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Olof Ribbing's avatar

Interesting point John! So what if we could recognize that we are all involved in history as a system of systems? As we can experience i Systemic Constellations; families, all what has influenced our background, our nations... Thinking of fascism as survival at the cost of others, I would think historically leaves most of us as such survivors.

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John's avatar

Yes, we can think of our social organizations as systems, sets of processes aimed at achieving particular goals. We can improve those systems to some varying degree. But it is a challenge, part of which is to find those who are willing to work with us in good faith.

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Olof Ribbing's avatar

What appears in Systemic Constellations is largely playing out on an unconscious level, but is often amazingly relevant, more open to 'acknowledge what is' than aiming at goals.

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John's avatar

I'm not suggesting arbitrary goals, like, say, a certain level of production. But a process is designed to achieve something (goal). How well we achieve that something requires us to understand the process in terms of statistical process control. How we reduce special cause variation in the process looks at the elements of the process for improvement. For quality improvement, as you probably well know, one does not just assign some number picked at random. In my mind, quality improvement of a process necessarily entails reduction of special cause variation.

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