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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Liz, I appreciate you mentioning your son because I believe he represents the views of much of his generation. I also not just believe but know that our generation cannot get Biden re-elected in 24 without a robust turnout by Millennials and Gen-Zs. Accordingly, I expect if we mostly continue merely to converse among ourselves as to how we perceive Biden’s accomplishments both at home and abroad, we do so at our peril.

I imagine it’s worth noting my mind lately repeatedly returning to 1968 and to Humphrey barely losing to Nixon for a host of reasons, one of them being that young eligible voters, many of whom had worked for Eugene McCarthy or Bobby Kennedy, largely had stayed home.

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Martha Woods's avatar

It really bothers me that so many people think that if their primary candidate isn't chosen they can't be bothered to vote. They act like it's a horse race. Their horse lost and they throw their ticket to the ground and go home. It is why the Republicans are successful in beating better, wiser opponents because they smear them as evil threats to Christianity (Hillary) or soft and suspect (Gore/Kerry). I would never have voted until Obama, if that had been my response (still sad about Bill Bradley, not so sad about Perot -LoL).

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Martha, While I share your perspective, in my view, the stakes are too great not to do whatever it takes to give young voters, in particular, reason to want to cast their vote up and down the ballot.

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Martha Woods's avatar

I'm not sure what you mean. I was trying to say, if they think their vote in the primaries is important how can they reconcile not voting in the general? That is all. It's illogical. They act like they are at a race track, where if your horse loses it is probably best to call it quits and go home. Voting for president or presidential candidates is not a horse race.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Martha, While I don’t subscribe to the logic of one who would vote in a primary but not in the general if her or his candidate doesn’t win the nomination, my point was to say we must do everything possible to give everyone reason not to sit out the general.

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Martha Woods's avatar

Climate change effects us all. If Biden doesn't win the rest - women's rights, the economy, democracy won't matter. Republicans won't stop being stupid so let's not leave climate change to them to fix, it will be the pandemic all over again followed by a Jan 6 for survival....re that youthful Kennedy clown.

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Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Martha, The point is not to convince me, but to develop a strategy to try and ensure the highest youth turnout ever.

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Mitchell Pressman's avatar

I'm not convinced that Republicans win because they go on to vote in the general election, certainly not at the national level. Republicans have won the popular vote, what, twice in the past nine presidential elections? That's why they're so focused on rolling back voting rights.

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