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GMB's avatar

Richard Sutherland "So, inflation is at its lowest level in years? Normally, this would be great news for an incumbent president seeking re-election. But, not now. Times have changed. Issues that once made a difference don't now. Why?" I blame the media in large part for their distorted coverage of current events. Some ignore the Biden Administration's clear successes while other sources minimize, bury or present on the same level as the republican's craziness. That part of the media deliberately choses a path that presents a picture of a divided country with lots of controversy. Biden's calmer, less exciting approach to rebuilding our economy and status around the world just doesn't get readership, which is all most media cares about. Another reason why HCR's work is so important.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

There are tens of millions of Americans who will never know that "inflation is at its lowest level in years." That's because their source of information is solely from Fox, OAN and Newsmax. They still believe that the election was stolen and that Kari Lake won in Arizona. They believe that all other information sources are fake news. These are "True Believers." They believe what they believe and facts, even if known, would make no difference.

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GMB's avatar

The NYT, WaPo and many other "mainstream" sources are also a problem. Incomplete coverage, false equivalencies and bothsiderism are far too common in their reporting. It isn't just Fox and the rest of them. It takes effort to get a clear, accurate picture of complicated current events. Unfortunately most people just don't have the time.

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Michele's avatar

News on the vomit front: Kari Lake is coming to Salem (OR) to speak to some meeting of wing nuts. Last year we had the Flynn dog and pony show in Keizer. Ain't we lucky???

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Please go as an observer. I understand that she wants to be TFG's VP running mate. It'd be interesting to see how she works a crowd and what their responses are. Of course, the experience may cause you to go into a deep state of depression, so if your the least bit concerned, stay home.

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Michele's avatar

Actually we have a friend who might. She listens to enemy radio every day and has attended some of the nut case meetings. She is very upset about this and I am not sure even she could get through it. There hasn't been anything about it except from a site called Salem Proletariat. Some of them might go to protest.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

It's called reconnaisance. Hsun Tzu, in his "Art of War" in 250 BCE, noted: "Know your enemy and in 100 battles you will win 100 victories." Still, Hsun Tzu didn't say that it would be easy.

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Michele's avatar

This person is heavily involved in politics especially land use here in Oregon. She knows everyone including several people on the R side. She spends most of her time on this as does her husband although I don't think he listens to enemy radio.

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Dave DiDomenico's avatar

Never give in to the Fox news zombies- you've got facts on your side. Keep fighting the good fight.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

It's a real tough slog, Dave. Very tough. But, they can't simply be ignored.

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Christopher D Austin's avatar

I am not a Fox AON or News Max " believer". Hearing that inflation slowed is good news but let's not start patting our self on the back just yet. Inflation has been happening for a long time and until prices start heading back to what they were before covid there is not really much good news. Companies that dominate the market like Tyson Foods, Kellogg Foods... have created record profits lately because of thier ability to control pricing kak no competition have no incentive to lower prices to pre inflation levels. Someone doesn't have to be brainwashed or in an information bubble to be skeptical enough to not feel like celebrating news that inflation has just slowed.

A real false equivalency is saying that people in the lower incomes have mad the most gains on inflation. Someone going from $9 an hour to $18 ( 100% increase) had no buying power to start with and whos job is likely part time is having a harder time dealing with bills than someone with no raise that make $100,000 a year. But news is reporting lower incomes are rising as to meet inflation. Telling people they are doing better while they see themselfs struggling is bad politics and more a tactic of MAGA world employed on the brainwashed. Hold the champaign for real world results, then people will get on board. Propaganda is bad politics to an informed electorate..save the BS for Trumpito.

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Joshua Gillelan's avatar

"[U]ntil prices start heading back to what they were before covid there is not really much good news." Oh, please. That is an absurd -- and DANGEROUS -- expectation. You're talking about 10%+ DEFLATION to get back to prices from 3 years ago. Do you not understand the dangers of deflation? Or are you a big-banker who alone would profit by it? How much fun was it for your grandparents from 1930 to '33? Looking forward to paying the interest on the $10K/person national debt in dollars worth more, and harder to come by, than they are now?"[U]ntil prices start heading back to what they were before covid there is not really much good news." Oh, please. That is an absurd -- and DANGEROUS -- expectation. You're talking about 10%+ DEFLATION. How much did your (great-?)grandparents enjoy that from 1930-33? Do you look forward to paying the interest on the $10K-per-person national debt in more valuable, harder-to-come-by dollars than when "we" borrowed them? You "real false equivalency" assertion looks like innumerate nonsense to me.

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Jim Holley's avatar

Right. You don't want to start a deflationary trend because you can't control it. You can control inflation to some extent with interest rates, but there is little you can do when inflation goes negative and the interest rate crashes to zero. Which basically is what happened to Japan in the 90s, and I'll admit here that I don't know much about how they tackled the problem. But I do know that their economy has had problems with deflation ever since.

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And I'll add that, according to Paul Krugman, wages are going up faster than inflation, which is slowing down considerably, and we still don't seem to be headed for a recession. Which seems strange, but go figure. I mean literally. Anyone who wants to figure that out, God bless you.

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becky estill's avatar

The answer is in Richard's first paragraph: "when beliefs are based on feelings, facts don't matter." So the media focuses on feelings. They've got bills to pay.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

When I say tough, I mean really, really tough. Take Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D., for example. He headed up the Human Genome Project. If anyone understands DNA, how all living things share the same DNA (plants, animals, insects) it's because it came from a single Super Great Grandmother 3.5 billion years ago. And that modern humans emerged only 300,000 years ago and that we share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. So, when did we get a soul? And, Francis Collins is a fundamentalist Christian. The takeaway? When beliefs are based on feelings, facts don't matter. John Stuart Mill was/is right.

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Jim Holley's avatar

See "Thinking Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman. We have two brains. One is fast to react and slow to learn, and the other is fast to learn and slow to react. The first one is sometimes called the lizard brain. It's where emotions are initiated. The lizard brain looks pretty much like the MAGA brain. Just sayin'.

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