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Karen Williams's avatar

So powerful, and so true: "One thing that struck me about Reagan is that he was a leader that told Americans that they no longer had to have the manners they had been raised with where they would consider others, it was okay to brag and say, ME! ME! ME! That was the big psychological switch that I noticed that made him so popular. He was the guru of being self serving. The culture changed. Everyone was allowed to be selfish. "

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Roy C.'s avatar

Yes, it was a turning point towards me vs we. As Candidate Reagan replied, "there he goes again" towards President Carter's clarion calls for conservation, he cast caution to the wind.

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Bryan Sean McKown's avatar

I briefly encountered Ronnie as an Undergraduate at UCLA at a Regent`s Meeting that was declared an "Illegal Assemby" & the curtain pulled back to a thick Glass Wall revealing a '60's Tableau of students being battered back with Police Batons. Reagan? Ronnie was acting non-plussed waiting for the Director to yell, "Cut" - that's a Print.

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J L Graham's avatar

Odd to contemplate given Nixon's irresponsibility in other areas, but Nixon was forward-looking and protective of the environment. Protection of the global environment as antithetical to the official Republican notion of "freedom" began with Reagan.

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Karen Hessel's avatar

Karen Hessel

Yes and folks tend to BLAME US BOOMERS, yet it was the conservatives who were self centered, and many of us rejected those values in favor of justice and peace. Why we were accused of being spoiled and self centered never made any sense, we boomers have always been a divided generation, over civil rights, justice for women and war (Vietnam) et al. So stop blaming us. It was the other part of our generation that messed things up the Gingriches and his gang of cronies. Lindsey Graham etc.

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J L Graham's avatar

Generational blaming is not very useful since ultimately a society is a whole, as in the end, is our species; and there is always a need for nuance. The bigger issue is the degree to which our society always has, and since Reagan even more so, pandered to the agendas of those with money. The young are not wrong that they are getting the short end of the stick, especially as living wages, and worker protections ebb, college graduation is both more demanded for decent paying jobs, and the price become more personally burdensome, and the planet burns while so many old folks fiddle.

Warnings of the dangers of CO2 pollution have been sounded for decades. Both Nixon and Carter advocated care of the environment; but enough Americans turned our backs, and each of our impacts accumulate to the point, that the future is not looking good.

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Hope Lindsay's avatar

OMG, I remember everybody, men included, wearing gold necklaces to advertise their new wealth and self-love!

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J L Graham's avatar

I don't think narcissism has much to do with love, but I suppose that what you love is what you care about, so yeah. Narcissism is good for profit, and a nation that reveres profit uber alles abandons the urge for a civilized society. Trump personifies malignant narcissism, and that is what he and his party now sell.

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J L Graham's avatar

The troublesome secret of a just and democratic society is its need of discipline and effort. Of liberty is that for the word to have meaning outside the realm of a hermit, we must maintain it together. Liberty and Justice for all means respecting your identical rights; no rape, no polluting the well. Liberty means nothing without diversity (no?) and diversity means inevitable conflicts in good faith. Who get to drive across the intersection first? We have to agree to a common good.

But that's work.; sometimes emotional work, often mental and physical. And seemingly easier solutions are always an easy sell. "Just be selfish" has a certain appeal. "Greed is Good" was a line in a cautionary movie, but Republicans picked it up.

In Greedland, "The only corporate social responsibility a company has is to maximize its profits." You are never to blame, and every problem is somebody else's fault. Trump personifies it, and his party enables him.

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