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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

YES! Where are the Clintons, Bush, Biden, Harris, Obama????

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Bruce Sellers (Georgia, USA)'s avatar

Yesterday, I noted to a friend who was asking the same thing that there has seemingly always been this unspoken "code" amongst ex-Presidents that once they are out of office they refrain from any and all interference in succeeding administrations. The glaring exception to this, of course, is the current interloper in the White House, who has never avoided any opportunity to open his big yap. However, it would seem to me that the situation right now demands "all hands on deck" in defending our democracy, so any such "codes", or "gentlemen's agreements", should be put by the wayside.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

I agree. I understand the traditional 'code' but, as you say, what's happening today is not traditional and is definitely endangering our country. My only hope is that the formers are silently gathering and preparing their own "Project 2025" to destroy this regime.

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Kathy Clark's avatar

James Carville, from Louisiana, says we should roll over and play dead and let the Regime dig itself a ditch. But how to recover and how long to shovel all that dirt back in?

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Dale Rowett's avatar

To paraphrase Ellen Glasgow, тАЬThe only difference between a ditch and a grave are the dimensions.тАЭ

Carville is older than the dirt removed from a ditch. He was once a brilliant strategist, but his strategies worked in a world that is very different from the one we live in now.

If Donald's handlers are allowed to wreak havoc at the pace they are currently keeping, humanity will not survive long enough to repair the damage.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

I agree. Carville's idea may be workable, but we can't wait any longer. We've waited 9 years too long all ready.

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Bryan Sean McKown's avatar

The "Python" is wrong on his one. Pythons just keep squeezing. The Nation is stressed out.

You can almost feel the widespread anxiety. Anxiety breeds misperceptions then mis-reporting then more confusion. All that leads to PANIC as the nation witnessed yesterday at the Dallas TX, National Cheerleaders gathering. A "loud noise " turned into a "loud pop" which morphed into "pop, pop, pop" which triggered a police & ambulance overreaction from a "fight"

Do not Play Dead.

Like Rachel Maddow taught me ... go to a valid LOCAL news source. The Dallas Morning News:

"What we know about incident at the NCA cheer competition at Kay Bailey Hutchinson"

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Michele's avatar

Byran, you can actually feel the anxiety and read about it. On Nextdoor yesterday, some poor soul worried about Medicare and a mess physically was calling for people to join her in a protest at the state capitol downtown..Salem, Oregon. Often I see wingnuts there.

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Bryan Sean McKown's avatar

Thank you Michele.

Yesterday, I filed a Freedom of Information Request (FOIA) on the Social Security Administration to dig into SSA 's purported "employee reductions" & "plans".

I will Litigate if necessary.

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Michele's avatar

Kudos, Brian. Please keep us posted.

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Michele's avatar

James Carville can eat dirt. I can't even listen to him. And the hubris....

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SR B's avatar

Carville is wealthy. A lot of people canтАЩt afford to just roll over.

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Barbara Mullen's avatar

This is a all hands on deck moment. I am disappointed beyond belief that the former Presidents and VP Harris, and Sec. Clinton are MIA.

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laura's avatar

Whenever I see someone mention, "Where are the past Dem Presidents?" I wonder how devastating this moment is to them. They were all civil servants who dedicated their lives to strengthening our country. And we elect a mobster conman who told us who he was for a decade as he built enough power to destroy our country. Why is it on them to fix our disastrous mess if we chose it? I understand their silence as a reasonable reaction to OUR absolute rejection of all their work, vision, and morality.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

It is not on them to fix this mess. But it would be nice to know they are in favor of fixing it. Evil is allowed to flourish when good people stay silent.

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Michele's avatar

I believe Obama has spoken out. Frankly, short of some special ops, I am not sure exactly what can be done.

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Barbara Mullen's avatar

They are the least of my worries. Every one of them are multi-millionaires. We elected?! No "we" did not.

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becky estill's avatar

Doing what? Howling into the void like the rest of us?

The Continuing Resolution (CR) to extend federal spending and avert a government shutdown ends March 14, 2025.

I suspect (hope!) Dems are waiting for the upcoming budget shit show in order to get more of the public on board. In this country, most people don't react until it affects them personally.

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DebbieM (OH)'s avatar

There are some - Jamie Raskin, AOC, Bernie Sanders, etc. - who are speaking out. The formers could join them if for nothing else to show they are against what trump is doing. After all, it is we the people who have to vote them out or protest them out or revolt them out. It would be good to know who all supports us.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Yes! Bernie is always the one I want for a leader. He was treated shamefully by the Democratic party which did all it could to stop him from becoming our president. A populist president, truly looking out for the people and the planet. Another ginormous error that we will never stop paying for.

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Tom's avatar

Bernie was treated shamefully by the Dems? You do realize he is not a Democrat? And when he was losing, he tried to force a rule changeтАФin the middle of the primariesтАФto benefit his candidacy? The party he disdains treated him shamelessly? And he then sat out the Clinton campaign acting angry and disaffected?

Bernie, who has never passed a significant piece of legislation he sponsored is to me a perfect example of why activists should not be elected to office.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Yes, I do realize that he is an Independent. I don't care about party affiliation--I focus on humanity, character, and heart. He is the only one I've seen in the sea of selfishness and ambition that is our 2 party system in decades. Carter was the last.

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Michele's avatar

Tom, personally, I have never liked Bernie, but do like some of his ideas. I would have voted for him had he been the candidate. And had HRC won, we would not be in the mess. It was a dire enough situation in 2016 especially with the Supreme Court that people should have held their noses.

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Maureen Moeller's avatar

Hillary was more qualified. Period. However, in retrospect I believe Bernie may have been able to overcome the suddenly emboldened misogynistic crowd rejecting Hillary. She did win the popular vote.

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Michele's avatar

becky, some of them are being affected personally including some of those who voted for death star.

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Sebastian's avatar

Indeed! Where are they??? We need them to speak.

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