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Once again, you put this incredible news together like no one else manages to do. While the pundits and experts I’ve listened to today have been good, none lay it out as compellingly and clearly as you have done. Why I’m here. Thank you.

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💯 This is always the first thing I read in the morning to get Heather’s insight on these appalling times in which we live. Not sure if it’s the coffee or HCR that makes me better about the craziness. Probably both 😀

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I read her WHILE coffee is brewing, because she's always clear enough I don’t need the caffeine to understand it. Then, frequently, later in the day when the news has me completely frazzled, like HCR I take my kayak out to recover.

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And I read Heather while having my morning cappuccino.

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I'm still sipping on my espresso macchiato.

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That's quite a compliment you gave HCR!

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LOL. Thank you. I didn't know you had a column, "Dave's Brooklyn Style Espresso". My favorite summertime morning ritual is to make my Peet's Italian Roast cappuccino, get my laptop, and read Heather and Joyce Vance (and sometimes Timothy Snyder) on the back patio, with my beautiful garden smiling at me.

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That's Dave's Brooklyn Style Espresso Jernt. Substack clipped off that last word. And in fact, I never signed up to write a substack. They signed me up, probably hoping that I'd do it. I've encountered others who've had the same experience. But since they kept taking me with "Write's Dave's Substack," I decided I'd make it sound a bit more interesting, even if I wasn't going to write anything here. So far I have about seven subscribers.

And, yeah, I drink my espresso while I'm reading HCR, Robert Hubbell, Joyce Vance, Thom Hartmann, Jennifer Rubin, and the comics. HCR was the first. I highly recommend Hubbell. And Hartmann often has important perspectives I don't get elsewhere.

I do write, but all over the place, so I don't think it would work in a substack. For ex: https://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/The-home-forum/2020/0805/heeding-her-invitation-six-decades-later

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Why I’m here, too. 👏🏼

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Me too Avery & this digital Community has demonstrated the sum is greater than the parts. <

Note, HCR's Paragraph 1, Jack Smith has filed a "National Security" indictment with granular specificty, a speaking indictmenmt with photos.

The national security boxes stacked up on center stage of the MAL Ballroom tells any juror instantly DJT had a Co-conspirator. That named Co-defendant with Naval experience had the physical ability to carry out the intentional overt acts as instructed by the Perp.

Thank you HCR thank this Community, thank you very much Jack Smith & Team. Job well done.

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And thank merrick Garland for the perfect choice in Jack smith!

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This digital platform is indeed a Community. I come to this (for me) coffee house and sit, usually over two cups of coffee, and digest the letter, offer opinions occasionally, and read the other comments of readers who, like me, are community here.

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Sounds idyllic, Ally. I'm on my first espresso macchiato, but at my desk!

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And, he will play videos and tapes for the jury as well!

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I got here late, sorry. But why I'm here too

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Absolutely, Avery

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With the Russians crawling all over Mar-a-Lago and probably Bedminster, I’d be more surprised if classified documents DIDN’T fall into enemy hands.

And you can’t discount the possibility that Trump sold them for cash.

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Jared Kushner got TWO BILLION DOLLARS from the Saudi Crown Prince in exchange for (....?)

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His sage counsel?

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Jared got paid for being a good useful idiot, like tRump. In other words, he was paid for being a good stooge.

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Also his consciencelessness and access to power.

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unlike Hunter Biden, who may have some conscience

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🤣 Good one

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🤣🤣🤣

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Espionage sounds about right. With his campaign speeches about bringing peace in Ukraine, it sounds like his plan was to kow tow to Putin and the Saudis as well.

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The terrible part is that the Republicans in the House are ready to follow. Knew many should have been indicted with the rioters, just as it has been impossible to do so. Our Founding Fathers did not imagine we would elect traitors.

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Exactly. How could the Founding Fathers have known? MTG and her ilk are in too far to back out now. Their inflammatory rhetoric and the extremists' call to violence is a big worry.

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The Founding Fathers anticipated a demagogue. They disliked political parties, but knew they were inevitable. They did not anticipate an entire political party choosing the demagogue over the nation

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Not only in the House. Have you heard anything from Senate Republicans? I haven't. They all have to be voted out of office, even the so-called "reasonable" ones, such as Romney.

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You nailed the real problem. Someone in the USA (and a lot of them) thought it was a good idea to vote for these yahoos.

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The founders never imagined the level of corruption in Congress today. The flaws of the Constitution have been revealed over time by Republicans gaming the rules to give themselves power that they could not get through fair elections.

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And they do not want fair elections, reference the Repub voter “integrity” crap all around the land.

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500 people showed up @ Ravalli Co Fairgrounds to rake one of the very best most honest Election official over the coals re the 2020 election as being "stolen". The big lie is alive & well in Montana & how many other states.

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Thanks, it's important that we learn about all that is going on outside our personal radiuses. Love Jon Tester!

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The propaganda and targeting the amygdalae has taken root.

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That’s really good news Carole. Where do you suppose the other 15000 people who live and work in Hamilton were. Not to mention the other 75000 residents of Ravalli County. You made my day. I think I will at least go watch high water to celebrate.

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Governor DeSantis: "If you become the next President, will you also help yourself to truck loads of classified files?"

Ask that of every Republican who is running for that office.

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They did imagine the corruption as they agonized over how far to try to control it without going too far. They had been dragged through corruption as colonists in subservience to the king as well as the big money corrupting their peers. Although fairly young these were men well educated and quite well to do on average. They even heard the rumble of Trumps jet searching for the runway the Brits were using by imagining change the future was destined to bring. I imagine they were a bit shaky at times, fearing if their adequacy would stand.

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

We should be careful how we say the "Jared 2 billion thing" or we begin to sound like Trump and the GOP. Mr. Kushner is being paid 25 million per year to invest the 2 billion of Saudi Sovereign Wealth funds. Saudi Arabia still owns the 2 billion, or it's decreased or increased value, not Kushner. Still 25 million a year is a lot of money for settling up a savings account.

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Thanks...did not know that!

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Has been told that he gave MBS information which allowed the Saudi to arrest those in his way to claiming the leadership (dictator) of the country.

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Interesting. Do you remember where you heard that?

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To be clear, the "he" is Jared not TFG!

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If Jared charges an annual "management fee," a 1% fee on $2 Billion is $20 million, and due to "carried interest" Jarel will pay taxes on that income at the capital gains rate.

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Cue the Sherlock theme song.

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Yes, we have been wondering about Jared and what the Saudi's got in return for two billion dollars. It's breathtaking. Now we might surmise...

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Or traded a look for having the Liv gold tournaments at his courses. This, in my opinion, is why the merger of the pga and Liv is such a betrayal to our country.

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Good Morning!

FYI - LIV is the Roman numeral 54, representing scoring in a round of golf...birdie every hole.

To me LIV = deadly, dirty Saudi money now sadly ruling pro golf

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And yet, we still have 'friendly" relations with this backward patriarchy. It says a lot about how our leadership feels about women - not much apparently.

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Well, it probably also has something to do with how our leadership feels about having a military base in Saudi Arabia with about 4000 soldiers and a butt-load of missiles. And as ambivalent as I am about the military being a tool of diplomacy, that's exactly what they are.

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Of course they can come up with a lot of reasons for maintaining this relationship, including having access to oil. But it doesn't negate the statement it makes about women's human rights, which are easily swept aside for more "important" concerns.

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And doesn’t negate the “in your face” evil.

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I certainly human rights/women rights are important but we are getting less andless oil from SA. It seems we are "managing" this to slowly get weaned off? But not go on for 8 decades as he states here.

John Kirby, National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications: "As I said, I think, a few weeks ago, there's going to be issues where we don't agree with Saudi Arabia and we have the kind of relationship where we can express those concerns directly and we do all, all the time. But we're focused on the future. Saudi Arabia's still a strategic partner, has been for eight decades, will be for the next eight decades and we're managing that relationship going forward. That's what our focus is on," Kirby said. Our dependcy on Saudi Arabia's oil has decreased steadily

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Depressing, Dick.

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True, but try not to think about it too much. Thanks for the comment!

Btw, it's "Dirk."

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This was my first thought after hearing the news of the merger. A sad day for the game and deep concerns about what it foretells. Bad people sucking up life and money like a giant vacuum into their black and greedy hearts.

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Sherrie,

Admiring your ‘giant vacuum;

and on that note what once was ‘a hole in one’ has become a black hole.

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No golf, never again

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

Fishing, golf. Fishing, golf? What do think kids? You wanna saddle up some ponies and head up to Lena Lake and go fishing or do you wanna go to the golf course with those old men over there. If she has her mothers permission your pal can go too.

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A boat on open water, a small party on the wide open spaces of a golf course. What two better settings for passing top secret documents between friends under the guise of innocent recreational activities, unobserved. Beautiful.

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All kinds of nefarious deals get cut on the golf course.

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George Carlin: “Golf Courses!!!….land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity, engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do, male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer among themselves.”

Lord, how I miss that man! If you’ve never heard his diatribe on golf and don’t mind profanity, here’s a link to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GchEbLSY9FY

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Loved Carlin.

Someone described golf as “a good walk ruined.”

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I hadn’t thought of that. Of course!!!

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And, a major critic who is mincing no words, Rory McElroy, is a Brit! [N. Ireland]

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But I don't think money was why he stole the stuff. His motivations were the same as Jack Teixeira's: they were things he could show off, to prove what a big man he was. He couldn't keep a secret, what's the point of possessing secret documents if you can't tell someone that you have them? They both have the consciousness -- and conscience -- of a five-year-old. (But it must be said that the stuff Teixeira stole was chicken feed compared to what the Duck stole. We should show some mercy to the one but none to the other.)

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Trump has certainly demonstrated his pride at thumbing his nose at propriety and the law; much of it with the eager aid of the "GOP". They're still at it, but Trump is playing out of his league. Jack Smith and all that are aiding him is altering the course of history. HCR has underlined words for future history books:

"We have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone. Applying those laws. Collecting facts. That’s what determines the outcome of an investigation. Nothing more. Nothing less."

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Yes J L! Absolutely historic! Jack Smith - and his aides- are already heroes/heroines!

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Kathy Jack Smith provides an inspiring sequel to the movie “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.”

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I'm wondering if half of those Republican 'lawmakers' have seen those classified documents and passed it on to the rest of those interested. Or do they get that information on their Intelligent briefings?

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Showing off and making money have always gone hand in hand with Donald Trump. The two motives are bound together, as so much of his ego is tied up in being a rich and genius dealmaker.

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Think Trumps mental developmental age of about 7 years old, in part explains these horrors…as an extremely spoiled and thoroughly rejected child he ‘retaliates against any blockage to his wishes in these gross and horribly immature ways….

If he were just a disturbed ‘jerk’ in the periphera we’d be OK …but he’s not, he’s a huge threat to our country and the world as he is the repository actor for similarly aggrieved and developmentally profoundly damaged folks worldwide.

In some ways he’s the personification of evil.

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This is why I call him death star. He is a festering cancer on the body politic and even with this damning indictment, nearly all in the party of death are defending him, the worst of them calling for violence. What he took is indeed so damaging to us and I think he intended to sell them, if he hasn't sold some already. The bathroom picture would be funny if it weren't so awful with boxes peeking over the top of the shower. From the get go, it was obvious to me and many others that this monster should never be president and yet.....thanks to several factors, here we are. Jack Smith was quite succinct in his speech although I doubt the cult heard the importance of what he was saying. These are the same hypocrites who pretend to be patriots and Christians.

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Fox didn’t tell

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The bathroom was not only a storage place but the toilet is still accessible...so, was used by guests at one of the many many events/parties/ weddings?

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I am assume it was accessible to anyone.

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Comparing trump's mental development to that of children is demeaning and insulting to them as they have a much better grasp of reality.

However, your reference to him as the personification of evil is right on. In another post here I refer to him as the definitive definition of the Anti-Christ....

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Personally, I've always had the notion that the Anti-Christ would be a LOT smarter and much more competent than Ol' Yamface. Donald, you are no Anti-Christ.

What Donald is: a cheap and sleazy wannabe mobster who thinks he's invincible and has the mentality of a spoilt five year old.

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From a human development perspective, Trump’s behavior appears to me to be fixated in a very prepubescent and ‘blocked’ state and I agree it’s insulting to normally developing kids to draw the inference..but I’m at a loss to ‘locate’ his behavior anywhere beyond that description.

Chris Christie described Trump as a spoiled child in that he ‘retaliates’ in an exceedingly childish manner…hitting Christie and his ‘weight’ issues with a smorgasbord video….about 5 iI think…

Absolutely no question about the ‘evil’ deal….

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After that stunt of closing a major commuter bridge just to hurt a couple of political opponents, Christie is a great, big, pot talking about an even larger kettle.

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

I truly believe that he is a narcissistic sociopath. Anyone with a normal, functioning brain and psyche is never going to understand someone like this. He doesn't see anyone other that himself as real, and therefore, all that exists are his whims, his impulsive desires, and the things that make him feel good.

How can anyone who isn't like this possibly grasp how a creature like this processes information? We can't. He is an empty, screaming void inside. That's why he can rattle off such lies so fast: they aren't things he's consciously thinking of to say, he's just saying whatever pops into his head.

The emptiness of his supporters is the thing that confounds ME. HOW can they not see what he is??? I just don't understand it.

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Add to that he spouts name calling to the equivalent of potty names of that 5 y.o. spoiled child.

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Yet I read yesterday the Baptists have renewed with zeal their support. I just don’t get an established religious denomination supporting this manchild.

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

I believe the Southern Baptist Convention issues a strongly worded official rebuke to Trump. From WaPo: "Brent Leatherwood, head of the Southern Baptist Convention's policy arm, issued a rebuke of former president Donald Trump, saying the charges against him “are incredibly serious and, if proven, would constitute an ethical and national security breach of stunning proportion.” Let's hope this is true.

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The Methodist church I went to was fine until the Baptist song leader became a Repub nut, ran for my life.

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It's only the religious followers that are into showmanship rather than the essence of what they're supposed to be adhering to that support him....

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Which Baptists? Perhaps the Southern Baptists, but unlikely it is the American Baptists whose principles are very different from the Southerns.

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I had not read the comment which followed and states the reality in more detail.

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Apprentice Antichrist.

The enormity of his messes -- surpassed only by those of his exemplar and probable boss in the Kremlin -- brings to mind the tale of the Sorceror's Apprentice.

Setting off a sewage tide that cannot be stopped.

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The German High Command put Lenin on a sealed train and sent him north... like a virus, to take Russia out of the war...

Could this weird being be Putin's virus of counter-revolution, sent to wreck the American republic?

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Last comment, he always has been. At first I thought he was just a reality show joke, but Fox made him a hero to the cult. And such a huge cult with not a thought that the “leader” didn’t plant.

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Yes, but the golf deal with Saudi Arabia is surely set up to benefit DJT without the obvious crassness of simply handing him a huge check!

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It could be that Trump was and has been blackmailed by Putin from the get-go, with photos of Trump trysting in Moscow hotel rooms with Russian babes. That is an almost certainty. How else to explain his obsequousness to Putin, particularly at Helsinki?

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Thank you, Richard Sutherland. I have never doubted the Steele Dossier. It fits DT to a T. The Republican propaganda machine is, with the exception of the Kremlin’s, the best I know of since Goebbels. And it may be the death of US.

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200% right

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I have doubted parts of the Dossier, but never doubted Putin has some hold over Trump.

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Have you wondered (silly question) about the topics Putin and Trump covered in their 2-hour private meeting after that, where Trump confiscated the interpreter’s notes? No record.

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I always assumed it was directions from Putin to Trump how to get the items on Putin’s wish list accomplished

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What's that line? Something like, "Doubt is the chastity of the mind." Fortunately, whatever is in the Steele dossier is merely makeweight after all he's done since. I don't feel a need to puzzle over the credibility of that troublesome expose'.

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Cripes, why would Drump care about that? His trial (the Stormy Daniels payoff) proved to him that he can pay off his mistresses and his cult fans still send him $$$. I think if Putin is holding anything at all over Drump's head, the material would almost have to be graphic and include really shockingly indecent acts or involve girls/children under the age of consent, to move the needle at all.

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Yeah, exactly. He's so bizarre about being what he thinks is "strong" that he might even be proud of trysts with actual women, so if there is something, it has to be beyond the pale.

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Putin is so clever; why wouldn't he set Trump up with teenagers and video surveillance?

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One of the girls he raped was 13 in the US. Could be that he raped the same in Russia and it was filmed.

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It’s worse than blackmail. Trump looks up to Putin as his Big Boss.

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In Trump we literally had a Russian agent in the White House.

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Disastrously true.

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My perspective: Trump is never ashamed of his sexual misconduct, in fact, seems to revel in it. But, Putin has promoted Trump's power needs and did much to pollute our social media with bots and fake groups that espoused anti Hillary sentiments and outright distortions of her behavior. Putin apparently made his tech experts brilliance available to the Trump team.

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I bet we'll find that his tryst was with another male, maybe Putin.

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I would think that screwing multiple babes would be a feather in his cap. You may be on to something here

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Wow! Now that is definitely thinking outside the box. But, I don't think so. It's the beautiful babes that catch his eye - I think. It's difficult to know when dealing with a malignant narcisist.

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Golden showers anyone? Don’t you know they have everything on tape.

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I'd be willing to bet all of my daughters' inheritance that they do. Absolutely no doubt.

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I stayed at what I believe is the same Moscow hotel and was warned in advance that they had videotape capability.

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I’ve always believed that was the stick that kept Putin’s dog at heel.

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Revenge is his modus operandus. His taking of them and his callous disregard for the contents was a fuck you to the United States of America. He did it to hurt people. Most people are not going to be able to understand/accept that he is that malicious but it is the TRUTH we are faced with. Ask the experts

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Trump is a malicious narcissi. =incurable

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And good, smart people who made a career of understanding this subject were aggressively opposed in their attempts to warn us years ago.

If a democracy wants to remain a democracy they better figure out how to elevate the voice/knowledge of experts and prevent the greedy vengeful bturds from spewing 💩💩💩 over the land

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And this is scary the way he has the support of the "gun lovin" fools!

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YES INDEED: The NRA (National Republican Army) and their millions of myopic followers. Profitable business being the Lords of War, eh?

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Even more - maliciously malignant narcissist.

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Although I agree with you 100% about his motivations and his ego being his downfall, it is not right to insult five-year-olds who have a much better grasp of reality.

I remember when many Obama-haters referred to Obama as the Anti-Christ. What I understood the Anti-Christ to refer to was a charismatic figure who would dupe his followers into literally acting against everything Christ stood for. Yet, I have not heard one reference to trump as the Anti-Christ--someone who truly fits the bill....

I stumbled upon this on the internet buffet--it's both entertaining and scary:

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/end-times/who-is-the-antichrist-lawlessness.html

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I did see a video a while back that was created by some preacher guy whose name escapes me, all about how tfg EXACTLY fits the bill for being the Anti-Christ, right down to the "mark of the beast on his followers foreheads (red MAGA hats)".

It's probably still out in the ether somewhere.

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Amen. I heard that and was blocked by some of my so called in name only "Christian friends". It was their choice. However, I remember who they are!

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Clifford I agree that what Teixeira stole was’ chicken feed compared to what the Duck stole.’ It’s time to pluck this Duck.

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Perhaps, but he’s always proven to be transactional. Hearing all this now, my question is, how he was able to accumulate all these documents...I believed there was protocol as to how these documents were to be handled? That needs to be investigated as well... immediately!

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No mercy to either

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Sadly true. He'd give away nuclear launch codes if Putin would rub his tummy.

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I've long thought that he took the documents for 2 reasons: 1. to show them off..."my pretty" and 2. to sell them/or the information they contain, if the opportunity arises.

I hope that the National Archives develops a better system for controlling all documents. Why not air tags on the most sensitive?

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HCR reports: "There is also substantial risk that other countries will be reluctant to share intelligence with the United States in the future. At the very least, it is an unfortunate coincidence that the Central Intelligence Agency in October 2021 reported an unusually high rate of capture or death for foreign informants recruited to spy for the United States."

Some of the jackets found at Mar-a-Lago were empty. Where are they, in Putin's desk drawer? Does their missing explain the mysterious deaths last year of some who were close to Putin and giving info to U.S. Intelligence? Probably. Trump's crimes may also include treason.

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Probably in special guest packages for "friends" of Loose Lip Donny? Imagine a three-night stay at MAL or Bedminster (or some other Trump property) ranging in price from say $1million to $18m that includes meals, golf, lodging, drinks, and entertainment: e.g., a peek show at the Document Room, fondling of Classified Documents, selfies with military defense plans, photo-ops, camera included, document copying and transfers, actual souvineer documents, time with tfg, breakfast with Ivanka, tickets to the next Orban election rally. My anger and fears consume me now.

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And, they should. We are literally figuratively "fiddling while Rome burns."

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Richard, given how the boxes were stored; the insecurity of all locations; TFG's compulsion to show them off and his transactional nature, I believe that we have to assume that every one of the contents in those boxes is known. Like a spy whose cover is blown, all the contents in those boxes are essentially "blown."

This is a national security nightmare and a crippling blow to our intelligence services. No opposing nation will admit having our information, because it's only valuable to them if we are still operating under the assumption it's unknown. We have no idea who has what, how much of it they have and who else they've shared it with. Absolutely devastating.

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With a foreign enemy like Putin, who pays and trains multiple goons well to bring home that kind of information, being able to snap photos of anything in those boxes stacked in public places, it seems unlikely tffg is looking to get paid. The level of disrespect for our country, our allies, and intelligence personnel, is shattering. It feels like the worst kind of imaginable “eff you” to the US of America. Trump pissed all over everyone including the MAGA’s. And now our allies know how much despicable contempt tffg had for them as well. 😩 It’s the stuff of nightmares💔

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The MAGAs seem to like it when he pisses on them -- they're glad to have a shared interest.

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Putin owns trump and trump's only interest is himself and money. He does not give a hoot about the country or his beloved uneducated supporters. In his own words ,on the rare occasion he speaks the truth, he said essentially, that the full extent of the law should be brought to bare on HRC for her emails. So, I say "look him up". He has never been held accountable for all of his many crimes, let the chickens come home to roost!!!

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 11, 2023

Given how deranged he seems much of the time, I doubt Trump even knows how many people own him. All Putin had to say on that first meeting was, "Da, you big man now, Donny-boy!" After wiping the tears of joy from his eyes, the fool probably offered military secrets just to prove it.

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One of his lawyers (now resigned!) kept giving the excuse they were photocopies, not originals. Oh, that’s a relief. Duh.

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Which is further evidence of his intention ... and the understanding of the severity of the materials in which he was taking ... he Knew it and Did it anyway ...

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or for the LIV golf business and building of hotels in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries.

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If his buddy sleaze ball Manfort is not in jail, then surely he saw the material!

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Selling them for $$ would certainly be very like him.

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A source noted today a long tradition of trying to break into presidents’ second homes. :(

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All anyone needed was a tiny camera, leaving the actual documents there.

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And I’d say most probably

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I applaud Mr. Smith's decision to bring the case in the Southern District of Florida, despite what I understand were options to bring the matter to the D.C. Circuit. Instead, he's taken the case into the heart of a MAGA/DeSantis stronghold, showing that there are still enough honest people in Florida to staff a grand jury. Let any civil disturbances be DeSantis' problem. Let the people of Florida see, in their own Miami courtroom, exactly what their most famous resident did to them and their country.

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“… if I can make it there, I’ll make it anywhere…”

Smith’s Grand Jury which recommended the charges was out of southern FL.

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"...showing that there are still enough honest people in Florida to staff a grand jury. " That remains to be seen. Is it true that convictions of these accounts require unanimous verdicts? And how about Judge Cannon? Are you kidding me? If she presides over all this, I have every reason to think she will make it very tough on the prosecution for very poor reasons. I do, however, agree that the choice of venue is overall the right thing.

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If the federal appeals court threw out her rulings regarding the "special master" to oversee going through the documents, they could probably act again should she be seen as too lenient to the person who appointed her to that position. She could/should recuse herself to stay out of the maelstrom that such a high-level trial surely will be.

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Cannon is a MAGAt, WTF

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Does Cannon have the power to determine the sentencing if T is convicted by a jury?

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I believe it is just the arraignment. But then, I only know what I know from Law and Order.

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The trials. NYC (sexual assault), Miami (espionage and obstruction of justice), Atlanta (election fraud), DC (sedition and attempt to overthrow election). The outcome. Maximum Security Imprisonment and candidate in 2028 Presidential Election?

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I know some in Florida, good luck to Jack

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"Legal scholar Joyce White Vance noted that it was 'extremely sad for our country that this isn’t a bipartisan statement being made by leaders from both parties.'"

Which is reality: two "parties" or "one party and a criminal cartel gang posing as a party-- sponsored by the most ruthless segment of the ruling class?"

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There are criminal political parties in the world; but the once "Party of Lincoln" has abandoned both decency and legitimacy and rejected rule of law. If they, as a party, should at some point turn their back on the man they enabled, shielded, and continue to claim allegiance to despite knowing perfectly well what he was, they will still remain un-indicted co-conspirators.

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Well said, JL Graham, and thank you. Every time I hear another member of the House speak out condemning the Smith Report, I feel sick. Can we survive the traitors?

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I’m hoping that when the J6 case against tfg is brought, some of them will also be charged—like Nauta was in this case.

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Yes. Scott Perry and Mike Kelly, I'm looking at you.

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Well, that's a hopeful note.

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Both Daines & Rosendale of MT voice condemnations of the indictment on their FB page to their supporters.

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Is Jon Tester not only the only farmer in Congress, but also the only Democrat in MT? (Oops. Is it Idaho I’m thinking of? Truly I don’t care as long as I’m reminding everyone who reads this post to think of climate change and send what you can to the senator. The country needs him.)

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It is both states that are flaming red! Jon Tester is the only native MT & a farmer that the ingrate Gov, & congressional rep are vowing to take out. He is the only Dem from Mt in Congress. I hope the national Dem Com gets solidly behind him. We had a strong woman Monica Tranel running but was not as well funded as Zinke (as in ride your horse in DC & resign in disgrace) & she narrowly lost. It takes a lot of fortitude to be & run as a dem in Mt. Even Independents supported by both parties can't win. It is god & guns & $$$$$$$ here.

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Thank you, Carol. I have sent a small donation to Jon Tester and wish I had more to send. Not only is he the only MT farmer, but also it is my understanding that he is the only farmer period. My mission is trying to get people to understand that food inflation is here to stay unless we have price controls and rationing as in WWII. In a nation where children are going to bed hungry and the old and poor are being exploited, it is time to find a fair way to distribute food that is and will be available.

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That is absolutely disgusting.

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I hope so; with focus, resolve and solidarity.

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J L Graham: " . . . un-indicted co-conspirators." Yes--Exactly.

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This is a ghastly level of criminality, even for Trump. I also like that Jack Smith reminded everyone that Trump wasn't indicted by Biden or Garland, but by a grand jury in Trump Florida. Given the details and evidence listed in the indictment papers--I read them before posting here--his goose is cooked so badly that prison cooks will serve it l'orange.

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ISWYDT

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I see what you did there. Goose a l’orange... T💩p’s favorite skin tone is orange ...

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Yes! I freely admit it was pretty obscure--duck l'orange is something my grandfather used to make--but you guys got it. Smart folks here.

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Nah, got it straightaway! This is a smart bunch here! I too thought first of "canard à l'orange" (which I LOVE!), since tfg is referred to as "Duck" on here.

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High fives for the smart people, Bruce!

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Virginia, I often have to resort to Google or the Urban Dictionary when confronted with something like that.

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Thank you for the Urban Dictionary reference. As a longtime researcher, I am not enchanted with google, often using it with one eye, as it were.

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I See What You Did There.

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Thanks.

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After reading the indictment it’s hard to imagine what his defense will be. And the charges carry potentially long prison sentences. With such a clear prosecution case, most defendants would be seriously discussing a plea bargain.

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

I don't think Trump would ever take a plea, as it would deprive him of his very favorite pastime--crying "me me me" on TV. Does Florida allow cameras inside courtrooms? If so, he'd never pass up the chance to fundraise and brag even if he got 20 years for doing it ...

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Shane- I think you’re right. And he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is ever wrong.

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Thanks, Lorraine. His inability to admit he's wrong is what's going to put him in jail. Someone with full maturity and reasoning would have told the Archives, "Oh, damn, I had no idea. Come get them, my guys will help you load the vans. Sure, search the place, make sure you have everything." Had he done that, this would have been a Nothingburger and he would not face charges. Instead, he doubled down on "I'm In Charge, Not You, Get Lost" and now he will pay the price. His problem is thinking that the Justice Department would slink away like all the little contractors he stiffed over the years.

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The worst possible thing Trump could do at trial would be to take the stand, under oath, in his own defense. I'm quite sure that he will do exactly that.

Oh God, please let it be televised.

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I believe Florida allows trials to be televised. But I don't know if that applies only to state courts, or federal, or both.

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Goose a La Orange!! LOL

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Thanks, Meredith. It seemed fitting ...

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Yup...

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“At the very least, it is an unfortunate coincidence that the Central Intelligence Agency in October 2021 reported an unusually high rate of capture or death for foreign informants recruited to spy for the United States.”

If these deaths can be directly connected to tfg’s panhandling with top secret documents, could he be tried for murder in the third degree?

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I remember when the high murder rate, under Trump, was originally reported and figured it was Trump bleeding information in exchange for money.

However, Rose, it will be/would be very difficult to find evidence that those murders are associated with Trump, not because Trump won't bleed information but because the services in the countries that performed the murders/assassinations will be lock tight about information.

Plus, the US itself has a long history of murder and assassination in foreign countries, and possibly in this country under J Edgar Hoover, as part of US policy, especially when accusations of "communism" were used to murder people that did not do what the US wanted.

Example: when the US had the duly elected, by a democratic process, leader of Iran murdered in 1953 because he was not aligned with US oil interests. That guy, wanted to use the oil for his own people in Iran and was assassinated by the US because that made him a "communist".

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/692259096/new-npr-podcast-examines-the-animosity-between-the-u-s-and-iran

There is also the more recent assassination of an Iranian citizen by the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani#:~:text=Soleimani%20was%20commander%20of%20the,to%20Supreme%20Leader%20Ali%20Khamenei.

And many more.

Today, in general, the US tries to use Israel to do its dirty work of assassination since Israel maintains a group for that purpose for its own "defense".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Mabhouh

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Unfortunately, very true, Mike S. The book The Last Honest Man: The CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and the Kennedys—and One Senator's Fight to Save Democracy, by (Pulitzer Prize winner) James Risen, covers these types of assassinations. The last honest man was Senator Frank Church, whose committee investigated the government agencies AND presidents who ordered or executed these murders. Ken Burns calls Risen’s book a “gripping . . . spectacular piece of reporting.”

Thanks for sharing these links; I will read them next.

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Thank you for your added info!

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Reminding us of Mossadegh is excellent. Then there is the CIA in Chile. (Sorry. I didn’t go to your references yet. Thank you very much for reminding us of our sins, but whataboutism is deadly at this moment.

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Virginia.

Accurate memories of history are no threat.

It is when history is forgotten that bad things happen.

Trump’s support for other countries by laundering information for money is simple treason.

Hard to prove tho.

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Thank you, Mike S. Been collecting history since preWWII, so sometimes I remember my reaction instead of precise dates. Now if I just kept googling…

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Thanks for the counterpoint, Mike S. Remember when the U.S. invaded Russia in 1918? It is hard to claim with a straight face that Putin doesn't have reason to distrust, well, everybody. 'Still not a good reason to invade Ukraine, though...

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Odd to me that because Trump ordered the assassination of Quasem Soleiman, I don't think of it as an American atrocity.....but, of course, it is!

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Assassination outside of declared war is a questionable approach.

However, apparently many countries do it.

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We simply cannot rid the world of Putin and his henchmen....the deadliest and most barbaric (except Hitler and his team).

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How likely is it that the Florida Legislature is at this moment in a panic to draft legislation to shield Trump from just such a possible liability

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DeSantis should be next on the chopping block! His rulings are blatantly hateful and discriminatory! If there is a Christian god at the helm of these religious wing-nuts, I am sure he/she does not preach hate thy neighbor.

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Very likely. Then again, presidential contender DeSantis’s authoritarian whim could interrupt that process…

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Treason.

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

Yes,

Trump is the very heart and soul of Treason.

The Leader of the Republican Party. A Party in full throated support of his treason.

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Yes, he is a very dangerous enemy of the United States of America. He’s also a broken toy, an agent of chaos, a wrecker of lives, a buffoon and a fool. That is why he is very dangerous to our country. He’s more of a danger than a fully functional intelligent person would be.

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Kinda like the blood on his hands during Covid?

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Jun 10, 2023·edited Jun 10, 2023

To say we're in unchartered territory is a cliché but one that perfectly describes the situation. First, I applaud Jack Smith's thoroughness, speed, clarity, and nothing-but-the-facts approach. And kudos to Merrick Garland for appointing him.

Questions: Will the inept and partisan Judge Cannon end up trying the case and seek, at the very least, to slow it down enough to delay the trial until after the election, as some legal experts have speculated? Will we ever learn if some of the most sensitive documents ended up the hands of adversaries, and if so did Trump profit from the transfer?

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Robert Hubble has some worthwhile thoughts about "Lucuy" Cannon tonight.

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Thanks for the Hubble recommend - excellent Substack!!

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