Eric, Another positive note is the Justice Department’s Independent Inspector General opened an investigation today '... into the decision by federal prosecutors to secretly seize the data of House Democrats and reporters as investigators hunted down who was leaking classified information early in the Trump administration. The announceme…
Eric, Another positive note is the Justice Department’s Independent Inspector General opened an investigation today '... into the decision by federal prosecutors to secretly seize the data of House Democrats and reporters as investigators hunted down who was leaking classified information early in the Trump administration. The announcement followed a referral by the deputy attorney general, Lisa O. Monaco, according to a senior Justice Department official; Attorney General Merrick B. Garland directed her to take that step, the official said.' (NY Times)
One of my questions is why didn't this happen before the New York Times reported the story on Thursday - the day before the Inspector General was asked to review this rape of justice.? Another question is why are the lawyers in the Justice Department who did Sessions/Barr/Trump's bidding still with the Department? This is just a morsel of the corruption of our government by Trump & Co. What other governmental functions need to be examined and fumigated, the State Department, for instance?
Eric, My computer was down last night. I replied to you on my IPhone. This morning, once my computer awakened, I decided to delete that jangled message of mine. If you saw it -- forget about it. I will reply to you later after finishing a few necessary duties. Cheers!
I have particular concern for him given his position, the importance of the Justice Department and its corruption by the former administration. I do not see him as a 'child' unsuited to the monumental and highly charged work at hand. Who would have been confirmed by the Senate and who would be up to this situation?
While you and I generally agree about the USA in pieces, our emphases, interpretations and writing styles differ. This can be a stumbling block to our understanding of one another and conducting successful exchanges.
Given the level of my concern about the state of the country, I may misinterpret your comments as emotionally indulgent and lose the meaning of what you have conveyed. In times of serious trouble, I try to avoid emotional displays. Of course, not entirely, because how can anyone alert to what is happening not be filled with emotion? Maintaining a level of calm in exchanges is my defense. I act and think better under those circumstances. I try not to let the mood temperature go above room temperature; in fact, I actually like it to be a little cooler than that.
I have thought that you minimize Garland as a little figure before the tsunami. There is reason to see the situation that way. I am in a more observant, listening, supportive and hopeful mode. That doesn't limit my ability to be critical. That is not a response I wish to avoid as you can tell.
My emphases now is to consider what needs to be done to bring Americans closer together, like much more local news and much more scrutiny, plus regulation of social media. Cheers, Eric.
I think the fact that you are a citizen and I am not is important. You are at the proverbial sharp end of an exceedingly sharp stick. One would have to be inhuman not to be emotionally impacted and deeply worried. I try to keep that front of mind when I write, but don’t often succeed.
I have two motivations here. One is that I really like the U.S. I have visited 30-40 times at a very rough guess and have never had a serious bad experience. So I am hoping for you to emerge in a way that the damage can be unwound as much as possible and the mistake never be repeated.
My second driving force is that I see your country as a possible case study of decline. My historical studies focused intensely on Great Britain, and I have read enough about Rome to have a sense of “decline” means in superpowers and how/why it comes about.
When I am being dispassionate, there are numerous comparisons that can be made especially between Edwardian England and current day US. To me, your country is solidly on that path.
When Britain decayed as the world superpower, America replaced it, not, I should add without two wars, a Holocaust and the Holodomor. But by 1950 the world order was clearly America’s to set and that was reassuring.
But now, it’s an entirely different scenario. The expression, “Après moi, le déluge”, frequently comes to mind. There is *no suitable Democratic replacement* for America as superpower. China, India, and Russia, most especially the first named, would be ghastly replacements as the acknowledged superpower.
It is extremely important to me that America recover.
I post fairly frequently here because I have deep respect for the group and I think I have much to learn and a little to contribute to a forum that could become very powerful.
I detest invective. I detest group think. This group has a number of people who seem to post in only to float with the prevailing winds. They present nothing substantive. On an individual basis I empathize with them. We are all needy - their neediness shows in an obvious desire to be part of the group. That’s fine. But when there is a large group doing that, the calibre of discussion plunges, and others buoyed by the likes of the groupies, are confident then that their opinion is impregnably correct and feel free to let loose cutting comments to those who disagree. The harm comes not from a single person who acts as a cheerleader. It comes when that becomes a large group.
It empowers others and the tone goes way, way down.
This series of posts is my ideal of how discussion should take place. It has been thoroughly civil. I feel that your rebuttal was in good faith and forced me to slow down and think again about the track I was on.
It is difficult to guard my time when responses such as yours arouse respect as well as our differences.
Your comments on the forum were written with a commanding voice. To me, they were ruminative in tone but without the substance/sources, which might have contributed more to my understanding of your reflections.
As you look to Edwardian England, perhaps, a model from which to understand America's decline, I consider our history of White supremacy; Goldwater and the Reagan era, Dark Money; far-right religious leaders; the roots of the anti-government, anti-taxes, anti-regulation movements; the technological revolution; the disappearance of local press, Social Media; the assault on truth (the BIG LIE); the losses of community and commonality as the treads to our decline.
Eric, I share your criticisms of the clutter and disruptive aspects of forum life. It saddened me, however, to see the perfectionistic tendency ring in;
as though any freely chosen large group (in the thousands) can live without its grandstanders, 'followers', intruders and kooks, no, no, no -- I don't think so.
Eric, you appear to be a favorite among many subscribers. My personal opinion is that with your education, concern and eloquence, perhaps, less scolding and premature hyper-criticism would be welcome. You are a historian, and consummate reader,.
While I won't be on the forum, I look forward with interest to reading your comments in the future. Salud!
Fern, I am saddened that you are leaving. We were just getting started in pleasant and worthwhile communications. I do hope that this new project is not a euphemism for a health problem. I have had a couple of brushes with my own mortality in the past five years, so perhaps I was over-sensitive to your (to us) abrupt departure. Regardless I send you my best wishes.
You are the one who commands deep respect and fondness on this sub. The comments that followed your announcement were fitting evidence of that.
I see you as a lover of truth and a deep advocate for justice. Many on this sub share these qualities but few articulate them with your open fierceness. That is a compliment, because you are one who argues the matter, not the person, trolls excepted. :)
I have reached a point in my life where the big ideas and trends seize my interest and drive me away from most stories of the day. So much so that I am writing a book. It’s working title is Splintered:Loss of Connection in a Furiously Changing America.
I hope you will not consider it tedious if I briefly explain its thesis.
I grew up in the Fifties and Sixties, raised a family through the Seventies into the Aughts and retired from teaching in 2017.
All of my adult life I have been a news junkie and I loved seeing trends develop and, in some cases fade.
My belief, and the spine of the thinking I express in my book, is that for America as a country and white America in particular the Fifties and Sixties were a time of great stability. Churches were packed, family life was (relatively speaking) manageable for most, especially given that divorce was not easy. Trust in the government was extraordinarily high. Civic organizations (Elks, Kiwanis etc) thrived. The Boy Scout movement reached millions.
Stability was challenged in the Sixties. There was great opportunity for a turn towards progressiveness. Alas the movement ran out of steam and it frightened powerful people. Then change came to America. Divorce was made easier, women made huge gains at heavy cost, people began to drift away from the cocoons of institutional support. There was the Reagan Revolution, the clearest thing I see as a demarcation point. Inequality increased and then exploded. Technology began to make a mark on us and then it too exploded into dominance. There was AIDS, the crack/pure cocaine epidemics. Sorry if this sounds rushed. :)
Americans began to feel displaced and mistrustful. Unions were gutted. There was a strong militia movement in the 90s and an opioid crisis which goes on to this day.
My point is that changes begot their own consequences, but also change begot other change. The world has begun to move at a blistering pace and America is a country that is prone to taking things to the max.
And Trump was an absolutely logical second demarcat. Nietchze (sp?) said long ago that if God didn’t exist, man would have had to invent him. I feel exactly that way about America and Trump.
Anyway…
I promise you Fern that this book is solidly and seriously researched. I may appear to take flights of fancy in LFAA but I generally stand behind what I write and am willing to be corrected. This forum excites me greatly.
Too long. Too long. I apologize. :)
I will be deeply sorry not to read you again and wish you succour in your love for America in its of time of deepest peril.
Good gracious Fern, I wouldn’t take offense at that. I appreciated that you thought enough to make a comment.
I actually went over in my mind what I’d written about women last night while waiting to fall asleep. So it was good for me to hear that, although I think I concluded that I’d met met that topic in a just and comprehensive way. (Considering it’s not a book specifically about women.)
Indeed, it may be in our natures to be good sparring partners. With reference to your book, please 'follow the money' and know our economic system.
Health is not an issue for me.
You were on target with truth and justice - so old-fashioned, am I. Feelings about the USA are mixed and have been since I was able to think beyond these are my parents, this is where I live, and I love my grandfather. Another thing about your book -- concerning women, I hope that you will feel challenged to max.
In all, Eric, I appreciate your consideration and ambition. I'll be a reader.
As you are a dear friend, I am breaking my promise of silence. Your tease to me today was tempting but NO. I won't be back until I finish several other matters. Today's juicy subjects from Heather and comments will take me long enough to absorb and think about. This break from the forum will give me time not only to take care of business but learn more from the comments by you and others. My spirit and affection will follow your lead.
Eric, Another positive note is the Justice Department’s Independent Inspector General opened an investigation today '... into the decision by federal prosecutors to secretly seize the data of House Democrats and reporters as investigators hunted down who was leaking classified information early in the Trump administration. The announcement followed a referral by the deputy attorney general, Lisa O. Monaco, according to a senior Justice Department official; Attorney General Merrick B. Garland directed her to take that step, the official said.' (NY Times)
One of my questions is why didn't this happen before the New York Times reported the story on Thursday - the day before the Inspector General was asked to review this rape of justice.? Another question is why are the lawyers in the Justice Department who did Sessions/Barr/Trump's bidding still with the Department? This is just a morsel of the corruption of our government by Trump & Co. What other governmental functions need to be examined and fumigated, the State Department, for instance?
You articulated what is my overriding question - how can a department so infiltrated by extreme loyalists not have undergone a purge.
I saw the I.G story. At least these ones won’t get fired.
All in all Garland must be like the child in whatever is the opposite of the candy store - paralyzed for choice. Or at least spoiled for choice.
Eric, My computer was down last night. I replied to you on my IPhone. This morning, once my computer awakened, I decided to delete that jangled message of mine. If you saw it -- forget about it. I will reply to you later after finishing a few necessary duties. Cheers!
We are back to Merrick Garland.
I have particular concern for him given his position, the importance of the Justice Department and its corruption by the former administration. I do not see him as a 'child' unsuited to the monumental and highly charged work at hand. Who would have been confirmed by the Senate and who would be up to this situation?
While you and I generally agree about the USA in pieces, our emphases, interpretations and writing styles differ. This can be a stumbling block to our understanding of one another and conducting successful exchanges.
Given the level of my concern about the state of the country, I may misinterpret your comments as emotionally indulgent and lose the meaning of what you have conveyed. In times of serious trouble, I try to avoid emotional displays. Of course, not entirely, because how can anyone alert to what is happening not be filled with emotion? Maintaining a level of calm in exchanges is my defense. I act and think better under those circumstances. I try not to let the mood temperature go above room temperature; in fact, I actually like it to be a little cooler than that.
I have thought that you minimize Garland as a little figure before the tsunami. There is reason to see the situation that way. I am in a more observant, listening, supportive and hopeful mode. That doesn't limit my ability to be critical. That is not a response I wish to avoid as you can tell.
My emphases now is to consider what needs to be done to bring Americans closer together, like much more local news and much more scrutiny, plus regulation of social media. Cheers, Eric.
I think the fact that you are a citizen and I am not is important. You are at the proverbial sharp end of an exceedingly sharp stick. One would have to be inhuman not to be emotionally impacted and deeply worried. I try to keep that front of mind when I write, but don’t often succeed.
I have two motivations here. One is that I really like the U.S. I have visited 30-40 times at a very rough guess and have never had a serious bad experience. So I am hoping for you to emerge in a way that the damage can be unwound as much as possible and the mistake never be repeated.
My second driving force is that I see your country as a possible case study of decline. My historical studies focused intensely on Great Britain, and I have read enough about Rome to have a sense of “decline” means in superpowers and how/why it comes about.
When I am being dispassionate, there are numerous comparisons that can be made especially between Edwardian England and current day US. To me, your country is solidly on that path.
When Britain decayed as the world superpower, America replaced it, not, I should add without two wars, a Holocaust and the Holodomor. But by 1950 the world order was clearly America’s to set and that was reassuring.
But now, it’s an entirely different scenario. The expression, “Après moi, le déluge”, frequently comes to mind. There is *no suitable Democratic replacement* for America as superpower. China, India, and Russia, most especially the first named, would be ghastly replacements as the acknowledged superpower.
It is extremely important to me that America recover.
I post fairly frequently here because I have deep respect for the group and I think I have much to learn and a little to contribute to a forum that could become very powerful.
I detest invective. I detest group think. This group has a number of people who seem to post in only to float with the prevailing winds. They present nothing substantive. On an individual basis I empathize with them. We are all needy - their neediness shows in an obvious desire to be part of the group. That’s fine. But when there is a large group doing that, the calibre of discussion plunges, and others buoyed by the likes of the groupies, are confident then that their opinion is impregnably correct and feel free to let loose cutting comments to those who disagree. The harm comes not from a single person who acts as a cheerleader. It comes when that becomes a large group.
It empowers others and the tone goes way, way down.
This series of posts is my ideal of how discussion should take place. It has been thoroughly civil. I feel that your rebuttal was in good faith and forced me to slow down and think again about the track I was on.
Cheers to you, Fern. :)
It is difficult to guard my time when responses such as yours arouse respect as well as our differences.
Your comments on the forum were written with a commanding voice. To me, they were ruminative in tone but without the substance/sources, which might have contributed more to my understanding of your reflections.
As you look to Edwardian England, perhaps, a model from which to understand America's decline, I consider our history of White supremacy; Goldwater and the Reagan era, Dark Money; far-right religious leaders; the roots of the anti-government, anti-taxes, anti-regulation movements; the technological revolution; the disappearance of local press, Social Media; the assault on truth (the BIG LIE); the losses of community and commonality as the treads to our decline.
Eric, I share your criticisms of the clutter and disruptive aspects of forum life. It saddened me, however, to see the perfectionistic tendency ring in;
as though any freely chosen large group (in the thousands) can live without its grandstanders, 'followers', intruders and kooks, no, no, no -- I don't think so.
Eric, you appear to be a favorite among many subscribers. My personal opinion is that with your education, concern and eloquence, perhaps, less scolding and premature hyper-criticism would be welcome. You are a historian, and consummate reader,.
While I won't be on the forum, I look forward with interest to reading your comments in the future. Salud!
Fern, I am saddened that you are leaving. We were just getting started in pleasant and worthwhile communications. I do hope that this new project is not a euphemism for a health problem. I have had a couple of brushes with my own mortality in the past five years, so perhaps I was over-sensitive to your (to us) abrupt departure. Regardless I send you my best wishes.
You are the one who commands deep respect and fondness on this sub. The comments that followed your announcement were fitting evidence of that.
I see you as a lover of truth and a deep advocate for justice. Many on this sub share these qualities but few articulate them with your open fierceness. That is a compliment, because you are one who argues the matter, not the person, trolls excepted. :)
I have reached a point in my life where the big ideas and trends seize my interest and drive me away from most stories of the day. So much so that I am writing a book. It’s working title is Splintered:Loss of Connection in a Furiously Changing America.
I hope you will not consider it tedious if I briefly explain its thesis.
I grew up in the Fifties and Sixties, raised a family through the Seventies into the Aughts and retired from teaching in 2017.
All of my adult life I have been a news junkie and I loved seeing trends develop and, in some cases fade.
My belief, and the spine of the thinking I express in my book, is that for America as a country and white America in particular the Fifties and Sixties were a time of great stability. Churches were packed, family life was (relatively speaking) manageable for most, especially given that divorce was not easy. Trust in the government was extraordinarily high. Civic organizations (Elks, Kiwanis etc) thrived. The Boy Scout movement reached millions.
Stability was challenged in the Sixties. There was great opportunity for a turn towards progressiveness. Alas the movement ran out of steam and it frightened powerful people. Then change came to America. Divorce was made easier, women made huge gains at heavy cost, people began to drift away from the cocoons of institutional support. There was the Reagan Revolution, the clearest thing I see as a demarcation point. Inequality increased and then exploded. Technology began to make a mark on us and then it too exploded into dominance. There was AIDS, the crack/pure cocaine epidemics. Sorry if this sounds rushed. :)
Americans began to feel displaced and mistrustful. Unions were gutted. There was a strong militia movement in the 90s and an opioid crisis which goes on to this day.
My point is that changes begot their own consequences, but also change begot other change. The world has begun to move at a blistering pace and America is a country that is prone to taking things to the max.
And Trump was an absolutely logical second demarcat. Nietchze (sp?) said long ago that if God didn’t exist, man would have had to invent him. I feel exactly that way about America and Trump.
Anyway…
I promise you Fern that this book is solidly and seriously researched. I may appear to take flights of fancy in LFAA but I generally stand behind what I write and am willing to be corrected. This forum excites me greatly.
Too long. Too long. I apologize. :)
I will be deeply sorry not to read you again and wish you succour in your love for America in its of time of deepest peril.
Eric, Sorry for nudging you about subject matter for your book. Temporally forgot that I wasn't the one writing it. Cheers!
Good gracious Fern, I wouldn’t take offense at that. I appreciated that you thought enough to make a comment.
I actually went over in my mind what I’d written about women last night while waiting to fall asleep. So it was good for me to hear that, although I think I concluded that I’d met met that topic in a just and comprehensive way. (Considering it’s not a book specifically about women.)
Thanks. :)
Indeed, it may be in our natures to be good sparring partners. With reference to your book, please 'follow the money' and know our economic system.
Health is not an issue for me.
You were on target with truth and justice - so old-fashioned, am I. Feelings about the USA are mixed and have been since I was able to think beyond these are my parents, this is where I live, and I love my grandfather. Another thing about your book -- concerning women, I hope that you will feel challenged to max.
In all, Eric, I appreciate your consideration and ambition. I'll be a reader.
I never find you harsh, Fern. That’s like sandpaper on skin. I find you direct and emotionally composed.
As you are a dear friend, I am breaking my promise of silence. Your tease to me today was tempting but NO. I won't be back until I finish several other matters. Today's juicy subjects from Heather and comments will take me long enough to absorb and think about. This break from the forum will give me time not only to take care of business but learn more from the comments by you and others. My spirit and affection will follow your lead.