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The American Catholic bishops are anti-American. Before every election I get a communication telling me how to vote and asking for money. Not knowing how the Catholic bishops got my name and address and with the Declaration of Independence in mind, every year I write in the blanks that America has separation of Church and State. Then I stamp and mail it to PA, which is where it comes from. Republicans and Radicals of all “religious” stripes need to be reminded that the Founding Fathers would be unsurprised, but not pleased, by their behavior. It’s anti-American.

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Ten years ago, Kevin Cullen of the Boston Globe wrote a column re: Cardinal O'Malley and his hypocrisy in boycotting a Boston College ceremony at which Ireland's prime minister was to receive an honorary degree and give the commencement speech (the prime minister had filed legislation allowing abortion to save the life of the mother). From his note responding to my thanking him for it:

"I'm done with them.

I will spiritually and financially support good priests and nuns.

But I'm done with the institutional church.

The Cardinal did me a favor by making me finally make a stand.

Feck them.

Judgmental, smug, arrogant, self righteous.

I'm done with them."

He closed with his father's deathbed quote, in which he referred to bishops as "a shower of arseholes".

I've never seen a more eloquent description.

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James, as of the '60s, when I was still taking Catechism classes--and I have no reason to think things have changed--the church still maintained a platonic vision of creation as a hierarchical structure. If memory serves, we had the triune God at the top, followed successively by the Blessed Virgin, saints and angels in their stratified ranks, the Pope, cardinals and bishops, priests, (maybe civil authorities in there somewhere under priests?) parents, and last and least, children. That last place for children was emphasized with the assertion that we, as children, had no right to question the higher levels of authority above us. I don't recall any discussion of unborn babies' place in all of this, perhaps because the obvious implication of sex was to be avoided. Or perhaps my memory is faulty. In any case, according to this paradigm, unborn babies should be at the bottom, but somehow they've been elevated to somewhere above parents. Call me cynical, but it seemed to me when I first noticed this that this elevation approximately arose in the wake of the pedophilia scandal. Again, memory is faulty, so there's always that.

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I follow a person on Facebook who has reported religious men who have been arrested for sexual crimes against children every day since December 2022 ....every single day ! How disgusting is that ! Yet repugnants states are banning drag shows as they are the groomers !! Where does it end ??

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I remember back in the old days, shilling for political issues or candidates would cost a church its tax exemption. Not anymore.

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That is a shame and should still be happening!

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Do you know WHY that stopped?

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Don't forget how the same Bishops rode Obama into the ground for the ACA, because of its inclusions of women's health. Let's expose these smug old guys with antedeluvian biases in their cassocks!

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My cousins that are Catholic quit going to mass when the priest began talking about supporting "tfg". That happened in our other area Christian churches too!

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Unfortunately, 80% of white evangelicals voted for Trump. Both times. If the percentage decent human beings among white evangelicals were as high as it is among Catholics (excluding American bishops of course, below which it’s hard to go), Trump would have been defeated.

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Republicans supported by the religious right clearly don’t believe in the separation of Church and State. The US Supreme Court seems to be following suit by requiring public funds to be used for one parochial school in New England as well as allowing businesses and individuals to discriminate on the basis of religion. Look next for the religious right, followed by the US Supreme Court, to determine that there is no such prohibition as the separation of church and state since it is based on the first clause in the bill of rights, i.e the First Amendment, which states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” Such a narrow interpretation flies in the face of its intent and historical understanding.,

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What is the word for turning a phrase so that it's new meaning is the opposite of the original? Parsing is the one that comes to mind, but there are others.

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The Catholic church, as well as all of the money-grubbing Evangelicals, should have had their tax-exempt status rescinded years ago. If that happened, we wouldn't be in this mess!

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Our moral compass is spinning as it searches for a North Star. We have truly entered the world of upside down when the word of Jesus Christ does not equate with social justice and “Fuck You” is considered acceptable speech in the halls of Congress.

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What has Jesus Christ to do with conduct when in Congress? And are nonbelievers unacceptable there? What are you saying?

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Your comment gave me a thought: why do we have a chaplains in the House and Senate? Seems to me there should be no connecton to any religion in the halls of Congress. If separation of church and state is not complete, then there should be rabbis, imams, et alii to guarantee equal representation.

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MANKIND has reached the Point OF Being "Under The BARREL !!

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Does this mean the catholic church does not want women to be equal to men ?? Same bullshit! Same bigotry still ! There should be separation between church and state for obvious reasons!! I'm sure these catholic and Christian national people wouldn't mind paying the taxes on their churches!

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Of course the catholic church doesn't want women to be equal-as exemplified by their absolute REFUSAL to allow women priests.

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