Lorri, many of us are in the same boat. Their fear let them be broken. We must work against their beliefs, but not against them. It is not easy, it is heartbreaking.
Lorri, many of us are in the same boat. Their fear let them be broken. We must work against their beliefs, but not against them. It is not easy, it is heartbreaking.
I have been richly enlightened, disturbingly enlightened, by the hundreds and hundreds of comments I have read in the past several months.
I read Heather from a sort of academic interest before I paid for a membership. I follow American current events closely because a) they affect Canada immensely and b) there is immense human interest in the drama. Heather’s daily synopses quickly became required reading because they are calm, measured, trustworthy and woven into the historical fabric.
But joining and hearing the voices of so many people who care so deeply about their country *and* the importance of shared, empathetic humanity has filled a massive hole for me. You all live “where the rubber hits the road”. This has been a near death experience for you. Simply from reading/synthesizing your comments, two ideas have grown in me and currently hold great force in my mind and heart.
The first is that of trauma. To me Trump and his coterie have been an abomination. It was difficult to comprehend that he could ever been elected President, and that once there, he wasn’t thrown out on his ear. I “knew” all the reasons (supporting media, the love some have for demagoguery, the immense and unresolved race question, the fact that some people delighted in him saying and doing the ugly things that they wished to say and do). But some part of me always could not believe the numbers. They should never have added up - Trump should simply have been some right-wing crank whose lack of gravitas would rule him out for office.
But you guys lived through it and suffered under it. It has affected you deeply and personally. Day after day I read comments that come from a place of fear that this could repeat itself in a minute. For many I see it a step further - that it *will* repeat itself.
I salute your courage in surviving and even thriving in this miasma - you guys are the fighters.
The second idea that insists on coming to the forefront of my mind is that this whole era is going to have an ugly, ugly ending. I have no doubt that right will triumph and the worst of the Right will eventually be vanquished - no pun intended there. Not after the last five months.
Trump’s fanatics are in the grip of a cult, a cult so powerful that many are willing to be martyred as proof of their loyalty. They have lost -a loss so I imagined and spectacular in its implications that the hole is too deep to crawl out of with dignity. Much of this is animated in the South and by supporters everywhere of the South’s Lost Cause. The openness with which people support voter suppression to “level the playing field” indicates to me that there is some kind of bloody trial by fire ahead. The Democrats will win again and again electorally - I have no doubt of that. They are governing brilliantly and giving evidence of having learned from past mistakes. They will ultimately pass HR-1. To not do so would be to repudiate in the deepest way those who got them into power. The filibuster is as good as gone in my view.
The midterms of 2022 will not be a repeat of 2010. A Democrat will be elected President in 2024. One look at the smoking hulk that is today’s Republican Party would not support any other conclusion. They are committed to doubling down on their loss.
But these wins are going to come at a fearsome cost. Political defeat is going to be taken personally and the wound will be scraped raw. And these people are heavily armed.
I think the violence will be uneven and sporadic, but terrible nonetheless.
The only hope is outreach. Democrats must govern with the deepest humanity and humility. Citizens must listen to those who oppose them. They are a group who live in great fear and that fear has metastasized into hatred.
As I type this, KarenDavis’ post is directly below me on the screen. “...The only thing you can do is quietly show the way.” A huge amen to that.
I too can only agree with this. I wake to read that a group of Republicans under McCarthy are traveling to the border to save us from an invasion. It revives all the anxiety and outrage of 16 to 20, the self-serving proposals to “save” our country, the total lack of humanity, the gross self-interest, and lack of “leadership”, an empty gesture. I would praise them if I felt they were truly going to “learn” something, but they are going with a mind-set, already closed to learning and will only see what they want to see. I said it once before, but it comes to mind again: “No Man is an Island”. Our world has “shrunk”, the pressures of population and politics increases and will continue to do so. We have to be willing to “open up” our minds. “Right” does not come in a package delivered by the welcome wagon lady. I am so grateful for this community. I think I’ll get off my soap-box and drink my coffee before I fall off the planet.
Mary, You absolutely described the tossing and turning of our socio-political lives, and. what's more, you ended with a phrase that made me laugh: 'before I fall off the planet.' Laugh, deeply!
Thank you for this analysis and hopeful outlook. I too, before subscribing, read Heather for many months, often at 4 in the morning as I searched for clues to the unfolding nightmare. For 2021 I decided to put at least a little of that much appreciated stimulus check where the hope lives. The community is an unexpected wonderful side effect. Thanks to all of you who aid our path forward.
Eric, In your comment, you stated that two themes have emerged, TRAUMA, being one, and UGLY ENDING, the second, in your effort to understand the United States of America' at this time. In my reading, two forces or tools of yours seemed at work in your analysis: THINKING/LEARNING/TEACHING/HISTORY, for one, and YOUR GUT, the second. Naturally, these tools combine.
The TRAUMA being TRUMP, is not a theme that I would argue with. Your UGLY ENDING wasn't really an ending. As I gather. it is an unavoidable piece of USA's puzzle as was the Civil War, our Civil War, which has not, yet, ended. You propose that we will have another violent chapter with race at its core. RACE is about POWER, so it is a battle for POWER using RACE as its weapon. Many Americans get this. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and people in the administration as well as in both political parties understand this.
We are very fortunate to have both Joe and Kamala as our leaders. I did not suspect such depth in them. James Clyburn, Stacy Abram, LeBron James, Beyonce, a less racist and seasoned youth ... the wisdom, strength, talent and determination behind our need to support one another and democracy is formidable.
When I look at the opposing side, the millions driven by hate and fear is horrifying. While this mass may seem rock stolid, we cannot know what help from the government and what listening can do. Look also at our numbers and demographics. Look at the leaders of the mob: Trump, Stone, Flynn, Cotton, Cruz, Hawley.... Eric, you prompted me to see the forest. Is there a violent and deadly chapter ahead of us?
We need to be fortunate, in that Biden has four healthy years ahead of him and that we will see a strong and united Democratic Party to persevere as never before in the recent past. We depend as well on the not so young Nancy Pelosi and the valiant young representatives behind her.
The next few years, are critical in being able to work through a lot of our DILEMMA without a violent battle.
Solid analysis. Thank you for providing it. Making predictions is a mug’s game, but one must stand behind them.
I do believe that Democrats are in for a period of sustained electoral success.
I do think there will be isolated violence. That does *not* mean it will be inconsequential. It could very well be extremely bloody, especially if people see no alternative to what they perceive as a bleak future without Trump.
However, there are always intervening events, totally unexpected, which can render predictions laughably wrong.
If I have to be wrong. I hope it’s on the second of my predictions.
Words to live by, thank you Eric. BTW, kudos to Canadians past who welcomed and sheltered fugitive slaves and abolitionists, and granted citizenship. Osborne Anderson, the only Black survivor among the John Brown raiders, lived in Chatham ON for nearly 10 years and wrote the only participant's account, A Voice From Harpers Ferry.
Trouble ahead, no doubt, but I am not confident of Democratic successes. Republicans control a majority of state governments, and actually gained some in the last election cycle. I live in upstate South Carolina, so maybe my everyday experiences check any optimism I feel. Everywhere I go I see Trump signs, Trump flags, “Pray for Our Country,” etc. The other day I was behind a pickup truck flying a big flag that said “F**K BIDEN.” So many people have an irrational hatred for Democrats. They have been convinced that Democrats hate the USA and are determined to destroy it. The points you make are valid, but I’m afraid you underestimate the extent to which our system of government favors minority rule.
Karl, It wasn't clear who you were addressing in your comment. Pointing to state governments was apt when considering our struggle for Democracy. The Democratic Party has failed in that as well as not addressing the needs and voices of the working-class. These are deep fault lines I don't think that I am optimistic but see strengths and possibilities to stem the neo-fascistic trend. I do not know what the next two or three years will bring. Do you deny that there have been several positive and consequential moves in past month?
No, I’m very happy with the new administration so far. I was referring to electoral successes in the future. Eric seems sure the Democrats will prevail. I hope he is right. But Republican legislatures will control the congressional redistricting in many states. They are already pushing dozens of voter suppression measures. The U.S. Supreme Court seems inclined to side with them. The country as a whole has moved radically to the right in the past 40 years. I’m hopeful that the pendulum is swinging back, but it’s far from clear to me.
Not at all. The events post-election show a revitalized America. I’m very optimistic for a more humanistic future for America. The Republicans (federally) seem dead serious about wresting the worst possible defeat from the jaws of their actual defeat.
I just fear that the Trump cult will not go down without providing fireworks of a most unpleasant kind. It’s that old saw about the cornered rat.
Trump's power is, in numerous ways, on the wane....he is scrambling and lost and may become like the cornered rat you describe. His followers will react with more immediate violence. They have many, many guns.
I have relatives who own some of them. I try to give money to the organizations who are working for gun control. Everything seems to be such a long, long struggle.....
Maybe I shouldn't introduce such matters to the community, but if you look up Change.org and Eskdalemuir, you'll find a petition signed so far by 19 000 opposing the setting up (it has already happened, but they're now seeking planning permission) of two .50 caliber high-velocity shooting ranges in one of the quietest valleys in southern Scotland.
Unfortunately, the matter's urgent because the planning authorities will examine the application soon and last objections are tomorrow.
These gun ranges will in effect sandwich between them the oldest and one of the most important Buddhist monasteries in the West, which, apart from its religious, cultural and peace-bringing function, is the main tourist attraction in this part of southern Scotland.
The Scotsman newspaper headline:
Buddhists up in arms as military-grade shooting range sets up near monastery
The deep peace of Buddhists living at a world-famous monastery in the south west of Scotland has been shattered by gunfire from a military-grade shooting range which has set up nearby.
The article states that the landowner wishing to change the land use designation of one of these sites is in negotiations
with USAF Special Forces to use the range for training, as well as planning the world long-distance shooting competition here if planning permission is approved.
In the Middle Ages there were 5 great monasteries near the border in southern Scotland, all burned down again and again by invading armies form England and again and again rebuilt. Like so many monasteries in Tibet, which this monastery's founders were forced to flee in 1959.
Now the Christian monasteries that prayed for Scotland, for peace and for the souls of Scotland's defenders, are all ruins and the one monastic establishment set up in this lovely, remote border valley is under threat from big gun men.
Perhaps there's a powerful dislike of Buddhists and peaceniks is at work here (though a son of the former abbot was a Royal Naval officer). I can't help suspecting NRA proselytism. All this against a background of tensions between English and Scottish nationalists that could in time affect the border...
Quite apart from the threat to a valley and a monastery I've frequented over four decades, I am absolutely unable to see any possible justification for the use by civilians of such weapons.
Am I paranoid if -- after events like seeing all those men with big, big guns in Michigan state Capitol -- I don't feel quite safe making this announcement?
Thank you for putting into words what so many of us living this nightmare feel. There is hope now that Joe Biden is President that if anyone can heal this fractured country in this moment, he and his administration can. He is "quietly showing the way". However, the fact remains there are millions of heavily-armed, angry/fearful individuals who continue to voraciously consume the hate-speak and conspiracy theories pushed by those who want to see our democracy fail. This is what keeps me up at night.
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric or want to understand how it is happening to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.
That place name (and many others in the US come out of the mist at me. When we travelled, we never went far off the beaten path - big cities for baseball and Myrtle Beach to escape the hellish weather in Ontario in March.
I so regret that I did not enlighten myself by visiting your geographic and historic wonders. Doh!
Eric O'Donnell, following HCR and the conversations that follow her postings, I sometimes have difficulty in believing that I’m seeing what I’m seeing.
Your long, deeply felt message is a case in point.
Thanks for the reassurance. For that I thank everyone here.
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.
Lorri, many of us are in the same boat. Their fear let them be broken. We must work against their beliefs, but not against them. It is not easy, it is heartbreaking.
This is very wise.
I have been richly enlightened, disturbingly enlightened, by the hundreds and hundreds of comments I have read in the past several months.
I read Heather from a sort of academic interest before I paid for a membership. I follow American current events closely because a) they affect Canada immensely and b) there is immense human interest in the drama. Heather’s daily synopses quickly became required reading because they are calm, measured, trustworthy and woven into the historical fabric.
But joining and hearing the voices of so many people who care so deeply about their country *and* the importance of shared, empathetic humanity has filled a massive hole for me. You all live “where the rubber hits the road”. This has been a near death experience for you. Simply from reading/synthesizing your comments, two ideas have grown in me and currently hold great force in my mind and heart.
The first is that of trauma. To me Trump and his coterie have been an abomination. It was difficult to comprehend that he could ever been elected President, and that once there, he wasn’t thrown out on his ear. I “knew” all the reasons (supporting media, the love some have for demagoguery, the immense and unresolved race question, the fact that some people delighted in him saying and doing the ugly things that they wished to say and do). But some part of me always could not believe the numbers. They should never have added up - Trump should simply have been some right-wing crank whose lack of gravitas would rule him out for office.
But you guys lived through it and suffered under it. It has affected you deeply and personally. Day after day I read comments that come from a place of fear that this could repeat itself in a minute. For many I see it a step further - that it *will* repeat itself.
I salute your courage in surviving and even thriving in this miasma - you guys are the fighters.
The second idea that insists on coming to the forefront of my mind is that this whole era is going to have an ugly, ugly ending. I have no doubt that right will triumph and the worst of the Right will eventually be vanquished - no pun intended there. Not after the last five months.
Trump’s fanatics are in the grip of a cult, a cult so powerful that many are willing to be martyred as proof of their loyalty. They have lost -a loss so I imagined and spectacular in its implications that the hole is too deep to crawl out of with dignity. Much of this is animated in the South and by supporters everywhere of the South’s Lost Cause. The openness with which people support voter suppression to “level the playing field” indicates to me that there is some kind of bloody trial by fire ahead. The Democrats will win again and again electorally - I have no doubt of that. They are governing brilliantly and giving evidence of having learned from past mistakes. They will ultimately pass HR-1. To not do so would be to repudiate in the deepest way those who got them into power. The filibuster is as good as gone in my view.
The midterms of 2022 will not be a repeat of 2010. A Democrat will be elected President in 2024. One look at the smoking hulk that is today’s Republican Party would not support any other conclusion. They are committed to doubling down on their loss.
But these wins are going to come at a fearsome cost. Political defeat is going to be taken personally and the wound will be scraped raw. And these people are heavily armed.
I think the violence will be uneven and sporadic, but terrible nonetheless.
The only hope is outreach. Democrats must govern with the deepest humanity and humility. Citizens must listen to those who oppose them. They are a group who live in great fear and that fear has metastasized into hatred.
As I type this, KarenDavis’ post is directly below me on the screen. “...The only thing you can do is quietly show the way.” A huge amen to that.
I too can only agree with this. I wake to read that a group of Republicans under McCarthy are traveling to the border to save us from an invasion. It revives all the anxiety and outrage of 16 to 20, the self-serving proposals to “save” our country, the total lack of humanity, the gross self-interest, and lack of “leadership”, an empty gesture. I would praise them if I felt they were truly going to “learn” something, but they are going with a mind-set, already closed to learning and will only see what they want to see. I said it once before, but it comes to mind again: “No Man is an Island”. Our world has “shrunk”, the pressures of population and politics increases and will continue to do so. We have to be willing to “open up” our minds. “Right” does not come in a package delivered by the welcome wagon lady. I am so grateful for this community. I think I’ll get off my soap-box and drink my coffee before I fall off the planet.
Mary, You absolutely described the tossing and turning of our socio-political lives, and. what's more, you ended with a phrase that made me laugh: 'before I fall off the planet.' Laugh, deeply!
Yes, Fern, really good to laugh!!! When I am too depressed by the news I watch old Carol Burnett shows, or Tracey Ullman, to shake up the neurons.
Thank you, Mary, for those neurological recommendations!
Yes we all should do whatever it takes to have at least one good belly laugh per day.
Absolutely!! We must hold on to our senses of humor :-)
Perhaps they will read Green Eggs and Ham to them. Making a mockery of our government seems to be the only thing they are capable of.
Thank you for this analysis and hopeful outlook. I too, before subscribing, read Heather for many months, often at 4 in the morning as I searched for clues to the unfolding nightmare. For 2021 I decided to put at least a little of that much appreciated stimulus check where the hope lives. The community is an unexpected wonderful side effect. Thanks to all of you who aid our path forward.
Eric, In your comment, you stated that two themes have emerged, TRAUMA, being one, and UGLY ENDING, the second, in your effort to understand the United States of America' at this time. In my reading, two forces or tools of yours seemed at work in your analysis: THINKING/LEARNING/TEACHING/HISTORY, for one, and YOUR GUT, the second. Naturally, these tools combine.
The TRAUMA being TRUMP, is not a theme that I would argue with. Your UGLY ENDING wasn't really an ending. As I gather. it is an unavoidable piece of USA's puzzle as was the Civil War, our Civil War, which has not, yet, ended. You propose that we will have another violent chapter with race at its core. RACE is about POWER, so it is a battle for POWER using RACE as its weapon. Many Americans get this. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and people in the administration as well as in both political parties understand this.
We are very fortunate to have both Joe and Kamala as our leaders. I did not suspect such depth in them. James Clyburn, Stacy Abram, LeBron James, Beyonce, a less racist and seasoned youth ... the wisdom, strength, talent and determination behind our need to support one another and democracy is formidable.
When I look at the opposing side, the millions driven by hate and fear is horrifying. While this mass may seem rock stolid, we cannot know what help from the government and what listening can do. Look also at our numbers and demographics. Look at the leaders of the mob: Trump, Stone, Flynn, Cotton, Cruz, Hawley.... Eric, you prompted me to see the forest. Is there a violent and deadly chapter ahead of us?
We need to be fortunate, in that Biden has four healthy years ahead of him and that we will see a strong and united Democratic Party to persevere as never before in the recent past. We depend as well on the not so young Nancy Pelosi and the valiant young representatives behind her.
The next few years, are critical in being able to work through a lot of our DILEMMA without a violent battle.
Solid analysis. Thank you for providing it. Making predictions is a mug’s game, but one must stand behind them.
I do believe that Democrats are in for a period of sustained electoral success.
I do think there will be isolated violence. That does *not* mean it will be inconsequential. It could very well be extremely bloody, especially if people see no alternative to what they perceive as a bleak future without Trump.
However, there are always intervening events, totally unexpected, which can render predictions laughably wrong.
If I have to be wrong. I hope it’s on the second of my predictions.
I share that hope, Eric.....
"the deepest humanity and humility"
Words to live by, thank you Eric. BTW, kudos to Canadians past who welcomed and sheltered fugitive slaves and abolitionists, and granted citizenship. Osborne Anderson, the only Black survivor among the John Brown raiders, lived in Chatham ON for nearly 10 years and wrote the only participant's account, A Voice From Harpers Ferry.
Trouble ahead, no doubt, but I am not confident of Democratic successes. Republicans control a majority of state governments, and actually gained some in the last election cycle. I live in upstate South Carolina, so maybe my everyday experiences check any optimism I feel. Everywhere I go I see Trump signs, Trump flags, “Pray for Our Country,” etc. The other day I was behind a pickup truck flying a big flag that said “F**K BIDEN.” So many people have an irrational hatred for Democrats. They have been convinced that Democrats hate the USA and are determined to destroy it. The points you make are valid, but I’m afraid you underestimate the extent to which our system of government favors minority rule.
Karl, It wasn't clear who you were addressing in your comment. Pointing to state governments was apt when considering our struggle for Democracy. The Democratic Party has failed in that as well as not addressing the needs and voices of the working-class. These are deep fault lines I don't think that I am optimistic but see strengths and possibilities to stem the neo-fascistic trend. I do not know what the next two or three years will bring. Do you deny that there have been several positive and consequential moves in past month?
No, I’m very happy with the new administration so far. I was referring to electoral successes in the future. Eric seems sure the Democrats will prevail. I hope he is right. But Republican legislatures will control the congressional redistricting in many states. They are already pushing dozens of voter suppression measures. The U.S. Supreme Court seems inclined to side with them. The country as a whole has moved radically to the right in the past 40 years. I’m hopeful that the pendulum is swinging back, but it’s far from clear to me.
Not at all. The events post-election show a revitalized America. I’m very optimistic for a more humanistic future for America. The Republicans (federally) seem dead serious about wresting the worst possible defeat from the jaws of their actual defeat.
I just fear that the Trump cult will not go down without providing fireworks of a most unpleasant kind. It’s that old saw about the cornered rat.
Trump's power is, in numerous ways, on the wane....he is scrambling and lost and may become like the cornered rat you describe. His followers will react with more immediate violence. They have many, many guns.
I have relatives who own some of them. I try to give money to the organizations who are working for gun control. Everything seems to be such a long, long struggle.....
Maybe I shouldn't introduce such matters to the community, but if you look up Change.org and Eskdalemuir, you'll find a petition signed so far by 19 000 opposing the setting up (it has already happened, but they're now seeking planning permission) of two .50 caliber high-velocity shooting ranges in one of the quietest valleys in southern Scotland.
Unfortunately, the matter's urgent because the planning authorities will examine the application soon and last objections are tomorrow.
These gun ranges will in effect sandwich between them the oldest and one of the most important Buddhist monasteries in the West, which, apart from its religious, cultural and peace-bringing function, is the main tourist attraction in this part of southern Scotland.
The Scotsman newspaper headline:
Buddhists up in arms as military-grade shooting range sets up near monastery
The deep peace of Buddhists living at a world-famous monastery in the south west of Scotland has been shattered by gunfire from a military-grade shooting range which has set up nearby.
The article states that the landowner wishing to change the land use designation of one of these sites is in negotiations
with USAF Special Forces to use the range for training, as well as planning the world long-distance shooting competition here if planning permission is approved.
In the Middle Ages there were 5 great monasteries near the border in southern Scotland, all burned down again and again by invading armies form England and again and again rebuilt. Like so many monasteries in Tibet, which this monastery's founders were forced to flee in 1959.
Now the Christian monasteries that prayed for Scotland, for peace and for the souls of Scotland's defenders, are all ruins and the one monastic establishment set up in this lovely, remote border valley is under threat from big gun men.
Perhaps there's a powerful dislike of Buddhists and peaceniks is at work here (though a son of the former abbot was a Royal Naval officer). I can't help suspecting NRA proselytism. All this against a background of tensions between English and Scottish nationalists that could in time affect the border...
Quite apart from the threat to a valley and a monastery I've frequented over four decades, I am absolutely unable to see any possible justification for the use by civilians of such weapons.
Am I paranoid if -- after events like seeing all those men with big, big guns in Michigan state Capitol -- I don't feel quite safe making this announcement?
THESE GUN-MAD PEOPLE ARE A PUBLIC MENACE.
"Snatching defeat from the jaws of defeat"
Eric, I like the old saying that you just made up.
Thank you. :)
😆
Oops sorry. I didn’t realize you were addressing Karl when when I write the post that began “Not at all”...
I’ll step out of the way now, red of face. :)
Thank you for putting into words what so many of us living this nightmare feel. There is hope now that Joe Biden is President that if anyone can heal this fractured country in this moment, he and his administration can. He is "quietly showing the way". However, the fact remains there are millions of heavily-armed, angry/fearful individuals who continue to voraciously consume the hate-speak and conspiracy theories pushed by those who want to see our democracy fail. This is what keeps me up at night.
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric or want to understand how it is happening to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.
an Eric O'Donnell fan
So appreciated! You join a very limited group (outside of family), I must hasten to inform you. :)
May I drive through VA again - an incredibly beautiful state.
But being in Vancouver, it may not happen.
Thank you, Lynell. :)
Another member of the Eric O'Donnell Fan Club. Shall I send dues to Lynell?
Re Virginia, try to visit Harpers Ferry. It is stupendous alike in natural and human history.
I’ll never forget being there in Harper’s Ferry @ July 4th 2011.
That place name (and many others in the US come out of the mist at me. When we travelled, we never went far off the beaten path - big cities for baseball and Myrtle Beach to escape the hellish weather in Ontario in March.
I so regret that I did not enlighten myself by visiting your geographic and historic wonders. Doh!
Maybe yet, however.
But what's more important (and American) than baseball!
Well...hockey and the Toronto Maple Leafs actually.
I could go on at severe, numbing length about both, but will spare you. :)
Alas our poor Red Wings. And Lions and Tigers, Oh, My!
Cogent and articulate to the point of a febrile reaction by the reader, well done.
Eric O'Donnell, following HCR and the conversations that follow her postings, I sometimes have difficulty in believing that I’m seeing what I’m seeing.
Your long, deeply felt message is a case in point.
Thanks for the reassurance. For that I thank everyone here.
Lynne 1 min ago
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.
Yes, it was excellent
Thank you, Lynne...will do.
Dear Cathy, yes, we are in that same boat. It's just that they are in a different boat, and the seas are pretty choppy. Thank you, you speak true.
I would encourage anyone who has “lost” family members to conspiracy theory rhetoric to watch an excellent documentary on Netflix called “Social Dilemma” which describes how people are sucked into these groups.