A further demonstration that Fundamentalism is The Enemy, whether it masquerades as "christian," "muslim," "jewish," of "hindu." Terrible, sexual women are the "downfall" of poor "innocent" men, so they have to be controlled, dominated, and if necessary the 'uppity" ones must be killed for their trangressions against the godly men. They …
A further demonstration that Fundamentalism is The Enemy, whether it masquerades as "christian," "muslim," "jewish," of "hindu." Terrible, sexual women are the "downfall" of poor "innocent" men, so they have to be controlled, dominated, and if necessary the 'uppity" ones must be killed for their trangressions against the godly men. They all believe and spout the same bullshit, regardless of which religion they're "purifying."
A friend shared her experience with me some years back, after her abusive then husband put her in the ER (again). She asked to see a priest. When the priest arrived, hours later, he told her that 'this wouldn't have happened to you if you'd been a better wife to your husband." This was in the 1970s, I believe.
This attitude was prevelant in law enforcement at the start of my career. I recall an incident in the early 90's where a woman, who had a restraining order against her husband (who was prohibited from coming into her house, which was not the "family home"). She had an emergency plan set up with a friend (had her on speed dial) who would call 911 if she got a non-communicative call from her. Another deputy, a good friend of mine, and I responded. Her soon to be ex had broken into the house through a bathroom window and raped her. Per our policy, we requested the sergeant call out detectives. Sarge refused, saying that "a man cannot rape his wife". Well, we more than likely crossed the lines of insubordination, got detectives out there (detective said the same thing, by the way), and ended up doing most of the investigation ourselves. It culminated in the arrest of the ex (by us, not detectives as would usually happen) and culminated with a successful prosecution for Rape I. My fellow deputy ended his career as the Captain of our division, after a very successful stint as a detective and a patrol and detective sergeant. By the time we retired, that "philosophy" was grounds for a termination of one deputy. Times did change.
you're a diamond. I hope your influence is still being felt through the ranks. also I know words matter and I have often wanted to ask you if you have any particular thoughts on the words we choose to identify "peace" officers. who decides that they are called law enforcement officers?
Thank you. I like to think I have had positive influence in my agency. Our Sheriff and Chief Deputy (Undersheriff) both rode with me when they were explorer scouts, as did our future Patrol Captain. Over half of our current sergeants are former recruits of mine, and I spent 15 years teaching use of force department wide, so I like to think my influence extends still.
Regarding the naming of names... Peace Officer vs. Law Enforcement Officer is an interesting one, and I think that the opinions we have of ourselves is that we protect people, and keep the peace by enforcing laws. Just who is protected and what laws are enforced upon whom is not an area of common thought. (One of my favorite HCR Tuesday talks was on the history of the founding of law enforcement. It certainly made me ask myself some hard questions about my profession and my belief structure around that.
I wish I had listened to that one! I have learned about the power of words over my lifetime and just the frame of "peace keeping" over law enforcement leaves more room for the use of words to disarm? and truly keep the peace? I wonder if there is a way to know what day that talk was on.
I believe that there is (maybe in process) a catalouging of those talks by topics discussed. I can tell you it was during the summer, but not much beyond that.
HCR's talks are on her FaceBook and YouTube. And a moderator from the Unofficial Heather Cox Richardson Discussion group on Facebook has been transcribing HCR's talks. Within the past week, she posted a link to all of HCR's talks in 2020.
I ditto your kudos to Ally. Also, just this week I said the same thing to a friend, about the language we use to describe police and policing. I had sent her an article about the 'defund the police' issue, and said police shouldn't be called out for mental illness issues, rather we should have dedicated, trained mental health professionals at the ready, just as we have police for actual CRIMES. I said the choice of 'peace officer' and 'law enforcement' should mean just that, and we shouldn't task them with everything from serious crime to mental health crises.
Spot on, TC. Fundamentalist religious men who demand complete control over women, and who blame women for every perceived wrong, slight, or bad thing that comes their way.
A further demonstration that Fundamentalism is The Enemy, whether it masquerades as "christian," "muslim," "jewish," of "hindu." Terrible, sexual women are the "downfall" of poor "innocent" men, so they have to be controlled, dominated, and if necessary the 'uppity" ones must be killed for their trangressions against the godly men. They all believe and spout the same bullshit, regardless of which religion they're "purifying."
Fundamentalism is the tool. Privilege is the enemy.
White male privilege is the enemy. This is what we have seen personified in the trump era. Just a celebration of man child privileges run amuck.
A friend shared her experience with me some years back, after her abusive then husband put her in the ER (again). She asked to see a priest. When the priest arrived, hours later, he told her that 'this wouldn't have happened to you if you'd been a better wife to your husband." This was in the 1970s, I believe.
This attitude was prevelant in law enforcement at the start of my career. I recall an incident in the early 90's where a woman, who had a restraining order against her husband (who was prohibited from coming into her house, which was not the "family home"). She had an emergency plan set up with a friend (had her on speed dial) who would call 911 if she got a non-communicative call from her. Another deputy, a good friend of mine, and I responded. Her soon to be ex had broken into the house through a bathroom window and raped her. Per our policy, we requested the sergeant call out detectives. Sarge refused, saying that "a man cannot rape his wife". Well, we more than likely crossed the lines of insubordination, got detectives out there (detective said the same thing, by the way), and ended up doing most of the investigation ourselves. It culminated in the arrest of the ex (by us, not detectives as would usually happen) and culminated with a successful prosecution for Rape I. My fellow deputy ended his career as the Captain of our division, after a very successful stint as a detective and a patrol and detective sergeant. By the time we retired, that "philosophy" was grounds for a termination of one deputy. Times did change.
you're a diamond. I hope your influence is still being felt through the ranks. also I know words matter and I have often wanted to ask you if you have any particular thoughts on the words we choose to identify "peace" officers. who decides that they are called law enforcement officers?
Thank you. I like to think I have had positive influence in my agency. Our Sheriff and Chief Deputy (Undersheriff) both rode with me when they were explorer scouts, as did our future Patrol Captain. Over half of our current sergeants are former recruits of mine, and I spent 15 years teaching use of force department wide, so I like to think my influence extends still.
Regarding the naming of names... Peace Officer vs. Law Enforcement Officer is an interesting one, and I think that the opinions we have of ourselves is that we protect people, and keep the peace by enforcing laws. Just who is protected and what laws are enforced upon whom is not an area of common thought. (One of my favorite HCR Tuesday talks was on the history of the founding of law enforcement. It certainly made me ask myself some hard questions about my profession and my belief structure around that.
I wish I had listened to that one! I have learned about the power of words over my lifetime and just the frame of "peace keeping" over law enforcement leaves more room for the use of words to disarm? and truly keep the peace? I wonder if there is a way to know what day that talk was on.
I believe that there is (maybe in process) a catalouging of those talks by topics discussed. I can tell you it was during the summer, but not much beyond that.
HCR's talks are on her FaceBook and YouTube. And a moderator from the Unofficial Heather Cox Richardson Discussion group on Facebook has been transcribing HCR's talks. Within the past week, she posted a link to all of HCR's talks in 2020.
I found it! Thank you! 🙏🏼
I ditto your kudos to Ally. Also, just this week I said the same thing to a friend, about the language we use to describe police and policing. I had sent her an article about the 'defund the police' issue, and said police shouldn't be called out for mental illness issues, rather we should have dedicated, trained mental health professionals at the ready, just as we have police for actual CRIMES. I said the choice of 'peace officer' and 'law enforcement' should mean just that, and we shouldn't task them with everything from serious crime to mental health crises.
Modern slave patrols? Just a thought.
as you say, 100%, TPJ!
You served that friend well, and many other women, I suspect. Brava!
It's an oddity of all this, that the very men who are allegedly such superior beings, are so easily undermined if other humans are not crushed.
Spot on, TC. Fundamentalist religious men who demand complete control over women, and who blame women for every perceived wrong, slight, or bad thing that comes their way.