John, many here have indicated they would prefer to dismiss you as a troll. You remind me in some ways of my son, when he gets on his debater's high horse and can't seem to get down off it, so I'm inclined to be a little more gentle.
Most of us are not here to glory in our debate skills, nor to push -- beyond what is obviously necessary -…
John, many here have indicated they would prefer to dismiss you as a troll. You remind me in some ways of my son, when he gets on his debater's high horse and can't seem to get down off it, so I'm inclined to be a little more gentle.
Most of us are not here to glory in our debate skills, nor to push -- beyond what is obviously necessary -- partisan political views. We ARE very partisan, but only because one of the Parties (from which "partisan" derives) has become an overt and ongoing threat to the US. Donald John Trump tried to execute a coup, to become "president for life," with the aid and assistance of the Republican Party as a whole. That party has given up on any political platform or policy, or even any pretense of such. It is a party with one clear goal: power. Power for the sake of power. They have aligned with autocracy, behind an unspeakably vulgar, pompous, sociopathic narcissist.
They have no plan for the country. They have a plan for themselves. Some are merely vulgar opportunists. Some are, like Ginni Thomas, religious fanatics caught up in End Times mythology. But they have no plan for the country.
Bernie, AOC, Biden, Hillary, and Liz Cheney ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE in this. As are all of the regulars who read this site, including myself.
And every last one of us has had at least one dark night in the last five years where we lay awake thinking that we would live to see the end of the United States.
I am very aware of the context. I watched with horror as Attorneys General from groups of opposing states lined up as the Supreme Court refused to hear the Texas lawsuit against Pennsylvania. We are already far along the slippery slope toward the wrecking of the Union among the States.
I don't think you give me credit for the work I've done to understand the situation. I have a strong reservation about your assessment: I think it is clear that, in their own minds, Trump and company were trying to pull off a counter-coup against what they perceived as Biden's techno-fascist stealing of the election. The evidence of Biden's theft of the Democratic nomination tends to render plausible their conclusion. If they honestly thought that the election was stolen, then other elements of your discussion come into question.
John, many here have indicated they would prefer to dismiss you as a troll. You remind me in some ways of my son, when he gets on his debater's high horse and can't seem to get down off it, so I'm inclined to be a little more gentle.
Most of us are not here to glory in our debate skills, nor to push -- beyond what is obviously necessary -- partisan political views. We ARE very partisan, but only because one of the Parties (from which "partisan" derives) has become an overt and ongoing threat to the US. Donald John Trump tried to execute a coup, to become "president for life," with the aid and assistance of the Republican Party as a whole. That party has given up on any political platform or policy, or even any pretense of such. It is a party with one clear goal: power. Power for the sake of power. They have aligned with autocracy, behind an unspeakably vulgar, pompous, sociopathic narcissist.
They have no plan for the country. They have a plan for themselves. Some are merely vulgar opportunists. Some are, like Ginni Thomas, religious fanatics caught up in End Times mythology. But they have no plan for the country.
Bernie, AOC, Biden, Hillary, and Liz Cheney ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE in this. As are all of the regulars who read this site, including myself.
And every last one of us has had at least one dark night in the last five years where we lay awake thinking that we would live to see the end of the United States.
So don't come here with your hypotheticals.
Wake up to the context. Please.
My last word on this subject.
I am very aware of the context. I watched with horror as Attorneys General from groups of opposing states lined up as the Supreme Court refused to hear the Texas lawsuit against Pennsylvania. We are already far along the slippery slope toward the wrecking of the Union among the States.
I don't think you give me credit for the work I've done to understand the situation. I have a strong reservation about your assessment: I think it is clear that, in their own minds, Trump and company were trying to pull off a counter-coup against what they perceived as Biden's techno-fascist stealing of the election. The evidence of Biden's theft of the Democratic nomination tends to render plausible their conclusion. If they honestly thought that the election was stolen, then other elements of your discussion come into question.
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