And in the meantime we have added so called “Jefferson State” and much of the Mid West to the equation. Why? Certainly Racism is at the top of the list along with “over regulation” by the government. In play are basic civil rights for all of us. Has anyone here ever been miffed by a sometimes seemingly ridiculous permitting process by their local government? There is usually a perfectly good reason for that tiresome and costly process. However the ordinary citizen interprets it as government over reach. At that point it is easy for the GOP to convince voters “the government is the problem.” At this point we must now all take a deep breath, choose our words carefully and keep in mind the consequences of our word and our deeds. We must also let our local governments know that their actions have far greater consequences that go way beyond our local area.
Just an fyi about racism in the south and the west and the north.
I have lived in the South, the West (for a couple of summers) and in upstate NY at various points in my own migration since I left my Texas farm in 1978.
THE MOST RACIST and SEGREGATED place I have ever resided at was, at the time, in the upstate NY area. In those towns like Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse, segregation remains, today, fully in place and rigorously supported by the white community through radio station propaganda, parental upbringing, segregated schools etc.
Whites go to school in the suburbs. Blacks in the inner city. Period.
When I was 6 years old my school, in rural East Texas de-segregated. 1966.
But, in upstate NY schools TODAY?? Schools remain fully segregated. Period.
So, the most racist places in America are in the NORTH AND MISISSIPPI. We do not need to hide from this. We need to realize this fundamental aspect of America. Trump did not just get votes in the south and west. He won many of the white suburbs in the NORTH.
It is simply NOT the case that because Abe Lincoln ably conscripted a bunch of white northernern young men who, mostly, had never even seen a black man, in order to fight the civil war, that white people in the north are not racist. Not even close to true.
Mike, you get the Truth Teller Award of the year - and all time, in my book - thank you for saying out loud what so many have swallowed whole, and now are so stricken with soul constipation, they have no idea what, or how to say!!
Well, you clearly have absorbed a depth of wisdom and insight from your experience in this life - I always appreciate your views and thank you for sharing so boldly. I am becoming progressively speechless. One of my sisters wound up in Seneca Falls. When she passed, I flew back and stayed 6 weeks - not sure I ever saw even one person who was not 'white' except for two women in her AA circle who were Native American. We took a drive to Ithaca one day - in one neighborhood, I could see some black folks - in one of the poorest neighborhoods I ever had seen. I/we have so much to learn about our own culture we do not know - isn't it audacious that we deem ourselves fit to lead anyone anywhere - we are living such a lie, ourselves.
By the way Mike, have you seen this? It looks like something you moght want to see:
So true, Mike. I’ve lived in NYS for over 35 years, but when I was canvassing this year with a black colleague and she said she would not go to certain houses alone I couldn’t blame her. 45 miles north of NYC. The racism even here is stunning.
Absolutely true. I grew up in northern Indiana in Elkhart. The county seat, Goshen, which prided itself on its Christianity, would not allow blacks to stay over night and I think the same was true in Salem, Oregon, where I live now. Black people then lived in a thin line south of the railroad in Elkhart and that's the only place they were found in Elkhart County. I saw my first racism incident in Chicago when I was about 7 or so, but had no idea that black people lived in Elkhart. I had no black classmates, and then only a few, until I reached high school. I had a friend from southern Indiana (Bedford) tell me that the racism was so thick there, that you could cut it with a knife. Both sides of my family were racist and more since they disliked anyone who wasn't exactly like them. I heard plenty of racist remarks and other biases growing up. I still hear them from time to time. We have a black owned restaurant in downtown Salem and the owners have BLM signs and also a library inside. Of course, they have been the target of local wing nut cases. They are moving shortly into a larger space, so they do have lots of support and interesting good food as well. And a side note about why I hate the 4th...someone fairly close by popped off a couple firecrackers at around 5:30 am this morning.
Medford, Oregon (my home town) was one of the last cities to stop enforcement of the Sundown Laws. Eugene, Oregon (my current place of residence for the last 38 years) had an interesting situation in the past 15 years or so. There was a "Reynolds" St. in one of the subdivisions that grew up after WWII. Out on the west edge of town (south of where this subdivision is) there was a Black community, and a Christian Methodist Episcopal Church built by local families. Sam Reynolds was the pastor there. Upon his retirement, the congregation petitioned the city to name the street "Sam Reynolds Street." The city refused, allowing the name "Sam R." St. because it would be "too confusing" to have streets with such similar names. It wasn't until 2018 that the street was named "Sam Reynolds St."
Sidebar #1: there was an arson fire there in November, 2021; no suspects or arrests to date.
Sidebar #2: Quentin Reynolds is the pastor for the other predominantly Black church in town, Bethel Temple Church. This building was built in the past 15 years, also in west Eugene, replacing a smaller church in unincorporated Glenwood, which is a curious area between the cities of Eugene and Springfield that neither city particularly wanted until the past 5 years or so. Quentin is Sam Reynolds' son.
I am interested to read your analysis, Mike. I recently moved to the Rochester, NY area. Your observations go far in explaining my disappointment in the lack of progressive action among citizens here. Effort to address is what occupies my thoughts now.
All I know about Rochester NY is that some brave women challenged in court the almost universal law about women having to cover their breasts in public and won on the grounds of equal rights. Yep, women bold enuf can legally go top free in New York the same as men.
You are right, of course. The North is no exception. NY state is like so many states. Its urban areas vote liberal usually and are the most populated, so the states seem to carry those values. But the towns and rural districts of our states are more than full of segregationist concepts. In some cases they may be more entrenched than the South. And then there is Elise Stefanik!! Aaargh.
Oregon would like a seat at that New York racist table, but I guess we are, after all, in the west, which does have its racist heritage very well established and in many places intact.
Mike, you're totally correct. A good friend, who grew up in upstate NY but has lived in Georgia for years, is constantly badgered by her cousins who live there with the worst right wing hate mail, although they know that she's a Democrat, and not a racist. I grew up in suburban Boston, and although I've lived in suburban Atlanta for over 50 years, many people I knew as a child have revealed themselves as shameless racists. I've ended these relationships because of their disgusting views. There's plenty of racism to go around in this country, but the North needn't point fingers at the South, since they have done little to remediate their own shameful filth.
Take a look at the facts folks, Following is the data that backs up Mike's assertion that '...in upstate NY schools TODAY?? Schools remain fully segregated. Period.'
'Report Shows School Segregation in New York Remains Worst in Nation'
Date Published: June 10, 2021
'A new report from the Civil Rights Project finds that New York retains its place as the most segregated state for black students, and second most segregated for Latino students, trailing only California. The report also makes clear that New York is experiencing an acceleration of demographic changes outlined in the earlier 2014 report. White students are no longer the state’s majority group as they were in 2010. the proportion of Asian students increasing sharply to more than 17% in 2018, and Latino students becoming the largest racial/ethnic group, from 35% in 1990 to 41% in 2018. Conversely, there has been a significant decline in the black student population. The new research also examines the expansion of school choice and charter schools and how they may have contributed to the continued segregation of the city’s schools. The research underscores that many in New York City are engaged in important efforts to integrate schools and there are a significant number of schools showing signs of reduced segregation.'
'A new study of school segregation shows public school districts across the Syracuse metro area are the 13th most segregated by race in the country. The Century Foundation just published new data showing the Syracuse area just behind Chicago-Evanston, Illinois and just ahead of Flint, Michigan. Newark, New Jersey and Gary, Indiana lead the list for most segregated when comparing White to Black students.'
'The study compares 200 schools that educate more than 100,000 students across Onondaga, Oswego and Madison Counties. 93.7% of the segregation is seen when comparing public school districts to each other. The highest measurement of this Segregation Index comes when a school has either all White or all Black students.'
'The Rochester area ranks 8th. The Albany-Schenectady metro area ranks 22nd in segregation between public school districts nationally.
We have previously reported on the segregation of schools in Syracuse and Onondaga County in our series of reports on The Map. "Syracuse is like many other cities in the northeast that have maintained segregation by housing, by ethnicity as we see the growth of suburbs that have become whiter and more distant from the city," explained Dr. George Theoharis of Syracuse University. "Syracuse is more segregated than it was because of issues of white flight and economic disparity. "
'Our reporting on The Map highlights the racial makeup and failing performance of Dr. Martin Luther King School in Syracuse. Attending the Dr. King school today, 121 Black students, eleven Hispanic, one Native-American, six multi-racial and one white child. Statewide, the average performance for elementary schools on English Language Arts tests for 3rd and 4th grades in 52% proficient. At Dr. King school, the ELA proficiency is 3%. Only 3 of 121 Black students scored proficient on the test, according to the most recent state data. For more than a decade, New York State labeled Dr. George Theoharis of Syracuse University. "Syracuse is more segregated than it was because of issues of white flight and economic disparity. "
I remember a year or more when we first became acquainted. Very short talks about the farm and mention of your son. It was very pleasant. You were just beginning to communicate a little bit here and there on the forum. Times have changed. You've become omnipresent. The day is very bright I hope that you and the family have a happy Monday. Cheers!
Agree. Attitudes and hate are owned by mankind and carried out in like lyrics accompanied with regional and local melodies. Or, in different languages and imbedded in culture and our traditions. The hope of our grand experiment is to alter attitudes and lyrics, not the distinctive melodies, cultures, or traditions. Sadly, I'm not sure the racism of my childhood neighborhood in NW Chicago is much different now, except for which nationalities are direct and indirect objects of the attitudes.
The racial incident I referred to at age seven was in Chicago, but further south. A black family was trying to move into a neighborhood. Much later on I did my Peace Corps training in south Chicago at George Williams College under the auspices of Roosevelt University in the middle sixties. That was quite an adventure. I did some student teaching at Wendall Phillips High School during that time. Some somewhat scary happenings, but the one that makes me smile is this one. We had the students on a field trip to the Field Museum. There were some Amish nearby and one of the students observed to me: "Look, Pilgrims".
Applies to many, many small towns as well, where nepotism is just a business model. Just follow the map of the race riots, goes right through the Midwest.
I guessed easily what a deep breat was - but look at those three dots after "Collapse" - click on them and it will say "edit". You can go in and fix whatever needs fixing, even hours later, then save. That's only on your own post, of course, you can't alter anything posted by someone else!
I never knew that until recently . At the same time white men who were allowed to Vote, lots of them signed with an X.So many couldn’t read or write. Not even their own name.
Fast forward to July 1, 2022 in the 5-way House Primary in Wyoming, the Election Denier leads by 30 points; Liz Cheney tells the voters:"The truth matters".
I think both are true; in the immediate case (and as articulated by LBJ), easily 3 generations as the 4th comes to voting age. In practice, over four centuries, especially when you fold in the second edge of the sword that created America as a dominant country in a short amount of time, that of Indigenous Genocide as it coupled with Black enslavement.
I’ve lived. In the South for 63 yrs. It’s still as Racist and has been as it was in 64 .Recently I called about a service I needed. The guy came to review my needs. He then asked if I minded a Black person coming to my house. I did not go with that service. No I don’t mind but I could not believe he asked !
What the service was actually doing was protecting the Black worker. I was asked that question in 2012 when my 88 year old father needed help from caregivers. Knowing him as I did I told the service that we were not going to put someone in a position to be disrespected. My mother was a totally different story.
I was not raised (in NC) to hate blacks, but the ‘superior attitude’ crept in through the cracks and crannies. I played with the young child of the black woman who helped my mama with washing and other chores since she worked her whole adult life in hosiery mills, while tending to her eight children. I didn’t go to school or church with Rosalee, so segregation was alive and well. But my parents respect for Rosie and her hard life must have rubbed off on me at a very young age. BTW, in the assisted living facility where I live, I am witness to a couple of arrogant residents disrespecting the aides and techs on occasion. Racism is often proud, and at the same time, denied. Quite a feat…
Maybe ? But I have had times before that and he was the first ever to ask.All I care about is their skills and a Criminal Background check no matter who you send. I was raised up North.
TC LBJ, a southerner who became a lukewarm proponent of civil rights in pushing for a moderate civil rights bill under President Ike in 1957, became the most important civil rights president in history (doubling down on Lincoln’s emancipation) in 1964/65.
This former ‘master of the Senate’ took a n unprecedented 66-day Senate filibuster before moving the civil rights bill onward. With this and the 1965 civil rights bill [which have been weakened by recent Supreme Courts] LBJ was a remarkable civil rights hero, while reflecting that this would cost the Democrats the South for a generation.
In fact, racism is a major plank in the current Trump world that is swathed in right-kind-of-whitism.
Keith we were told when Kennedy was killed that the Warren Report would be unsealed in 50 yrs. To date it has not. We have gotten a ‘ Nugget ‘ or 2 in all these yrs past. Why won’t they unseal it ? It will be 60 yrs next yr
Yes, we got the Public Report. But they stated at the time that basically not all could be revealed and at the 50yr mark what was NOT for Public to know would be.It’s sealed under lock and key. George HW Bush was the director of the CIA at the time.
If that doesn't address what you were seeking there's a big button with "Have a question about JFK Assassination Records? Ask it on HistoryHub." on the first link I posted.
"We've lost the South for a generation." Actually it's now two generations.
And in the meantime we have added so called “Jefferson State” and much of the Mid West to the equation. Why? Certainly Racism is at the top of the list along with “over regulation” by the government. In play are basic civil rights for all of us. Has anyone here ever been miffed by a sometimes seemingly ridiculous permitting process by their local government? There is usually a perfectly good reason for that tiresome and costly process. However the ordinary citizen interprets it as government over reach. At that point it is easy for the GOP to convince voters “the government is the problem.” At this point we must now all take a deep breath, choose our words carefully and keep in mind the consequences of our word and our deeds. We must also let our local governments know that their actions have far greater consequences that go way beyond our local area.
FH, TC,
Just an fyi about racism in the south and the west and the north.
I have lived in the South, the West (for a couple of summers) and in upstate NY at various points in my own migration since I left my Texas farm in 1978.
THE MOST RACIST and SEGREGATED place I have ever resided at was, at the time, in the upstate NY area. In those towns like Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse, segregation remains, today, fully in place and rigorously supported by the white community through radio station propaganda, parental upbringing, segregated schools etc.
Whites go to school in the suburbs. Blacks in the inner city. Period.
When I was 6 years old my school, in rural East Texas de-segregated. 1966.
But, in upstate NY schools TODAY?? Schools remain fully segregated. Period.
So, the most racist places in America are in the NORTH AND MISISSIPPI. We do not need to hide from this. We need to realize this fundamental aspect of America. Trump did not just get votes in the south and west. He won many of the white suburbs in the NORTH.
It is simply NOT the case that because Abe Lincoln ably conscripted a bunch of white northernern young men who, mostly, had never even seen a black man, in order to fight the civil war, that white people in the north are not racist. Not even close to true.
Mike, you get the Truth Teller Award of the year - and all time, in my book - thank you for saying out loud what so many have swallowed whole, and now are so stricken with soul constipation, they have no idea what, or how to say!!
I love the phrase soul constipation....I will be including that in my conversations. Thank you.
Same! Thank you, Kathleen!
Kathleen,
Thanks. I am lucky. I had the "opportunity" to be mixed race. So, I get to see some aspects of America through two lenses, not just one.
I can honestly say, when I lived in rural East Texas I was treated better than when I moved to upstate NY, by the white community....
Well, you clearly have absorbed a depth of wisdom and insight from your experience in this life - I always appreciate your views and thank you for sharing so boldly. I am becoming progressively speechless. One of my sisters wound up in Seneca Falls. When she passed, I flew back and stayed 6 weeks - not sure I ever saw even one person who was not 'white' except for two women in her AA circle who were Native American. We took a drive to Ithaca one day - in one neighborhood, I could see some black folks - in one of the poorest neighborhoods I ever had seen. I/we have so much to learn about our own culture we do not know - isn't it audacious that we deem ourselves fit to lead anyone anywhere - we are living such a lie, ourselves.
By the way Mike, have you seen this? It looks like something you moght want to see:
Salvatierra Farms
https://farmersfootprint.us/salvatierra-farms/
... wishing you all the best, ka
So true, Mike. I’ve lived in NYS for over 35 years, but when I was canvassing this year with a black colleague and she said she would not go to certain houses alone I couldn’t blame her. 45 miles north of NYC. The racism even here is stunning.
I honestly think open carry laws are designed to allow shooting armed black people.
... not just black people ...
And not just armed...
And not just men.
But carried by mostly white men.
Grace, yes. Connecticut is bad.
Absolutely true. I grew up in northern Indiana in Elkhart. The county seat, Goshen, which prided itself on its Christianity, would not allow blacks to stay over night and I think the same was true in Salem, Oregon, where I live now. Black people then lived in a thin line south of the railroad in Elkhart and that's the only place they were found in Elkhart County. I saw my first racism incident in Chicago when I was about 7 or so, but had no idea that black people lived in Elkhart. I had no black classmates, and then only a few, until I reached high school. I had a friend from southern Indiana (Bedford) tell me that the racism was so thick there, that you could cut it with a knife. Both sides of my family were racist and more since they disliked anyone who wasn't exactly like them. I heard plenty of racist remarks and other biases growing up. I still hear them from time to time. We have a black owned restaurant in downtown Salem and the owners have BLM signs and also a library inside. Of course, they have been the target of local wing nut cases. They are moving shortly into a larger space, so they do have lots of support and interesting good food as well. And a side note about why I hate the 4th...someone fairly close by popped off a couple firecrackers at around 5:30 am this morning.
Medford, Oregon (my home town) was one of the last cities to stop enforcement of the Sundown Laws. Eugene, Oregon (my current place of residence for the last 38 years) had an interesting situation in the past 15 years or so. There was a "Reynolds" St. in one of the subdivisions that grew up after WWII. Out on the west edge of town (south of where this subdivision is) there was a Black community, and a Christian Methodist Episcopal Church built by local families. Sam Reynolds was the pastor there. Upon his retirement, the congregation petitioned the city to name the street "Sam Reynolds Street." The city refused, allowing the name "Sam R." St. because it would be "too confusing" to have streets with such similar names. It wasn't until 2018 that the street was named "Sam Reynolds St."
Sidebar #1: there was an arson fire there in November, 2021; no suspects or arrests to date.
Sidebar #2: Quentin Reynolds is the pastor for the other predominantly Black church in town, Bethel Temple Church. This building was built in the past 15 years, also in west Eugene, replacing a smaller church in unincorporated Glenwood, which is a curious area between the cities of Eugene and Springfield that neither city particularly wanted until the past 5 years or so. Quentin is Sam Reynolds' son.
I am interested to read your analysis, Mike. I recently moved to the Rochester, NY area. Your observations go far in explaining my disappointment in the lack of progressive action among citizens here. Effort to address is what occupies my thoughts now.
Sue,
The good thing about Rochester is: Right now the weather is spectacular.
Enjoy!! And Welcome!!
All I know about Rochester NY is that some brave women challenged in court the almost universal law about women having to cover their breasts in public and won on the grounds of equal rights. Yep, women bold enuf can legally go top free in New York the same as men.
Susan B. Anthony is an icon here. Yes.
You are right, of course. The North is no exception. NY state is like so many states. Its urban areas vote liberal usually and are the most populated, so the states seem to carry those values. But the towns and rural districts of our states are more than full of segregationist concepts. In some cases they may be more entrenched than the South. And then there is Elise Stefanik!! Aaargh.
Oregon would like a seat at that New York racist table, but I guess we are, after all, in the west, which does have its racist heritage very well established and in many places intact.
Mike, you're totally correct. A good friend, who grew up in upstate NY but has lived in Georgia for years, is constantly badgered by her cousins who live there with the worst right wing hate mail, although they know that she's a Democrat, and not a racist. I grew up in suburban Boston, and although I've lived in suburban Atlanta for over 50 years, many people I knew as a child have revealed themselves as shameless racists. I've ended these relationships because of their disgusting views. There's plenty of racism to go around in this country, but the North needn't point fingers at the South, since they have done little to remediate their own shameful filth.
Take a look at the facts folks, Following is the data that backs up Mike's assertion that '...in upstate NY schools TODAY?? Schools remain fully segregated. Period.'
'Report Shows School Segregation in New York Remains Worst in Nation'
Date Published: June 10, 2021
'A new report from the Civil Rights Project finds that New York retains its place as the most segregated state for black students, and second most segregated for Latino students, trailing only California. The report also makes clear that New York is experiencing an acceleration of demographic changes outlined in the earlier 2014 report. White students are no longer the state’s majority group as they were in 2010. the proportion of Asian students increasing sharply to more than 17% in 2018, and Latino students becoming the largest racial/ethnic group, from 35% in 1990 to 41% in 2018. Conversely, there has been a significant decline in the black student population. The new research also examines the expansion of school choice and charter schools and how they may have contributed to the continued segregation of the city’s schools. The research underscores that many in New York City are engaged in important efforts to integrate schools and there are a significant number of schools showing signs of reduced segregation.'
https://www.civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/news/press-releases/2021-press-releases/report-shows-school-segregation-in-new-york-remains-worst-in-nation
'A new study of school segregation shows public school districts across the Syracuse metro area are the 13th most segregated by race in the country. The Century Foundation just published new data showing the Syracuse area just behind Chicago-Evanston, Illinois and just ahead of Flint, Michigan. Newark, New Jersey and Gary, Indiana lead the list for most segregated when comparing White to Black students.'
'The study compares 200 schools that educate more than 100,000 students across Onondaga, Oswego and Madison Counties. 93.7% of the segregation is seen when comparing public school districts to each other. The highest measurement of this Segregation Index comes when a school has either all White or all Black students.'
'The Rochester area ranks 8th. The Albany-Schenectady metro area ranks 22nd in segregation between public school districts nationally.
We have previously reported on the segregation of schools in Syracuse and Onondaga County in our series of reports on The Map. "Syracuse is like many other cities in the northeast that have maintained segregation by housing, by ethnicity as we see the growth of suburbs that have become whiter and more distant from the city," explained Dr. George Theoharis of Syracuse University. "Syracuse is more segregated than it was because of issues of white flight and economic disparity. "
'Our reporting on The Map highlights the racial makeup and failing performance of Dr. Martin Luther King School in Syracuse. Attending the Dr. King school today, 121 Black students, eleven Hispanic, one Native-American, six multi-racial and one white child. Statewide, the average performance for elementary schools on English Language Arts tests for 3rd and 4th grades in 52% proficient. At Dr. King school, the ELA proficiency is 3%. Only 3 of 121 Black students scored proficient on the test, according to the most recent state data. For more than a decade, New York State labeled Dr. George Theoharis of Syracuse University. "Syracuse is more segregated than it was because of issues of white flight and economic disparity. "
https://cnycentral.com/news/the-map-segregated-syracuse/schools-across-syracuse-area-13th-most-segregated-by-race-in-the-nation
Thanks Fern. Indeed, I would have done well to post a link to this since I was aware of it some time back, but forgot.
However, mostly, I was writing my own lived experience in comparison between Texas and NY.
My own live experience is vastly different between Texas and NY with Texas experience having been BETTER than my experience in NY.
I remember a year or more when we first became acquainted. Very short talks about the farm and mention of your son. It was very pleasant. You were just beginning to communicate a little bit here and there on the forum. Times have changed. You've become omnipresent. The day is very bright I hope that you and the family have a happy Monday. Cheers!
Trailing only CA! I wouldn't have guessed that!
Agree. Attitudes and hate are owned by mankind and carried out in like lyrics accompanied with regional and local melodies. Or, in different languages and imbedded in culture and our traditions. The hope of our grand experiment is to alter attitudes and lyrics, not the distinctive melodies, cultures, or traditions. Sadly, I'm not sure the racism of my childhood neighborhood in NW Chicago is much different now, except for which nationalities are direct and indirect objects of the attitudes.
The racial incident I referred to at age seven was in Chicago, but further south. A black family was trying to move into a neighborhood. Much later on I did my Peace Corps training in south Chicago at George Williams College under the auspices of Roosevelt University in the middle sixties. That was quite an adventure. I did some student teaching at Wendall Phillips High School during that time. Some somewhat scary happenings, but the one that makes me smile is this one. We had the students on a field trip to the Field Museum. There were some Amish nearby and one of the students observed to me: "Look, Pilgrims".
Life forming experiences to be sure. Amazes me were us progressive came from. My family thought I came from under some rock. ;)
My parents were sorely disappointed in me for several reasons.
Applies to many, many small towns as well, where nepotism is just a business model. Just follow the map of the race riots, goes right through the Midwest.
I believe it, sometimes it takes familiarity to have empathy. IF one hadn’t been actively indoctrinated…
❤️
Please excuse the spelling and grammatical errors in my above comment
I guessed easily what a deep breat was - but look at those three dots after "Collapse" - click on them and it will say "edit". You can go in and fix whatever needs fixing, even hours later, then save. That's only on your own post, of course, you can't alter anything posted by someone else!
Who knew? Thank You
The "edit" function has been a godsend to me...
Repudiated by samsung spellchecker and Grammerly. Not to mention my poor roofing skills.
Roofing skills !!!
😇
Going on for 3 generations........ if not 4 centuries
Correct. 3/5ths of a person to the 'Southern strategy' to election deniers to sedition.
I never knew that until recently . At the same time white men who were allowed to Vote, lots of them signed with an X.So many couldn’t read or write. Not even their own name.
Fast forward to July 1, 2022 in the 5-way House Primary in Wyoming, the Election Denier leads by 30 points; Liz Cheney tells the voters:"The truth matters".
I think both are true; in the immediate case (and as articulated by LBJ), easily 3 generations as the 4th comes to voting age. In practice, over four centuries, especially when you fold in the second edge of the sword that created America as a dominant country in a short amount of time, that of Indigenous Genocide as it coupled with Black enslavement.
the latter.
I’ve lived. In the South for 63 yrs. It’s still as Racist and has been as it was in 64 .Recently I called about a service I needed. The guy came to review my needs. He then asked if I minded a Black person coming to my house. I did not go with that service. No I don’t mind but I could not believe he asked !
What the service was actually doing was protecting the Black worker. I was asked that question in 2012 when my 88 year old father needed help from caregivers. Knowing him as I did I told the service that we were not going to put someone in a position to be disrespected. My mother was a totally different story.
I was not raised (in NC) to hate blacks, but the ‘superior attitude’ crept in through the cracks and crannies. I played with the young child of the black woman who helped my mama with washing and other chores since she worked her whole adult life in hosiery mills, while tending to her eight children. I didn’t go to school or church with Rosalee, so segregation was alive and well. But my parents respect for Rosie and her hard life must have rubbed off on me at a very young age. BTW, in the assisted living facility where I live, I am witness to a couple of arrogant residents disrespecting the aides and techs on occasion. Racism is often proud, and at the same time, denied. Quite a feat…
Maybe ? But I have had times before that and he was the first ever to ask.All I care about is their skills and a Criminal Background check no matter who you send. I was raised up North.
Black folks ok, racists not!
Get the f^** out of my house?
I knew right off that the better part of what he was charging wasn’t going to them either. He was driving an Audi
TC LBJ, a southerner who became a lukewarm proponent of civil rights in pushing for a moderate civil rights bill under President Ike in 1957, became the most important civil rights president in history (doubling down on Lincoln’s emancipation) in 1964/65.
This former ‘master of the Senate’ took a n unprecedented 66-day Senate filibuster before moving the civil rights bill onward. With this and the 1965 civil rights bill [which have been weakened by recent Supreme Courts] LBJ was a remarkable civil rights hero, while reflecting that this would cost the Democrats the South for a generation.
In fact, racism is a major plank in the current Trump world that is swathed in right-kind-of-whitism.
Keith we were told when Kennedy was killed that the Warren Report would be unsealed in 50 yrs. To date it has not. We have gotten a ‘ Nugget ‘ or 2 in all these yrs past. Why won’t they unseal it ? It will be 60 yrs next yr
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report
Yes, we got the Public Report. But they stated at the time that basically not all could be revealed and at the 50yr mark what was NOT for Public to know would be.It’s sealed under lock and key. George HW Bush was the director of the CIA at the time.
This may be more information:
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2021
If that doesn't address what you were seeking there's a big button with "Have a question about JFK Assassination Records? Ask it on HistoryHub." on the first link I posted.