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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Rowshan, With each reading of your comment, I grow increasingly outraged that far too many, despite apparent threats nearly everywhere we look, don’t fully appreciate how precious basic liberal democracy is, how hard it is to cultivate, and how hard it is to sustain.

If we’re now in an era wherein liberal democracy and openness between nations is backsliding, then what’s largely going to rescue us is us and, perhaps, the Ukrainians, who, in large measure, are showing us the way. Accordingly, let’s give them everything they say they need short of us provoking a shooting war with a nuclear power.

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Dean Robertson's avatar

Barbara, what I'm afraid of is that we already have given them everything they say they need. We didn't give it willingly; it was cleverly taken from us. Now we are alarmed that our democracy is at risk. I didn't see much alarm before the grand theater and threat of nuclear war and a full-out war in Europe.

Americans are remarkable at not seeing what is unpleasant and might cause us any discomfort and, so, since Mr. Reagan, since Nixon's Southern Strategy, since ever single Republican since then, the proverbial handwriting has been on the wall. These folks are not even subtle or secretive about what they are doing. They don't have to be.

Oh, dear.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Dean, If one believes, as I do, that were Putin to annex Ukraine, he would expand his fascist mission, then short of putting American and NATO troops on the ground or in the air, in my view, we must 1) continue to resupply Ukraine with needed munitions and 2) provide the weaponry Ukraine requires to enforce its own no-fly zone.

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Dean Robertson's avatar

Barbara, I mostly agree and have reservations only about the no-fly zone which I think most people, clamoring for one, dom't understand--which you clearly do. Too many I've talked to, seem to have the idea that we declare a no-fly zone snd they don't fly. Whew

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Laura Thomas's avatar

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George E Dobbs's avatar

Barbara Jo Krieger:

Actually it is you BJK.

It is you and the millions like you who are showing us the way...

The only way is the same way we are loved by our FATHER in Heaven!

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

George, Though I appreciate your kinds words, I would note that I referenced the Ukrainians because, against all odds, they are resisting Putin’s efforts to humiliate them and bring them to their knees until they have no choice but to agree to be who he says they are.

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