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Being that my husband is a Vietnam Vet, I am very angry but not surprised, at those senators! They have never been to sent to a war zone, obviously. Did you see how they were high-fiving each other when they smashed PACT? Happily dancing around like they won the lottery. They are REVOLTING and despicable. I cannot stand them! All we need to do is turn 2 Senate seats and get more seats in the House so that we make Manchenema worthless. We must make that happen.

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Marlene

As an XMarine Sgt from that era, I can say we will prevail. The populist tide is with us. I am trying to get them to recognize my blood disorder from Camp Lejeune. I hope your husband is ok. We are still an ornery bunch.

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What bothers me is a belief that they knew the water was bad much earlier and didn't tell us. My son was born at the old Camp Lejeune hospital in 1980. I remember specific instructions not to use the local water for his oatmeal. I had a miscarriage at Camp Lejeune in 1982, at 4 months pregnant. It was emotionally traumatic. The ads on TV say miscarriage is one of the possible injuries. How could the connection ever be made this many years later? Money could never compensate for that trauma.

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Kelly;

I am not sure you have to prove much of anything other than you were stationed there and a miscarriage. However you are right, the money will never change things for you and the loss of a child. There is no compensation they can pay you for this and deliberate neglect.

It is a cold negotiation and will conjure up memories.

We lost one in the nineties. I remember rushing her to the hospital, sitting with the doctor afterwards and his explanation, and then her tears and the feeling of guilt. We were in our early thirties.

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Going after the "compensation" is a double-edged sword. It will open up all those memories/that period of time/that trauma, and it will never, never bring your child back. That said, it is also a small, tiny way for them to acknowledge their gross misconduct. Do what is right for you.

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And PERHAPS learn from their mistakes.

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That…will never happen’

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Kelly, I have heard similar stories of miscarriages happening there. My heart is with you and all of the others who have suffered at by the enemy from within.

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"Thank you for your service"? A meaningless phrase in those senatorial mouths.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Next to ‘thoughts and prayers’ in emptiness,

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They never meant it, just damn, I’m glad I didn’t have to go.

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(Sssh...bone spurs...ssh)

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“On behalf of an ungrateful minority” -Mitch McConnell

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Hey, Bill. Over here in Virginia, we are being "flooded" with ads about Camp Lejeune, encouraging people to contact them for help. I'm sure you are connected, but here is a link from the VA. Blessings to you and yours.

https://www.va.gov/disability/eligibility/hazardous-materials-exposure/camp-lejeune-water-contamination/

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We here in Washington state are also being flooded with those ads. I see them on several cable channels. You did your duty. Have no reservations about forcing the government to do its.

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Yes, we are getting them also, in CA. Put those claims in! Bombard them relentlessly.

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Ads are numerous on tv here in CA both on broadcast channels and CNN/MSNBC.

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Here too in Indiana.

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Thank you

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I once asked an active duty Marine officer ‘what does one call a person who served as a Marine?’ He looked at me and said ‘a Marine’! Bill, no need for the ‘x’, you belong to a proud brotherhood!

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My brother was a marine. Too young for Vietnam (I’m thankful for that)but felt the anger that was bestowed on the military after the war. He says, once a marine, always a marine. Still proud to have served! No such thing as an X marine😉

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Louis:

The funny thing is the Corp not being used to having 19 year olds who read, read Katherine Ann Porter, Stevenson, Twain, Roth, Catton, Michener, Hugo, etc. I had my own little library sent to me by my first English Prof. (James Friend) who introduced me to other authors such as Porter, Roth, etc. I could escape in these books for a while.

Some officers like when you can converse with them. Others do not.

Another English Prof. I had when I was obtaining my first BA was instrumental also. I was in my last quarter of a three-year sprint to finish a BA while working as a maintenance man at a home for the elderly (they would always talk to us when we were in the field cutting grass, or fixing things). Digressing , , ,

They were not offering the writing course I needed. Off to the head of department in this Lasallian college. We talked and he told me, I could take independent study with him with one condition.

"If I did not do the work I was given and attend his conferences, he would fail me."

Best course, I had ever taken in college. The Japanese, Koreans, Germans who I worked for from time to time and others had me writing business letters for them. What does this have to do with the Corp? Very little other than funding my initial education and giving me the will power to achieve the objective.

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Good for you! I am sure your reading and subsequent thoughts and application contributed to the service you provided, even to other Marines. In all fields there are higher ranking individuals who feel threatened by others with more (different) knowledge. In time, with encouragement, they mature (or retire).

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‘Giving me the will power…’! That is a big give!

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

And sisterhood. I once introduced my mother, a WWII USMC veteran, as an ex-Marine. She drew herself up to her full 5'2" and said decisively, "There's no such thing as an ex-Marine!"

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That is funny.

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She didn't think so!

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Bill, I’m sorry. And Thank You.

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Irenie:

I am sitting here writing you all, soon to be 74. I think I am at least good for another decade. No worries, no apologies, no sorry allowed. Thank you though.

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Ornery is survival, persist…

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Yes, y’all are an ornery bunch for sure! :)

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Thank you for your service, sorry for your struggles and we, as a people, owe you a great deal more than basic medical coverage. That you struggle to get it is rank hypocrisy of the first order.

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LIT

I have good coverage through Medicare, Supplemental, Part D. I pay for my own dental and vision. It really is not about funds or a need for more healthcare which I have access to with the VA.

It is getting them to recognize the disorder. It is a battle for each of us who present ourselves.

If you looked at me, you would never know. It is just sometimes, I wake up with blood blisters in my mouth, sometime bruises, sometimes little red freckles (purpura) over my body at times. Pack a suitcase (they will keep me) and off to the hospital for IVIG and Rituxan infusions.

I am the healthy one here. There are others far more sick than I and lack resources. Fight for them.

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Thank you so much for your service. May you heal. Can you post a link where people can donate to help the vets you are trying to help? THANK YOU!

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OT: I hav always been told that there are no ex-Marines, only former Marines. I’ve asked former Marines, even former officers why that is. No one seems to know, but they all agree that that’s the case.

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The Marines I have worked with and known in my life say this also. The best explanation I've heard is "that oath does not expire. I may not be wearing the uniform today, but that oath still stands."

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I am very proud and respectful of Marines (or any military veterans) who feel bound to their oath for life. And I am deeply disgusted with any Congressperson (or military veteran) whose behavior spits on our Constitution. What do you call a Senator or Representative who also took an oath to America and its citizens, but who not only looks the other way when an American president repeatedly violates our Constitution, but helps aid and cover up that president's lies, lawbreaking and aggressive attempts to rip our 246 year old government to shreds? None of these despicable power-hungry phonies should be allowed to enter our Capital again. They should be shamed relentlessly and voted out of office. Thank you, honorable current and former members of the armed services for your bravery and courage. You help make America strong. We are in your debt. I hope you get the support you need and deserve from our government very soon. Anything less is a stain on America.

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I feel the same re: the Oath I took (several times) as a peace officer. Retired since 2004 but never see myself free of the Oath (or standard of Conduct).

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Thank you for your service. GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND EVERYONE WHO SERVES.

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Same here, Rusty. Retired 9 years ago tomorrow. My retirement cars expires 12/31/2099. My oath is good through that date.

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I love that expiration date! I should live so long (ha ha). My service was all done in California. When I signed the final retirement papers I learned the actuaries charted my life expectancy to be 5 years after retirement (job-related stress). It's been 18.5 years to date. I figure I am finally collecting on some of the unpaid overtime I put in. Took the Oath 5 times - 3 behind a badge/2 for elected office. Never had a problem taking or meaning it. Perhaps our disgust with certain people is because we saw it as more than a requirement to a paycheck.

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If a young person demonstrates the physical and mental properties, makes it thru Basic training, maybe becomes a SEAL, then launches off with a serious respect for authority. Training and exercises, often with foreign special forces continues. Those that can 'cut it' earn an Honorable discharge. But, for them, 'the Mission' isn't over. It's a bond like no other they share

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In my experience, it's always been, "Once a Marine, always a Marine."

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Yessir! These fine young men want to be part of something. The becoming of a Marine is a challenge they have put to themselves. And, only a Marine can stake claim to being one.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Thank you for your service, Bill. And ornery is what makes patients in get what they need. You are right, the tide is with you and creating a huge wave of support.

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Watching Cruz and Hawley high-five each other and do fist-bumps with others of the scumbags was the single most disgusting thing I have seen Republicans do.

"Don't cross or we'll hurt people."

I have finally figured out who Hawley reminds me of: Burke, the evil yuppie played by Paul Reiser in "Aliens." Hopefully he can meet a similar fate.

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Both these guys always manage to look extra disgusting. It's the arrogance. The let them eat cake crowd,

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Perhaps we should take a close look at Harvard?

That “educational” entity sure seems to produce some lowlife privileged types.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Please, let’s not blame college educators for the right wing extremism and arrogance of these men. Let’s hope someone uses a video of their disgusting behavior for a major ad for the midterms. Ask voters if this is how they want our troops to be treated.

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That is what I wish would happen, that the DNC would make a video of that behaviour and a laundry list of other things Republicans have officially gone on the record as being against, and show it in all markets NATIONALLY. Call them out for their reprehensible stances and tie every single GOP candidate in every race across the board to these reprobates in Congress and their Large Orange God. RNC-funded ads here in Georgia are playing constantly, spreading lie after lie. Time to take off the gloves and fight!

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Sounds like a possible Lincoln Project initiative!

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Amen, Bruce!

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Love this. Exactly what they do to Dems. And the Dems have 10x the material! How is it the right wing media is losing its mind over "Biden lying about the recession" - without irony - as Trump and his minions continue to insist, without any evidence, that they won the election?

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Every district across the country needs to message this disgusting behavior of celebration after smashing the PACT bill. This not only hurts our brave veterans but also our first responders. Schumer should bring this bill up for a vote every single day to shine a light on those republikkkans who vote against it.

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Love this.

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Harvard, alma mater of HCR and lots of other good people. Good and bad everywhere, meaning don't paint with too broad a stroke.

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So true, dear Ellie. Many thanks for reminding.

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Mike, the woman who writes Letters from an American received her formal education and Doctorate from Harvard. 😉

However their Law School has most certainly produced a questionable crop

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Those lawyers know exactly what they are doing. It is shameful.

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Always privileged, but lowlifes took greed and power to new heights.

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$41 billion spent during elections cycles now. Compare that to pre 2010, Citizens United, the same total was in the 100s of millions. It’s about the money, the most bang for the buck. The more outlandish the demagoguery, the more ‘free’ media coverage one gets.

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Karma is coming for those two....hubris is not a good idea here.

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The fact that Cruz and Hawley high-fived and fist-bumped about stiffing veterans out of service-related medical care anywhere where they could be filmed doing it not only proves their moral depravity. It also demonstrates they are so self-involved that they are incapable of managing their image. I hope the Lincoln Project is right now making an ad to play in TX and MO showing their happy dance, with a voiceover like “Here’s your Senator celebrating after he helped kill a bill to give veterans better healthcare. Still want this guy representing you in the Senate when he doesn’t give a damn about you?”

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That would be excellent Elizabeth.

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Yes!!!

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TC Cancun Cruz and ‘Raised Fist and then ‘running out of the Capitol Building’ Hawley are fitting compadres to Bone Spur Donald. I and many many others who have served their country in the trenches abhor those who, from their air-conditioned fox holes, denigrate those who have served.

Trump set the tone with his attacks on John McCain and on the non-white parents of a soldier who lost his life serving our country. Cruz, Hawley, and other jackals are singing the same despicable song.

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Sadly, far too many of your comrades at arms do not seem to care; I have one friend (Vietnam Vet, Agent Orange exposure victim) who still argues that what they are doing is right for America. I have yet to engage him on the PACT debacle. I will be interested in what spin he puts on it.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

It must be quite hard for the abused and forgotten to acknowledge such a fact, maybe more so for those that took an oath and were placed in harms way in service to their country. “It is hard to resist lies that for which one has already killed for.”- Tim Snyder.

Probably best to bring them slowly to awareness.

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When you find out, will you let us know?

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An embarrassment to all sensible people living in MO. I just returned from my first visit to Niagara Falls Canada. One of the waiters we had asked where we were from, we said Missouri. He said he was in Washington DC once and met Claire McCaskill. She was so nice and spent quite a bit of time with them. We said how much we loved her and sorry she’d been beaten. He then whispered, so were on the same page? We assured him we were. He proceeded to do the “Hawley sprint” next to our table! We laughed and laughed! It occurred to me just how important what happens in the US has to do with other countries, especially our neighbors to the north and south. But what a hoot, this Canadian running like a chicken in the restaurant!

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Missouri voters did themselves no good to/for themselves when they failed to re-elect Claire. For a state with the motto "Show Me" - I sure hope they feel sufficiently "shown" who and what Hawley is. Such creatures so not belong in government at any level. Under a large rock seems more his appropriate place of residence.

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Spite as a political strategy made worse by the high fives. That is as amazing as the vote. And yes, veterans are noticing. Our veteran cousin in Rapid City posted a memory of her brother who served in Viet Nam and has been on this ever since the vote thumping her senators including Thune who recently spoke at the VFW. As for Cancun and Haul Ass, they have shown themselves to be utter cowards when the going gets tough. As an aside, I saw a post from my ex-classmate in Indiana which extolled the military service of DeSantis and the "great" things he has done for Florida, clearing pushing him as a possible candidate. I didn't let this one pass and noted that military service does not always indicate fitness for public office and government service and mentioned Flynn as an example. No response from her yet, but two people liked it.

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Thank you for speaking out against DeSantis. Murdoch is clearly pushing him via his WSJ, Washington Examiner, and FOX. DeSantis is 10 times more evil than TFG; also smarter and more clearly spoken. A terrifying guy.

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The post was from a person who said she wouldn't like to be educated like me, but I keep trying. I despise DeSantis and I agree with your description.

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I am hoping TFG runs in 2024. Something I couldn't even imagine saying in my lifetime.

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I am eating breakfast and may have to take a deep breath.

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“Haul Ass” made me burst out laughing. Thank you 😂

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I think I picked that up from someone here this week. But it certainly fits.

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I firmly believe Flynn should be called back into service just long enugh to court martial him and remove his rank and pension. To think that a former General in our military should be involved and instumental in formulating an attemted coup is beyond contempt.

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I am all for this as are many people I know. He is a traitor.

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There is a strong "mental illness" vibe coming from him. He's irrational at the very least, and possibly delusional.

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He certainly has a problem. What bothers me is that he is a traitor and is running around speaking to people.

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Michele, I hope your response to your former classmate, in re: not wanting to be educated like you, was something like “well, that’s obvious.” Petty, yes, but still appropriate. 😉👍🏻

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Oh, I was polite and I told her that I was against racism from age 7 and that I would feel the same without all the education. It does help me to understand how things are and come to be. She like to pretend that there is no systemic racism for example. Her best shot and the one that tested my ability to be polite was the meme (not original with her, but some "Christian" wing nut) which said that the fires here in the West were because God was punishing us because some atheist in CA waved a sign. What she found out is that a lot of the people who suffered losses in the fires were rural and Rs and often "Christians" just like her. She did back off and tried to tell me that she posted it to show how wrong it was. She had her fingers crossed on that one.

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Well, since Joshy-boy is so worried about his "manhood" that he is going to share the podium this weekend with monster trucks--not the usual locale for this effete Cat-lick schoolboy--it is unsurprising in the least that he along with the other chicken hawks are using the health of veterans as hostages to Rethuglican fortune. I, personally, would love to slap him silly.

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Great timing for the book....Manhood. LOL.

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I’m with you.

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Regretfully I share that hope. It's hard not to feel hatred, which diminishes the hater. Cold indifference? "I strove with none, for none was worth my strife." The equanimity of small-j justice.

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Indifference has been the “strategy” for decades, requires less energy, but current evil requires what strife I have left at my age. To paraphrase somebody. If not now, when?

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And in the same paraphrase, "If not me, who?" and I'll follow suit with "More in sorrow than in anger".

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Pukefying, needed a new word for the actions of proud vermin.

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I'll try to remember that one Jeri. I used to say I had Trump Tourrettes Syndrome when all this craziness started because I couldn't look at him or hear his voice without shouting out obscenities. I mean no disrespect to anyone that has Tourettes Syndrome. It's the closest thing that came to mind.

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If I had a penny for every time I have screamed at my TV when I saw his insipid face, I’d be wealthy beyond measure.

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I hear you, both in the urge to scream profanity and in the knowledge that Tourette's Syndrome is a terrible malady to have.

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Or a baseball bat to the face as he snuggly exits the capitol where he gave his despicable raised fist to the insurrectionists, it would help focus his mind, if he has one, to try eating without any teeth.

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Then again the former looser in chief might like it that he has no teeth when he is on his knees in front of him.

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I could say "yes!" to all of this for him.

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TC, It was difficult to see it from beginning to end. Cruz, Hawley, Mitchell et al., cause misery and early deaths, then show up at our gravesites to cheer their achievement.

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They all make me puke.

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OMG! I almost spit out my coffee! You are so right!

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You are right - this was a bit of a "cake topper" moment. Unbelievable.

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I found Stewart’s rant on Twitter last night - epic!!!! Absolutely rakes Cruz over the coals.

Veterans need and deserve our help. Visit burnout360.org for more information.

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senator worthless has an answering line full of messages angry once again .... I believe that he does things just to get his name in the paper.

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If getting his name in the paper is his objective, an Obituary serves the same purpose.

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He still thinks I can be converted to a supporter, not in this lifetime. Jon does equal national hero, but betcha Rupert is demeaning him as we post.

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Marlene, Revolting and Despicable only begin to describe those who blocked PACT. Thank your husband and all who sacrificed for this country. I am so sorry. I was in Vietnam in 2007 for a month long college course and witnessed the jungles, the tunnels, the air bases, Halong Bay. Mi Lai. Stone Mountain. And people limping and on crutches. Warnings for leftover land mines. People living in poverty as well as those few who profited. Most of the country was destroyed. The Vietnamese call the war the American War. And our country as we believed it to be JUST, was also close to being destroyed. VN Soldiers and those who have fought in wars since are now living with the disabilities and diseases from those Wars. Agent Orange exposure and cancers. PTSD. Missing limbs. Broken families. Now to NOT care for the men and women, many so young and drafted, is shocking. Repubs and Dems have sent our people to War. It’s unconscionable to Vote Against PACT. Where is the answer to Why for a NO vote? War Never Ends.

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We were duped and so were the soldiers from that time. Here I was in DC marching against the war, burning my bra, etc. when I met my husband. He had only been out of Nam and the service for about 4 months. Our daughters saw him go through a breakdown when they were young. He had no control over his emotions as this came on suddenly. They say PTSD is triggered by something, anything that is an experience one has gone through. Unfortunately, as I later found out, there were many experiences he endured. He had been in the Mekong Delta. Nowhere in Nam, for a US serviceman was safe. We caused that war and for what? Greed.

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Yes. Marlene, a war started on lies. We protested and then the choices were to hope the draft number wasn’t drawn, to show up and go, to enlist, or to stay in school or have a family. To walk across the border to Canada. Those were not choices. Yes, nowhere in Vietnam was safe for a soldier. Nowhere.

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Oh Marlene... so very sorry. Suffering of war vets and their families is just awful. That horrible mess in Vietnam was all such a disgrace and yes, for what??? Greed and paranoia and more greed.

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Wars don't end; they come home, and it's the women and children who fight them, too. (and now, sometimes male partners of the women who served) It's a very long road -- filled with landmines -- "to make it home from the war."

I met a man-- a while back now-- who finally started getting help at the Brooklyn VA more than 50 years after the end of WW 11. He had a very successful life but said, "I never knew where the anger came from." Finally, with help he understood and his PTSD began to ebb. He said that understanding his anger made it possible for him to be a better grandfather to his grandchildren than he'd been to his kids.

There's an excellent book-- Vietnam Wives --- that you might be able to find online on a used book site.

Wishing you, your husband, and family, healing and peace, whenever and however it comes.

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Would also recommend: "Achilles in Viet Nam" by Jonathan Shay, MD, PhD. Painful but insightful read.

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Have that book, also. Thanks

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I read that book years ago and it was very helpful. I also was in a Vietnam Wives group for 12 years. Then it came to an end. I am now back in a wonderful Partners Support group through the Oakland veterans support center. It is excellently run by a young female facilitator who “gets” us. My two daughters have suffered panic attacks and depression. They are now in their 30’s and have their own psychiatrists and therapists. It isn’t easy living with a vet who were responsible to seek and destroy anything that got (get) in their way. My husband cringes at the word “VA”. He hates them so much. But thank you, Laura, so much for your very kind words.

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You are a blessing…widow of a Major/USMC…

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Wow, thanks for this recommendation, Laura!

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Based on lies that I hang around McNamara’s neck, perpetuated by the evil deal Dickie made with Anna Chennault before 1968 election. Details that came to light later in NYT article by Peter Baker, Jan 2, 2017. No need to wonder why they got no attention at that time, and even to this day.

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What a tool McNamara was!! Dickie as in Dick-the-real-president-who hid-in-the WH-bunker Cheney?

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Whoaaaa.. Communism! Were fighting "communism". Meanwhile, the USA was being quietly infiltrated by "agents" whose mission was to de-stabilize Democracy. These Agents came out of the Soviet Union. And, just as todays "Letter from an American" informs us what "latest" documents have now made public, that America has been under siege since before 1930. And by whom? Russia. Agents have infiltrated into positions of prominence, where they secretly pursued their mission of seeding discord which we was attributed mainly to Democrats or the media. They (USSR) are following a playbook and the ReDubLickens can't see the forest for the trees.

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Hang tough, Marlene and husband of Marlene. I have to believe that PACT will be revisited soon. There are just too many who won't let it be ignored.

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Persist and prevail

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My husband was a V Vet destroyed in part by agent orange. He received “some” $ from class action but years after a life of alcoholism, death of his child from birth defects, homelessness and paranoia… then suicide! The draft…his low number & left college for a semester… bingo. He is now buried next to his 3 brothers…all vets. What political fodder the republicans create for those who gave their lives willingly or not? ..But Did!

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How sad, and multiplied many times over. My brother was in the Navy (actually part of NSA which he couldn’t talk about for many years) and was in those tunnels, which caused or exacerbated his claustrophobia. I’m sure it all contributed to his 4 marriages and 3 divorces, as well as his burning anger against all politicians, especially democrats…(where Nixon fits in I’m not sure)

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Vietnam had been occupied by the French for a very long time. JFK had our armed services there to thwart any efforts for North Korea and China to take it over, so it started with him. But, it definitely escalated with Nixon and the liar, Gen. Westmoreland. All of Congress was lied to but those in the “know” profited from all off the black market there. There are truly disgusting abhorrent people in this nation.

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Linda, my heart is attached to yours. Hard not to be angry. Very few of us are truly consoled. Grateful, however, for Kinzinger’s military experience and level-headedness. I pray he somehow stays in politics but just not on the Pro-Rape Party side.

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I read most replies with analytical stoicism. And then I got to yours, Libbey, and the tears started to flow. I am so sorry for your family’s losses and pain, and I know you speak for many with what you write here. I am so sorry.

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Sending you respect and kindness...

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Republicans have pissed off 2 very significant constituencies...women and veterans. Add to that the dissatisfaction over Republicans' inaction on anything gun-related or climate change and America will be voting for Democrats in the mid-terms. But, the redrawing of district boundaries may counter a lot of our sentiment, and intimidation tactics like Florida's special voting police, disinformation and outright lies, and other strategies may ultimately sway results to the Republicans unless Democrats and Independents adopt a very active attitude and promote our constructive agenda. There as been no Republican bill since 1980 that has benefitted average Americans, and we need to make sure every citizen knows that.

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Gee, I love this kind of talk...thanks, Bob!

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What you write here is so important. This is what keeps me up at night.

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The maturity of five-year-olds. How did they get into the Senate? Don't answer that, we're sickened enough already.

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Money

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Sometimes I think the absurd candidates and Congress members from the fringe Republicans were encouraged and backed by the Russian disrupters. How else to explain how they got so far? Our own knuckle-brained citizens?

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A very able secret network in operation since 2014, according to the latest revelation. Not RussiaRussiaRussia, of course - Truth Antisocial said so, repeatedly. That sinking feeling we all experienced on election night, the disbelief, the premonition of horror, wasn't wrong.

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Thought I'd faint when I saw them High Five each other. They are truly disgusting Cretans. Sorry should not insult Cretans

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While I agree those Republican senators were (usually are) revolting and despicable, voter need to elect more than 2 more Democrats to the U.S. Senate. Agreed - we can not trust Senators Manchin and Sinema but we can not just think in terms of 2 new senators to off set them. Should those 2 decide to vote with the Republicans we would be in no better position than we are now if adding only 2. We, the voters, need to send 4, 6, as many more Democrats to the Senate as we can AND hold on to the ones there now. The same is true of the House where, currently, there is only a 4 point difference. This is not just a Democrat v Republican issue. This is a democracy v autocratic (think fascism) issue for the entire country.

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Yes, of course…I want to see more than teo seats overturned also. We have to keep the House also because who wants Qevin McQarthy as Speaker?!

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That was particularly disgusting, and it confirms my suspicion that the Republicans do not know or care how their actions and inactions play out in the real world because none of them live here. I've got an ongoing fantasy of the U.S. electorate playing Hercules and cleaning out the Augean stables.

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Like, draining the swamp, sort of? :)

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I've got nothing against swamps. Swamps are home to valuable wildlife. As a former horsegirl, however, I don't like the idea of horses having to live in a stable stacked to the rafters with manure. (I should note that manure is much more useful than what the Republicans are, uh, excreting.)

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“Manchenema” — brilliant, Marlene.

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Marlene, please thank your husband for his service. And to you, thank you for the support you have given your vet. Your words speak volumes to me.

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Maybe I know your husband. I am an RVN vet and draftee. In Long Binh at USARV HQ, (us army republic of vietnam headquarters)there were a lot of O4s and above, making money hand over fist. They had nothing to complain about. In fact, all the officers did well. So, my outfit, the complaining corp, was mostly EM with a lot of Senior NCOs. I cannot say anything bad about the VA. Maybe they should keep a bullet for your husband to bite on.

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Every time I have had to deal with @#$#@#!! Kaiser for my partner, I get down on my knees and thank god for the VA. And @#$%##@!! Kaiser is supposed to be the best private health care, proving how fcked we are.

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Thanks, I needed that.

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Thank your family and your husband for his service. Absolutely repulsive.

Please think about "how do we get the Dems back on top in the polls?" The best revenge is WINNING.

Your struggles will get the attention and treatment they deserve only if Dems WIN. And to do that we need to focus on rational and sane policies that help the middle class.

There are no so many mistakes on the right that if Dems could just rally around a rational energy policy and get gasoline below $3 (without a terrible recession) there would indeed be a massive "blue wave" IMHO.

But until we embrace basic economics of energy policy, the Dems position will remain deeply challenged. They are polling to lose with shocking consistency. It is TRAGIC that treating veterans with the respect and care they deserve is down to stuff like this, but that is the extremity of our political system. Spite vs. what is right.

Hopefully we are pragmatic and taking it to the teeth of the folks who moved against the very veterans they claim to support.

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I saw comments on a post that the Repubs didn't vote for it because there were things they didn't like attached to the bill....and are blaming Democrats for spending....not sure what the comment was but I am sure it was propaganda.

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Sharon:

Dems changed it to mandatory spending from discretionary spending. In other words, no VA funds may be used elsewhere. What Repubs are whining about is there can be additional discretionary funding available for other priorities Dems have been attempting to do and are being blocked.

Here is the way Toomey worded it: "Congress Must Protect Veterans Care Bill from Being Used as Vehicle for Massive Unrelated Spending Binge."

Any other spending which may occur is completely unrelated to the VA bill. It is a lie that it would have "ANY" impact on the VA bill. I hope people remember what the Repubs keep doing to them.

And there are other issues the spending could be used for such as aid for children which is expiring this year.

Manchin wanted more revenue in the bill which will come from a minimum tax on the higher incomes. He agreed to this. Now I wonder if this is a ploy as Sinema may vote no to this alone. Manchin will insist on more revenue. If Sinema votes no than Manchin is off the hook. He can say "I tried. Others disagreed."

We are still not to the goal.

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Once again, there is evidence that Russian operatives worked to sow division in the US to undermine democracy. Based on this new evidence, I believe that the Justice Department needs to investigate the trip taken by six senators and one congressman to Russia in July, 2018. https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/msna1119676

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Very disturbing. Thank you for the link, Mary. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these Putin-loving Republican Senators are in the DOJ's crosshairs. I'm more than tired of spoiled, do-nothing, immoral Republican politicians and spoiled Fox News purveyors of misinformation like Tucker Carlson who have more hair than brains, trying to turn America into a dictatorship. The whole lot of them should just move to Russia or Hungary. I am certain we could raise the money for a one way ticket for every last one of them faster than you can say "traitor."

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Their actions scream traitor loud and clear

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Good idea. I’ll donate to that worthy cause!

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

C C, yes let’s send em packin!

Your “… more hair than brains…” hits the mark! My (bald for decades) father has long said “don’t trust a man with too much hair.” Not always the case, but definitely true for brainless monster F’r Carlson.

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Yes. This is one of those odd, seemingly forgotten events from the Trump era. I think of it every time I see that smarmy Ron Johnson on TV.

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Absolutely, Mary!! Haul them in and make them answer questions under oath. What did they talk about and why? (I remain astonished and furious that Trump was allowed to have a private, unrecorded session with Putin!!

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We all know there is a cancer in the Republican party. When will the republican voters, who don’t recognize the cancer in their own party, wake up.

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Oh please, Kay Granger needs to answer some inquiries

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While James Comey made sure to publicize Hillary Clinton's emails (nothing new there), he somehow forgot to mention the years-long Russian manipulation of American political leaders, organizations, and voters. Where were the FBI and the CIA while this was going on? Were there - and are there still - extremists/fanatics in those organizations who admire Russia, wanted Trump, and are still hard at work deleting texts? Hillary Clinton's warnings about right-wing forces undermining our country were spot-on.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

I admire Biden for not doing a wholesale laundering of all Trump appointees in the government in his first year. But as we see the corruption in the head of the Secret Service, the Inspector General of DHS and other Trump appointees, I think it's time to sweep out the rest of the dangerous riff-raff before they do any further harm.

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It appears most of us, including Biden, have been way too trusting about the good intentions of others. Decent people tend to assume decency in others.

"Dangerous riff-raff" is so much kinder than my usual label, "#&%#! scumbags."

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Perhaps we just don't want to believe that the way of life we are accustomed to could really be taken away; yet it's happened many times in many places.

If we are really wanting to do the self-governing society thing, we receive a share of responsibility for our society's fate, as well as a share of choice. We can' be too passive and still expect a pleasing result.

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The warnings were all there, maybe it was Bill Moyers who kept the issue alive for me. Had to wonder if anybody else tuned in…

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This.

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It is time to be pragmatic and focus on US energy policy and get gasoline prices down. Unless gas is < $3 without a massive recession, Democrats and moderate politicians will get crushed in upcoming elections.

This is not complicated. The data is clear: inflation destroys politicians. And right now posts like this continue to attack US energy companies while focusing on "high minded" issues around democracy and freedom. While I am in emphatic agreement on the need to preserve our democracy (!!!) we must be deadly pragmatic about this.

Look at the page below. One page. Absolutely crucifies the Dems. PLEASE DEMOCRATS - EMBRACE SIMPLE POLICIES THAT WILL STOP ALIENATING THE VAST SWATH OF MODERATES AND INDIE VOTERS......

https://gop-waysandmeans.house.gov/democrats-war-on-energy-includes-145-billion-in-taxes-on-american-energy-companies-workers-and-consumers/

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These are talking points from Brady in the 8th District, Texas. Not the findings or opinions among members or recommendations of the subcommittee. Does it matter that Brady provides no evidence for the "possible consequences" he has declared? Understand getting tough, but .... I did not that almost none of the links to the committee work, except to Brady's pages.

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I'm sorry Fred - I'm confused. What does this have to do with Texas? And what links - do you mean in the GOP page? As a reminder....these are not exactly source checking folks lol

Thanks for your patience!

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I'm sure President Biden knew there were a lot of fascist Trump-roaches scurrying around the various federal departments in D. C. when he arrived. I'm guessing that Biden did not immediately broom out all the Trump vermin to deliberately show Americans how democracy is supposed to work. A noble experiment that must now end for the sake of not only our democracy, but the safety of Biden's family and members of his administration.

Thank you, Laurie, for noting my linguistic restraint. And thank you for being the catalyst to send me to the dictionary to retrieve the word for your much more accurate "grawlix." By the way, I found a few synonyms for "grawlix," but my favorite by far is "obscenicons."

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I had no idea there was a word for all those #&%#!. I love 'grawlix!' Thanks for adding to my vocabulary, CC. I also like "Trump vermin." Well said.

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Yep, not printable here

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I wonder if Biden is a bit too naive. Trump required loyalty from those who worked for him; therefore, all of his appointees should go. That includes Wray (and dare I say, three SC justices!

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Past time

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It is time to be pragmatic and focus on US energy policy and get gasoline prices down. Unless gas is < $3 without a massive recession, Democrats and moderate politicians will get crushed in upcoming elections. This is not complicated. The data is clear: inflation destroys politicians. And right now posts like this continue to attack US energy companies while focusing on "high minded" issues around democracy and freedom. While I am in emphatic agreement on the need to preserve our democracy (!!!) we must be deadly pragmatic about this.

Look at the page below. One page. Absolutely crucifies the Dems. PLEASE DEMOCRATS - EMBRACE SIMPLE POLICIES THAT WILL STOP ALIENATING THE VAST SWATH OF MODERATES AND INDIE VOTERS......

https://gop-waysandmeans.house.gov/democrats-war-on-energy-includes-145-billion-in-taxes-on-american-energy-companies-workers-and-consumers/

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She warned all of us, yet the misogynists and the snipping of, not only Fox, but our MSM drowned her out. My sense of foreboding has never subsided…

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Corruption seems to be at every orifice of our government.

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Corruption, which I think of as abuse of entrusted power seems so often to be motivated and enabled by misuse of money, bribery, de facto bribery, hire of specialists in treachery, domination of communications media, etc.

Bribery and treason are the two high crimes that the Constitution spells out as grounds for which all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction. What if you don't call it a bribe, but it has the same effect?

Plutocratic money has been buying or reinforcing plutocratic policies for over 40 years, probably from pretty much from the dawn of civilization really; but after many successful attempts to bolster democracy and blunt the influence of concentrated wealth on politics and society, we were subsequently collectively gulled into tossing much of that progress away, swayed by the worst misinformation money could buy.

And democracy has recently been on the ropes, as a result in a battle that's still ongoing.

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both” — Justice Louis Brandeis

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Marlene, Are doors now being called orifices, such as, Josh Hawley's office has two orifices?

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Of course there were and are. It is an existential clash of values. That many on the right have embraced the likes of Orban et. al. without being smashed in the polls is incredible.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Anyone who doesn't believe that capitalism needs to be regulated, I point to the grotesque profits that oil companies are wallowing in. All while millions of Americans struggle financially.

Why oh why do citizens blame the president for high gas prices in the face of what the professor details regarding the profits? People are being bilked, and the companies doing it skate scot-free.

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Why do citizens blame Biden?

1. Lack of education and poor reading skills.

2. Lack of analytical analysis capability due to 1 above.

3. Due to 1 and 2 above a dependency on preachers, Fox News and AM radio to inform what and how to think.

Each of the above contribute to what Thomas Jefferson worried and wrote about: An uneducated population unable to hold the democracy he helped create.

In summary: The problem with America is Americans.

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Agree whole heartedly except for summary. One problem with America is that some Americans decided long ago (esp after Brown v. Board of Ed) that some other Americans oughta not be educated or have good reading skills or learn how to critically analyze. And they set about making that happen. Yes, Jefferson was spot on... and here's our proof.

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Always has been the strategy in "Plantation" culture

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And that came back to bite them in the family butt. We (parent) now don't require any more of their kids to be discerning, knowledgeable, or literate than they were.

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Jul 30, 2022·edited Jul 30, 2022

Mike, Add to the reasons for Voting repub: their parents or friends or neighbors vote red. Family and neighborhood, religion, lies in the press and the proliferation of YouTube, Trash Media Fox Fake News, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Steve Bannon and TFG. There’s more. Protecting investments, not considering an obligation to help and share, be part of a social contract. Empathy and compassion in short supply. Two years of post high school service might help.

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But education is the enemy in cult country, say the Harvard educated cretins

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Sorry, I can't find the link, but Jon Stewart was telling I believe it was Ari Melber that he tried to get on Fox News so he could tell their listeners about Republicans blocking the PACT bill for vets, and Fox News refused to talk to him or air the news about the blockage. He was able to get on Newsmax. So if you are getting your news exclusively from Faux News, you aren't getting the full story. We here know this, for sure, but do they?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jon-stewart-rant-on-newsmax-against-gop-over-vet-healthcare-viewed-3m-times/ar-AA106tkn

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Rupert don’t want no truth to worry his MAGAt cult nuts

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There are plenty of well educated people who believe fantastical things because doing so makes them feel better.

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Fantasies of superiority, such power rules. Never heard of walking a mile in another’s shoes…. Or, there but for the grace of God, go I…

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Tho education helps, it's not a fail safe. Germany was a country of many well-educated people and somehow still fell to the Nazis.

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Sounds like a stereotype. There are a lot of wealthy, educated people who vote Republican and listen to the propaganda. What kind of a 'box' would you put them into?

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I think a lot of it has to do with fear. I see it all around me, many of these republicans are regular, if not devout, church goers. Conservative churches (Catholic, Evangelical, Baptist, etc.) have filled their members heads for decades with fear. Sermons in these churches don’t lift people up and encourage them, they terrorize with images of an angry and vengeful god who is watching for every minor slip up. Spend enough time being told you are worthless and persecuted, you react like a cornered animal to anything that challenges your world view. My two cents.

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I don't think it's fear of an angry god - it's fear of anyone who isn't a white, Christian heterosexual born in the U.S., fear of the "other." Republicans constantly stoke that fear and encourage people to hate anyone who isn't like them (so much for "Christian values").

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"Spend enough time being told you are worthless and persecuted, you react like a cornered animal" goes to the mental well-being of a person. And its not just church goers that have this type of experience.

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I have a long-time friend in another state who is a Repub. I don't speak with him any more because I didn't want to lose a friend. I think that he still supports trump. I thought he was a decent person with empathy, high integrity, very well educated (not at Harvard), a lawyer. What makes him like these people? I simply don't understand so I plan to speak with him to find out, since I have already lost him as a friend.

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Been there, but I know why. It’s the Rupert hatred of Dems to a great extent. Decades of vilification take a toll.

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