You are correct about the house but in the Senate to convict we would need 67 votes (2/3) and right now we Dems good only 47 seats. By my count that means we need 20 R senators to actually get a conviction.
Nice idea but virtually impossible to actually happen. Add to that that even if it happened, JD Vance would become President, I wish …
You are correct about the house but in the Senate to convict we would need 67 votes (2/3) and right now we Dems good only 47 seats. By my count that means we need 20 R senators to actually get a conviction.
Nice idea but virtually impossible to actually happen. Add to that that even if it happened, JD Vance would become President, I wish we wouldn't waste our valuable time with things that won't do anything except rile up the masses.
This is why I have urged that impeachment is a waste of time.
But JD is not the cult leader. He wouldn't be able to carry it off and we might have a better chance at righting the ship. If you're hit by a gust of wind, your sailboat will heel (lean) way over. Release the main sheet (line holding in the sail), the sail will dump the wind and the boat will come upright again. Perhaps not the best metaphor but we are sheeted in too tightly and in danger of capsizing.
The problem with JD Vance is that he is owned pretty much lock stock and barrel by billionaire Peter Thiel and it doesn't matter what he can or can't do. Peter will dress him up and sell him like Lays potato chips.
Also as we almost all know, Trump is a bit of a wild card. He will tack at a hint of a change in the wind. Vance is way more predictable and controllable. That means he is LESS likely to just make his own decision on important issues. He will just ask Thiel which way to jump and how high
It should never be forgotten that Vance's daddy, Peter Thiel, is influenced by and allied with Curtis Yarvin, who is one creepy supervillain. The vilest fictional dystopias don't compare with Yarvin's actual designs.
Much of what comes out of Vance's mouth smells of the Yarvin stench.
Jane's suggestion may not help toward impeachment but that's an end game and there are many baby steps to stopping this madness and her suggestion is worthy in this regard. IMO
Jon, I often don't agree with your comments (not to say that I DISagree), but on the matter of impeachment chatter, I agree.
If someone wants to spend their own time daydreaming of Trump's impeachment, or raising unicorns, or having supernatural powers, they should be free to do so. But sharing these reveries in public is a waste of everyone's time, and a distraction from more useful discourse.
What would you suggest, then? I think that the town halls happening without the R’s could have an effect. I am old enough to remember that it was the Republican Senators who went to Nixon and said they would vote for his impeachment… They supported him until they didn’t. I think the Social Security issue may very well be a tipping point. Where do you see hope and potential fog stopping this - short of civil war?
I agree that Social Security might be a strong domestic issue, certainly if Musk actually tries to stop checks going out. My SSI deposit is due next week and my roommate and I are awaiting to see if they show up in the bank. I'll survive if it doesn't come but not easily.
I also think the Ukraine is.a potential issue as many R's do not agree with Trump's capitulation to Putin.
But it is still a "long game" that won't have a good resolution instantaneously and that is what a lot of people want. They want it to be over NOW and that isn't going to happen sadly. Once he got elected again, those horses were out of the corral.
You are correct about the house but in the Senate to convict we would need 67 votes (2/3) and right now we Dems good only 47 seats. By my count that means we need 20 R senators to actually get a conviction.
Nice idea but virtually impossible to actually happen. Add to that that even if it happened, JD Vance would become President, I wish we wouldn't waste our valuable time with things that won't do anything except rile up the masses.
This is why I have urged that impeachment is a waste of time.
But JD is not the cult leader. He wouldn't be able to carry it off and we might have a better chance at righting the ship. If you're hit by a gust of wind, your sailboat will heel (lean) way over. Release the main sheet (line holding in the sail), the sail will dump the wind and the boat will come upright again. Perhaps not the best metaphor but we are sheeted in too tightly and in danger of capsizing.
The problem with JD Vance is that he is owned pretty much lock stock and barrel by billionaire Peter Thiel and it doesn't matter what he can or can't do. Peter will dress him up and sell him like Lays potato chips.
Also as we almost all know, Trump is a bit of a wild card. He will tack at a hint of a change in the wind. Vance is way more predictable and controllable. That means he is LESS likely to just make his own decision on important issues. He will just ask Thiel which way to jump and how high
It should never be forgotten that Vance's daddy, Peter Thiel, is influenced by and allied with Curtis Yarvin, who is one creepy supervillain. The vilest fictional dystopias don't compare with Yarvin's actual designs.
Much of what comes out of Vance's mouth smells of the Yarvin stench.
Jane's suggestion may not help toward impeachment but that's an end game and there are many baby steps to stopping this madness and her suggestion is worthy in this regard. IMO
Jon, I often don't agree with your comments (not to say that I DISagree), but on the matter of impeachment chatter, I agree.
If someone wants to spend their own time daydreaming of Trump's impeachment, or raising unicorns, or having supernatural powers, they should be free to do so. But sharing these reveries in public is a waste of everyone's time, and a distraction from more useful discourse.
What would you suggest, then? I think that the town halls happening without the R’s could have an effect. I am old enough to remember that it was the Republican Senators who went to Nixon and said they would vote for his impeachment… They supported him until they didn’t. I think the Social Security issue may very well be a tipping point. Where do you see hope and potential fog stopping this - short of civil war?
I agree that Social Security might be a strong domestic issue, certainly if Musk actually tries to stop checks going out. My SSI deposit is due next week and my roommate and I are awaiting to see if they show up in the bank. I'll survive if it doesn't come but not easily.
I also think the Ukraine is.a potential issue as many R's do not agree with Trump's capitulation to Putin.
But it is still a "long game" that won't have a good resolution instantaneously and that is what a lot of people want. They want it to be over NOW and that isn't going to happen sadly. Once he got elected again, those horses were out of the corral.