Hmm… the story about your friend reminded me of my moment of epiphany when I was about 12. Being raised Catholic by a very religious Catholic mother, I had been attending an all-girls Catholic school ran by Maryknoll sisters who indoctrinated students about humility and compassion, yet lived a luxurious lifestyle AND discriminated again…
Hmm… the story about your friend reminded me of my moment of epiphany when I was about 12. Being raised Catholic by a very religious Catholic mother, I had been attending an all-girls Catholic school ran by Maryknoll sisters who indoctrinated students about humility and compassion, yet lived a luxurious lifestyle AND discriminated against those of us who, not as wealthy as their favorite pupils, couldn’t contribute regularly to their repetitive fundraising causes. I thought they were Capitalist Christians—yes, an oxymoron, but an accurate description of their agendas. And how can we forget the genocidal conquests that were carried out in the “New World” under the guise of evangelization by order of the Catholic rulers of Spain? Six centuries later, a similar genocide is being fostered by contemporary Catholic rulers who haven’t changed one bit since the Middle Ages and are now vowing to make a dime by allying themselves with righteous politicians. Shameful!!!
Rose. CC=Capitalist Christians & Catholic Church (or am I repeating myself?) Francis, who preached poverty, was saintified, while, after his death, two of his principal followers were harshly treated for espousing poverty. Later one could purchase indulgences forgiving you for future sins, as the new St. Peter’s was being financed.
Witzil doing this in Martin Luther’s parish prmpted Luther to post the 95 theses and establish the Protestant church. (Soon thereafterLther married a former nun)
Ahhh… those indulgences! I posted something about them elsewhere, earlier today. Technically, those who could (can?) afford them supposedly skip purgatory. No difference in death than in life, where our prisons are filled with those who can’t afford decent legal representation. I don’t believe in the Christian representation of hell, but I hope there is a karma, or a final justice system, that disburses accountability and due punishment to those who have earned it. At the top of my list of nominees: tfg
Also, on the subject of nuns, celibacy of Catholic priests and nuns is mostly a myth. I’ve visited several convents that had tunnels connecting to monasteries; buried within their walls were numerous fetuses—hmmm… were they aborted? The horror if hypocricy!
I am not sure of the celibacy issues but the concept of marriage of priests, nuns, popes, within the Catholic Church being forbidden early on except for the “marriage” to Jesus, insured all wealth, gold and power stayed within the Church and not frittered away in bloodline inheritances.
Michael Celibacy of priests was initiated in the 12th century. Popes and cardinals were clearly excluded. If you want a racy read, read the section on Renaissance Popes in Barbara Tuchman’s book THE MARCH OF FOLLY. This includes the Trojan horse, the Brits in the American colonies, and Vietnam.
Her Renaissance popes would be in an X-rated movie rating. Bastard sons and 11-year-old cardinals.
Hmm… the story about your friend reminded me of my moment of epiphany when I was about 12. Being raised Catholic by a very religious Catholic mother, I had been attending an all-girls Catholic school ran by Maryknoll sisters who indoctrinated students about humility and compassion, yet lived a luxurious lifestyle AND discriminated against those of us who, not as wealthy as their favorite pupils, couldn’t contribute regularly to their repetitive fundraising causes. I thought they were Capitalist Christians—yes, an oxymoron, but an accurate description of their agendas. And how can we forget the genocidal conquests that were carried out in the “New World” under the guise of evangelization by order of the Catholic rulers of Spain? Six centuries later, a similar genocide is being fostered by contemporary Catholic rulers who haven’t changed one bit since the Middle Ages and are now vowing to make a dime by allying themselves with righteous politicians. Shameful!!!
Rose. CC=Capitalist Christians & Catholic Church (or am I repeating myself?) Francis, who preached poverty, was saintified, while, after his death, two of his principal followers were harshly treated for espousing poverty. Later one could purchase indulgences forgiving you for future sins, as the new St. Peter’s was being financed.
Witzil doing this in Martin Luther’s parish prmpted Luther to post the 95 theses and establish the Protestant church. (Soon thereafterLther married a former nun)
Ahhh… those indulgences! I posted something about them elsewhere, earlier today. Technically, those who could (can?) afford them supposedly skip purgatory. No difference in death than in life, where our prisons are filled with those who can’t afford decent legal representation. I don’t believe in the Christian representation of hell, but I hope there is a karma, or a final justice system, that disburses accountability and due punishment to those who have earned it. At the top of my list of nominees: tfg
Rose My indulgences include milk shakes and St Louis spare ribs, but, then, I am not Catholic.
LOL! That’s a much tastier (and more palatable) indulgence, for sure!
Also, on the subject of nuns, celibacy of Catholic priests and nuns is mostly a myth. I’ve visited several convents that had tunnels connecting to monasteries; buried within their walls were numerous fetuses—hmmm… were they aborted? The horror if hypocricy!
I am not sure of the celibacy issues but the concept of marriage of priests, nuns, popes, within the Catholic Church being forbidden early on except for the “marriage” to Jesus, insured all wealth, gold and power stayed within the Church and not frittered away in bloodline inheritances.
Michael Celibacy of priests was initiated in the 12th century. Popes and cardinals were clearly excluded. If you want a racy read, read the section on Renaissance Popes in Barbara Tuchman’s book THE MARCH OF FOLLY. This includes the Trojan horse, the Brits in the American colonies, and Vietnam.
Her Renaissance popes would be in an X-rated movie rating. Bastard sons and 11-year-old cardinals.