Janan: True, except you and I aren’t going to engage at a depth that meaningful and makes a difference here deep in the comment section of someone else’s thread so I don’t know the intent of your reply beyond what lands for me as an attempt to discredit, disempower, dismiss, or diminish my contribution.
So if you are threatening by my comment I’d ask you to look and see what got threatened that you felt the need to push back with nice form of “yeah, BUT…”
I’d say that you are passionately committed to something and that that commitment has been thwarted. This being thwarted shows itself in passive aggressive or what I like to call more directly, covert hostility.
I suggest you get unhooked or in stuck and recover your commitment to whatever worthy thing you are committed to like making a difference somewhere somehow in this crazy world we share.
Thank you, Bern. I do not agree with much of what you said. Nevertheless, you expressed your opinion even-handedly. Janan was out of bounds; maybe hamsters know something we do not. 😉
Hi Ned, from comments I see of yours and this one, I see you are working on getting complete in your experience and expression of love and relationship and that is really great. Good for you!
The care and generosity you are contributing to life and in particular to me here is really appreciated.
I am not looking for your approval or any one else approval. The withholding or doling out of agreement or approval is like a currency substitution for love we think we have control over. As was said in The Prophet, you don’t control the course of love. It controls your course.
You see, if you look around you’ll see that it’s really clear that the need for approval rules most people’s live. It’s an unconscious principle almost every infant has to form because as an infant our survival is 100% up to our parents and getting them to support us is something we have deep survival patterns around which most people carry through life because they never completed that fundamental formative relationship with their parents.
The break in that fundamental relationship occurred when we experienced them withdrawing their support which at some point everyone experiences.
Still, even with that break in the experience of the absolute love of our parents, the foundation of all and I do mean ALL relationships is love. What this means is that everyone loves everyone absolutely and the relationship, all relationships are already completely complete.
What we are together dramatizing are the blocks and barriers to the experience and expression of that absolute love. Fun, no? Crazy, yes! 😍
Ya know, when you get who you really are you get weird and the more you know yourself the weirder you get. This is where the fallacy of judging a book by its cover plays. Many have “be dignified” as their basic life principle. While there’s nothing wrong with being dignified if it is authentic, for most it is going through the motions.
Anyway, this is already deeply into TL;DR territory.
Bern: True, except human beings are a bit more complex & evolved than hamsters.
Janan: True, except you and I aren’t going to engage at a depth that meaningful and makes a difference here deep in the comment section of someone else’s thread so I don’t know the intent of your reply beyond what lands for me as an attempt to discredit, disempower, dismiss, or diminish my contribution.
So if you are threatening by my comment I’d ask you to look and see what got threatened that you felt the need to push back with nice form of “yeah, BUT…”
I’d say that you are passionately committed to something and that that commitment has been thwarted. This being thwarted shows itself in passive aggressive or what I like to call more directly, covert hostility.
I suggest you get unhooked or in stuck and recover your commitment to whatever worthy thing you are committed to like making a difference somewhere somehow in this crazy world we share.
Thank you, Bern. I do not agree with much of what you said. Nevertheless, you expressed your opinion even-handedly. Janan was out of bounds; maybe hamsters know something we do not. 😉
Hi Ned, from comments I see of yours and this one, I see you are working on getting complete in your experience and expression of love and relationship and that is really great. Good for you!
The care and generosity you are contributing to life and in particular to me here is really appreciated.
I am not looking for your approval or any one else approval. The withholding or doling out of agreement or approval is like a currency substitution for love we think we have control over. As was said in The Prophet, you don’t control the course of love. It controls your course.
You see, if you look around you’ll see that it’s really clear that the need for approval rules most people’s live. It’s an unconscious principle almost every infant has to form because as an infant our survival is 100% up to our parents and getting them to support us is something we have deep survival patterns around which most people carry through life because they never completed that fundamental formative relationship with their parents.
The break in that fundamental relationship occurred when we experienced them withdrawing their support which at some point everyone experiences.
Still, even with that break in the experience of the absolute love of our parents, the foundation of all and I do mean ALL relationships is love. What this means is that everyone loves everyone absolutely and the relationship, all relationships are already completely complete.
What we are together dramatizing are the blocks and barriers to the experience and expression of that absolute love. Fun, no? Crazy, yes! 😍
Ya know, when you get who you really are you get weird and the more you know yourself the weirder you get. This is where the fallacy of judging a book by its cover plays. Many have “be dignified” as their basic life principle. While there’s nothing wrong with being dignified if it is authentic, for most it is going through the motions.
Anyway, this is already deeply into TL;DR territory.
Thanks again for your love and support.
I love you.
Bern
Well I lost an epistle. The forever essay basically made three points, learned through building an adult friendship with my parents.
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1st, one has a choice to forgive, to accept, to cherish, and to be kind.
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2nd, compassion is the crowing human virtue inside one's mind and mercy is the crowning human charity inside a grateful heart.
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3rd, the first two points are only possible with humility and self-respect.
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4th (extra credit), the three points enumerated above only work when one laughs at him-or-herself and with the world.
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May not seem like much but my techno-clumsiness spared you a neutron bomb (i.e., where you fall asleep but remain standing).