We have failed to hold more than just ex-Pres Trump accountable. Nixon was inappropriately pardoned for his Watergate crimes. Reagan/Bush Sr. were inappropriately excused for their Iran/Contra crimes. Bush Jr./Cheney were inappropriately excused for their Iraq war crimes. Hopefully we are finally breaking this pattern with Trump.
We have failed to hold more than just ex-Pres Trump accountable. Nixon was inappropriately pardoned for his Watergate crimes. Reagan/Bush Sr. were inappropriately excused for their Iran/Contra crimes. Bush Jr./Cheney were inappropriately excused for their Iraq war crimes. Hopefully we are finally breaking this pattern with Trump.
Agree. The three rivers that brought us here were making money, making war, and political lack of fortitude.
American citizens have mindless lionized the office of the military and the Presidency in thousands of ways, most induced by propaganda. Think flyovers, presentations of the colors, pledges of allegiance, Hails to the Chief ad nauseam. The result has been to inculcate Presidents with an aura of invincibility, begging for hubris to burrow its way into their souls, giving them a sense of almost papal infallibility and a will to use the military. I date this orgy of dialed up reverence to around the time of the Iran hostage crisis. In all likelihood, it seems that Reagan brokered a deal to have the hostages held until his first day of office (that one has the odor of Roger Stone), and spent his Presidency painting America in warm muted colors, to bring along an unsuspecting population.
People, desperate for succor from the scabs of Vietnam, jumped aboard, and America became a temple of the military and the Presidency. Unsurprisingly, Congress plunged out of favor (13% favorability) ratings and defaulted most significant decisions to the President. Equally unsurprising, American presidents ensnarled upon wars and threats of war. A document called Project for a New American Century (advocating almost casual world dominance through regime change attracted the the eyes of Bush II and the country began its descent into reckless, violent shows of hegemony.
My point is this. This indictment of Trump has an aura of virtue beginning to re-establish itself. Trump’s behavior, pre-Presidency, was tawdry, immoral and deeply offensive to good people. When he became President, it worsened by orders of magnitude.
Presidents should be the zenith of probity. If there is a desire in the American psyche to elevate the office to one of truly high standing, then electing people who ooze offensive personal characteristics is not the best way to go about accomplishing.
For Karen McDougal, E. Jean Carroll, Summer Zervos, Stephanie Clifford and all the honest contractors Trump stiffed along the way, this is a worthy indictment and trial.
I don’t care that is the “least of the charges@. I was offended when a *left* wing media reporter characterized it as a “nothing burger”., compared to Georgia and the DOJ.
For God’s sake America, get behind this in a full throated way. Run this rat ragged.
AMEN to all that. His arraignment will likely be muted, but I would surely like to see him doing the standard perp walk in handcuffs. I am still angry at his treatment of the steelworkers: for that alone, I would have him up on charges. There's no forgiving that.
You may be right about that. But I don't think so. NYC is not Washington: the police force is prepared, and the National Guard is probably going to be on standby. So any shenanigans those MAGATs try will be properly snuffed out, in short order. No worries there. Did you see the dwindling size of the crowds at his rallies? He couldn't even draw a decent audience in Waco. I say, bring it on, Repugnant Republicans. Let the s**t show begin. If the chart I saw on MSNBC tonight is correct, T**** is facing eight major legal problems. And most of them have irrefutable, incontrovertible evidence. Problem is, even if he's convicted, sentenced, even incarcerated, he can still be the candidate. Aye, there's the rub. If we can't disqualify him somehow, then we have to continue to make him look ridiculous and insane. That shouldn't be too hard; we've got plenty of clips of him that can be used against him, with proper editing, and appropriate background music.
Couldn’t agree more. He’s on his way out into the darkness of historical infamy. But his movement is coherent, engaged, and anxious to flex its muscle. This is one case where the inmates really have taken over the asylum. They don’t need Trump now.
Or you could flip the dice again and ask what would happen if Hillary had won in 2016. But I'm not sure where all this time travel think tank stuff really gets us.
We have failed to hold more than just ex-Pres Trump accountable. Nixon was inappropriately pardoned for his Watergate crimes. Reagan/Bush Sr. were inappropriately excused for their Iran/Contra crimes. Bush Jr./Cheney were inappropriately excused for their Iraq war crimes. Hopefully we are finally breaking this pattern with Trump.
Agree. The three rivers that brought us here were making money, making war, and political lack of fortitude.
American citizens have mindless lionized the office of the military and the Presidency in thousands of ways, most induced by propaganda. Think flyovers, presentations of the colors, pledges of allegiance, Hails to the Chief ad nauseam. The result has been to inculcate Presidents with an aura of invincibility, begging for hubris to burrow its way into their souls, giving them a sense of almost papal infallibility and a will to use the military. I date this orgy of dialed up reverence to around the time of the Iran hostage crisis. In all likelihood, it seems that Reagan brokered a deal to have the hostages held until his first day of office (that one has the odor of Roger Stone), and spent his Presidency painting America in warm muted colors, to bring along an unsuspecting population.
People, desperate for succor from the scabs of Vietnam, jumped aboard, and America became a temple of the military and the Presidency. Unsurprisingly, Congress plunged out of favor (13% favorability) ratings and defaulted most significant decisions to the President. Equally unsurprising, American presidents ensnarled upon wars and threats of war. A document called Project for a New American Century (advocating almost casual world dominance through regime change attracted the the eyes of Bush II and the country began its descent into reckless, violent shows of hegemony.
My point is this. This indictment of Trump has an aura of virtue beginning to re-establish itself. Trump’s behavior, pre-Presidency, was tawdry, immoral and deeply offensive to good people. When he became President, it worsened by orders of magnitude.
Presidents should be the zenith of probity. If there is a desire in the American psyche to elevate the office to one of truly high standing, then electing people who ooze offensive personal characteristics is not the best way to go about accomplishing.
For Karen McDougal, E. Jean Carroll, Summer Zervos, Stephanie Clifford and all the honest contractors Trump stiffed along the way, this is a worthy indictment and trial.
I don’t care that is the “least of the charges@. I was offended when a *left* wing media reporter characterized it as a “nothing burger”., compared to Georgia and the DOJ.
For God’s sake America, get behind this in a full throated way. Run this rat ragged.
AMEN to all that. His arraignment will likely be muted, but I would surely like to see him doing the standard perp walk in handcuffs. I am still angry at his treatment of the steelworkers: for that alone, I would have him up on charges. There's no forgiving that.
You may be right about that. But I don't think so. NYC is not Washington: the police force is prepared, and the National Guard is probably going to be on standby. So any shenanigans those MAGATs try will be properly snuffed out, in short order. No worries there. Did you see the dwindling size of the crowds at his rallies? He couldn't even draw a decent audience in Waco. I say, bring it on, Repugnant Republicans. Let the s**t show begin. If the chart I saw on MSNBC tonight is correct, T**** is facing eight major legal problems. And most of them have irrefutable, incontrovertible evidence. Problem is, even if he's convicted, sentenced, even incarcerated, he can still be the candidate. Aye, there's the rub. If we can't disqualify him somehow, then we have to continue to make him look ridiculous and insane. That shouldn't be too hard; we've got plenty of clips of him that can be used against him, with proper editing, and appropriate background music.
Couldn’t agree more. He’s on his way out into the darkness of historical infamy. But his movement is coherent, engaged, and anxious to flex its muscle. This is one case where the inmates really have taken over the asylum. They don’t need Trump now.
Very dangerous.
I agree with everything you say here. Nice summary!
So incredibly stated. Thank you.
Really good point. What would have happened if Obama had allowed prosecution of war criminals Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush?
Reva, the flip side of that of course is what would have happened if Trump had actually won in 2020, as the crazies actually believe happened?
Or you could flip the dice again and ask what would happen if Hillary had won in 2016. But I'm not sure where all this time travel think tank stuff really gets us.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/24Bs3BwkqKEOC2C7dMf2Pm?si=3AEdYmrgSleyU6XMF2jAdw
Nazis in THE USA from 1930 to present