brain transplants.

Graham Greene described Kennedy to a "T" when he described Alden Pyle, the main character of his novel "The Quiet American": "I never knew a man who had better motives for all the trouble he caused... impregnably armored by his good intentions and his ignorance."

The Kennedy Adoration Machine did everything it could to slime LBJ with Kennedy's responsibility. In my research for two books, I found that LBJ's problem with Vietnam was he was dragged to every escalation by the JFK New Frontiersmen he stupidly kept around - like the completely incompetent Strange McNamara who had no clue how to run a war - and delayed it till it became the wrong decision.

So far as Tonkin Gulf is concerned, you know dick shit about what you are talking about. I'm sorry to say that to someone I like (I really do like you, Daniel). I was there, the Admiral whose staff I was on was the opeational commander of the two destroyers. That was where my life was turned around 180 degrees 30 days later when I ran into my best friend from boot camp in an Olongapo bar; he had been the POIC of the Maddox's gun tower that night and got court martialed for refusing to open fire on grounds there were no targets. He told me the "Incident" was nothing like what it was portrayed (not by LBJ, by all the JFK appointees who wanted a war in Vietnam). In fact LBJ was the only guy on the planet who got Tonkin right - when he was first informed of the event, he said "those poor dumb sailors were probably shooting at flying fish." In 2006, a retired NSA analyst demonstrated that "the lights in the water" were the reflections of the moon and the lightning strikes of the storms in all quadrants, on the South Asian School of flying fish (about 4 million fish) that annually transit the Gulf of Tonkin during the first week of August.

Since we both live in LA, we ought to get together for coffee.

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JDinTX's avatar

Wow, from the horses mouth. Rare to find someone who looked out the window to see if it was raining instead of reporting what opposing voices said. Yes, I was a dumbass who thought McNamara was the smartest man in the room. Sort of like Enron, but I wasn’t fooled that time. Sorry for that weird digression…

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GJ Loft ME CA FL IL NE CT MI's avatar

And this is why I hope TFFGs isn't assassinated. History will be kind to him if he is.

Better he dies, drooling down his shirt in his soiled Depends.

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Marla's avatar

I fervently wish a natural death on him. Frankly, a martyr’s death is too good for the likes of him.

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